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2016-06-22T04:28:40Z beach: Good morning everyone!
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2016-06-22T04:30:09Z loke: hello beach!
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2016-06-22T04:34:15Z beach: Designing and implementing a compiler for Common Lisp is already not easy.  Designing one that is implementation independent is an order of magnitude harder.
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2016-06-22T04:48:01Z alchmzt: if i want to import multiple select symbols from a package into cl-user session, is there an alternate to multiple (import 'package::symbol) statements?
2016-06-22T04:49:01Z alchmzt: i know i can use (use-package :package) but i dont want to import all symbols, only a few commonly used ones
2016-06-22T04:49:56Z loke: (mapc #'inport '(sym1 sym2 sym3))
2016-06-22T04:50:06Z beach: clhs import
2016-06-22T04:50:06Z specbot: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_import.htm
2016-06-22T04:50:08Z alchmzt: perfecto
2016-06-22T04:50:22Z beach: alchmzt: IMPORT already accepts a list of symbols.
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2016-06-22T04:50:39Z beach: "symbols---a designator for a list of symbols."
2016-06-22T04:50:41Z loke: beach: Oops. Perhaps I should have checked docs first :-)
2016-06-22T04:51:05Z alchmzt: oh, let me try it out
2016-06-22T04:51:11Z alchmzt: i only saw singular examples
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2016-06-22T04:53:10Z beach: alchmzt: I recommend you use the :IMPORT-FROM option of DEFPACKAGE instead, though, so that you have a declarative definition of your package.
2016-06-22T04:53:56Z alchmzt: i know how to do it within a package
2016-06-22T04:54:09Z alchmzt: this is more for repl usage
2016-06-22T04:54:16Z beach: I see.
2016-06-22T04:54:22Z alchmzt: since i want a few common functions from different packages
2016-06-22T04:54:37Z alchmzt: and i dont want to type out long packageabcd:func1 packageakldjfasfd:func2 each time
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2016-06-22T05:06:38Z alchmzt: (import '(package:func1 package:func2)) does the trick
2016-06-22T05:06:43Z alchmzt: neeto
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2016-06-22T05:07:09Z alchmzt: thanks beach, loke
2016-06-22T05:07:14Z beach: Anytime!
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2016-06-22T05:15:25Z beach: alchmzt: [warning: nitpick alert] In Common Lisp a (compound) form is called a "statement" only if it is inside a TAGBODY.
2016-06-22T05:16:12Z alchmzt: i meant having to write (import ...) (import ...) ... would that not classify as multiple statements?
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2016-06-22T05:16:30Z jasom: alchmzt: that's multiple forms, not multiple statements
2016-06-22T05:16:39Z beach: They are not called "statements" in Common Lisp.  They are called "forms".
2016-06-22T05:17:04Z alchmzt: got it
2016-06-22T05:17:12Z alchmzt: potato potato
2016-06-22T05:20:35Z jasom: speaking of tagbody, what happens if an atom in a tagbody has a symbol-macro associated with it?
2016-06-22T05:21:00Z beach: The compiler first determines whether it is a tag or a statement.
2016-06-22T05:21:17Z jasom: beach: so it's not expanded?  That was my reading too.
2016-06-22T05:21:18Z beach: Only statements are macroexpanded.
2016-06-22T05:21:39Z beach: I think your reading is fine.
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2016-06-22T06:37:22Z jackdaniel: beach: cleavir-ast-to-source doesn't load because 'Symbol "SPECIAL-AST" not found in the CLEAVIR-AST package.'
2016-06-22T06:38:14Z beach: That system has not been used very much, so it might have bitrotted.
2016-06-22T06:38:21Z jackdaniel: OK
2016-06-22T06:38:29Z beach: I think there used to be such an AST, but it was removed.
2016-06-22T06:38:46Z beach: You can remove the reference to it.  No code will suffer.
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2016-06-22T06:40:28Z jackdaniel: should I fix also fixnum.lisp ? it has references to (for example) fixnum-+-ast, while cleavir-ast has fixnum-add-ast etc
2016-06-22T06:40:49Z beach: Yes, those names have changed, so that code needs to be updated.
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