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2015-05-13T01:23:11Z katco: what is the preferred CL lib for normalizing io/path operations?
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2015-05-13T01:27:50Z defaultxr: katco: cl-fad?
2015-05-13T01:28:04Z katco: defaultxr: ok, ty
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2015-05-13T02:27:34Z XachX: katco: what kind of operations?
2015-05-13T02:27:53Z katco: XachX: well specifically i was wanting to walk files in a directory
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2015-05-13T02:28:26Z katco: XachX: and i read in Graham's PCL that this had issues between implementations
2015-05-13T02:29:16Z XachX: Seibel wrote PCL. Graham wrote ANSI Common Lisp
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2015-05-13T02:30:15Z katco: oops, yes Seibel
2015-05-13T02:30:47Z emaczen`: Where do you guys write your compiled files to? Is there a setting I can use across lisp implementations?
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2015-05-13T02:31:21Z emaczen`: I'm just a little sick of seeing .fasl or .abcl polluting my directories, it would be nice to conglomerate them all in a directory
2015-05-13T02:32:21Z XachX: emaczen`: asdf normally puts them in a central directory structure
2015-05-13T02:33:00Z pjb: therefore: use asdf.
2015-05-13T02:33:17Z emaczen`: XachX: I could have swore that I was using asdf...
2015-05-13T02:33:29Z emaczen`: I'm using .asd files
2015-05-13T02:33:43Z XachX: Do you compile with c-c c-k a lot?
2015-05-13T02:33:56Z emaczen`: XachX ye
2015-05-13T02:33:59Z emaczen`: yes
2015-05-13T02:34:19Z XachX: Why?
2015-05-13T02:34:42Z emaczen`: What should I do instead?
2015-05-13T02:34:56Z XachX: I use c-c c-c a thousand times more often.
2015-05-13T02:36:17Z pjb: I tend to use C-c C-l instead.
2015-05-13T02:36:18Z emaczen`: XachX: I had not heard of C-c C-c a -- it appears to run ASDF compile all?
2015-05-13T02:36:47Z XachX: emaczen`: no. It compiles the form at point.
2015-05-13T02:36:51Z XachX: And loads.
2015-05-13T02:37:22Z emaczen`: Oh, I though "a" was part of the command... lol
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2015-05-13T02:38:19Z XachX: ~/.cache/common-lisp
2015-05-13T02:38:56Z emaczen`: XachX: What do you do when you have macros, don't you have to recompile code that uses when macros when you change the macro
2015-05-13T02:39:15Z pjb: yes
2015-05-13T02:39:47Z pjb: But those dependencies are embedded in the asd files, so that just reloading the system with asdf will make it recompile what's needed to be recompiled.
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2015-05-13T02:40:23Z XachX: emaczen`: I don't use macros often. When I do they are often call-with-foo style so I just change the function underneath.
2015-05-13T02:41:04Z XachX: And in the rare cases where I need to recompile a lot, I don't mind the fasl dirt much.
2015-05-13T02:41:39Z emaczen`: pjb: does "slime-load-file" use ASDF?
2015-05-13T02:41:44Z pjb: yes
2015-05-13T02:41:50Z pjb: err, no.
2015-05-13T02:42:09Z pjb: But it won't call compile, therefore it won't generate a local fasl file.
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2015-05-13T02:46:36Z beach: Good morning everyone!
2015-05-13T02:46:46Z emaczen`: morning beach
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2015-05-13T02:57:54Z emaczen`: What do we use (load "file.lisp") for?
2015-05-13T02:58:12Z emaczen`: I mostly use (require :package-name)
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2015-05-13T03:03:33Z beach: emaczen`: You might use it before you have written an ASDF system definition for your software, or for code that can fit in a small file.
2015-05-13T03:03:54Z emaczen`: so prototyping mostly?
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2015-05-13T03:05:47Z beach: I don't use it so much myself.  We program differently now that we have ASDF and SLIME, so it is not needed directly as much as before.
2015-05-13T03:08:01Z beach: When I start writing some software that I know will take more than one file, I immediately write an ASDF definition and a package definition in packages.lisp, and from then on I use ASDF.
2015-05-13T03:11:23Z emaczen`: Yeah, that is what I have been doing. pjb: mentioned slime-load-file for when you change a macro and need to re-evaluate any other code that uses those macros
2015-05-13T03:11:26Z beach: It shouldn't come as a surprise to you that some functions included in a standard from the 1990s become less useful as we acquire better tools, and as computers get faster.
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2015-05-13T03:13:11Z beach: Today, it doesn't cost very much to recompile the entire file, and given Common Lisp systems with compilers that give decent warnings such as SBCL, it is often best to compile all code.
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2015-05-13T03:15:23Z emaczen`: Yeah, I had been using C-c C-k a lot and was tired of my directories being polluted with .fasls and the solution proposed was to either use C-c C-c on individual forms or C-c C-l
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2015-05-13T03:17:32Z beach: Yes, I see.  Well, in cases like that, I would just write the ASDF system definition and re-build the system, and use C-c C-c on individual definitions for incremental changes.
2015-05-13T03:19:32Z emaczen`: If you use C-c C-c on a macro then you have to manually track down all the functions that use the macro and C-c C-c them too right?
2015-05-13T03:20:07Z beach: I wouldn't do that.  If I change one of my macros, I re-build the system.
2015-05-13T03:20:28Z beach: If the ASDF system definition was written correctly, then relevant functions will be recompiled.
2015-05-13T03:24:44Z drmeister: Hi beach
2015-05-13T03:24:49Z drmeister: Hello everyone
2015-05-13T03:24:49Z pjb: emaczen`: we use load because require with a single argument is not conforming, and (require :x "x.lisp") is more to type than (load "x.lisp"), and also, (require  :x "x.lisp") won't reload the file.  Therefore, during developement, you will keep using load, or with slime, C-x C-l
2015-05-13T03:25:02Z beach: Hello drmeister.
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2015-05-13T03:27:19Z drmeister: I know I've been going on about this for days but it amazes me how astray certain C++ syntax has led me.    x.as<Fixnum_O>()   has been a huge pain in my backside.    I'm switching them all to   As<Fixnum_sp>(x).      Had I chosen the second syntax from the beginning then switching "x" from being stored on the heap to being an immediate would have been a
2015-05-13T03:27:19Z drmeister: trivial change to the "As" template function.
2015-05-13T03:27:52Z drmeister: Since I chose the first, more "natural" C++ syntax, I've had a huge headache converting them because you can't dereference an immediate.
2015-05-13T03:28:16Z beach: drmeister: No need to kick yourself.  It's part of the learning process.
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2015-05-13T03:29:37Z drmeister: Thanks.
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2015-05-13T03:30:07Z beach: drmeister: Now, if you had been led down this path by taking a CS program at some university, you would have the right to be very angry at that university. :)
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2015-05-13T03:30:43Z drmeister: I'd throw my degree back in their faces.
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2015-05-13T03:31:51Z drmeister: Well, maybe not.  But it must be gut wrenching trying to decide what languages to teach students and what to teach them about them.
2015-05-13T03:32:02Z beach: drmeister: I was very lucky.  The (only at the time) professor of CS at the university I attended was Erik Sandewall.
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2015-05-13T03:32:36Z beach: drmeister: What makes it hard in some places is the pressure from industry to teach what industry (thinks it) needs.
2015-05-13T03:32:46Z drmeister: "Here's C++, it's got all this fancy stuff... Don't use it unless you want trouble".
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2015-05-13T03:34:38Z Bike: well, it's a CS department, so they don't teach you more than a fifth of any language anyway.
2015-05-13T03:34:42Z beach: drmeister: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Sandewall
2015-05-13T03:35:49Z drmeister: Did he first describe the upward/downward funargs problem?
2015-05-13T03:36:05Z beach: drmeister: Not sure he was first.
2015-05-13T03:36:18Z pjb: beach: So your McCarthy number is 2?
2015-05-13T03:36:31Z beach: Bike: That's another problem, yes.  I have long thought that a typical 5-year MS program is CS is at least 2 years to short to teach them enough to be functional in industry.
2015-05-13T03:37:01Z Bike: of course, i don't know what industry is like, and my personal experience is skewed given that i will apparently be working with delphi 5 this summer.
2015-05-13T03:37:09Z beach: pjb: Possiby.  I haven't thought much about that.
2015-05-13T03:37:53Z Bike: i dunno if there's much point in teaching a language in depth. it's boring. should just learn how to read manuals instead.
2015-05-13T03:37:59Z beach: Bike: The computing industry is controlled by ignorant (with respect to computing) fools (with respect to productivity).
2015-05-13T03:38:14Z beach: Bike: I fully agree.
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2015-05-13T03:40:48Z emaczen`: beach: Who/what organizations are in control?
2015-05-13T03:41:04Z drmeister: When emacs is spewing out thousands of lines (slowly) to a *shell* - is there anyway to make it stop?   Control-C is ignored.
2015-05-13T03:41:27Z pjb: kill the buffer.
2015-05-13T03:41:29Z beach: emaczen`: I am talking about individuals at each company; individuals without sufficient knowledge of the domain.
2015-05-13T03:41:56Z pjb: drmeister: M-x comint-interrupt-subjob RET is the strongest, but it may be too late.
2015-05-13T03:42:10Z pjb: It's usually bound to C-c C-c
2015-05-13T03:42:28Z pjb: drmeister: ^  so C-c alone is not sufficient.
2015-05-13T03:42:35Z emaczen`: drmeister: sometimes executing C-c C-c a bunch of times in a row works for me, otherwise I kill the buffer
2015-05-13T03:42:47Z beach: Bike: The two additional years would not be used to teach languages in depth, but to teach software engineering, data structures, domain-specific languages, compilation (needed to understand how to write efficient programs), etc, etc.
2015-05-13T03:43:13Z pjb: If the output has already been sent by the program, killing it will be useless. There's some delay between output and integrating it into the *shell* buffer.
2015-05-13T03:43:20Z drmeister: pjb emaczen`: Thanks - I'll kill the buffer.
2015-05-13T03:43:26Z Bike: the i don't think i actually know any hardcore optimization types who were formally educated in it
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2015-05-13T03:43:54Z beach: Bike: Because there are almost no teaching programs for it.
2015-05-13T03:43:56Z pjb: drmeister: remember, you can use redirections when expecting a lot of output, and tail or tail -f to monitor it.
2015-05-13T03:44:13Z Bike: a lot of it seems to be compiler wrasslin', which, again, boring
2015-05-13T03:44:41Z pjb: Some systems used spool files for output systematically.  But unix being simple simply outputs output to the terminal…
2015-05-13T03:47:02Z drmeister: pjb: I would pipe but I'm inside of lldb (debugger).
2015-05-13T03:47:26Z drmeister: I asked for a backtrace and I discovered I was in an infinite loop.
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2015-05-13T04:01:46Z emaczen`: So, dired-omit-mode is better for just hiding your .fasl files and emacs autosave files as well
2015-05-13T04:02:24Z Petit_Dejeuner: beach, You forgot angry birds and web dev.
2015-05-13T04:02:43Z pillton: emaczen`: dired-omit-mode is great. So is git's global ignore file setting.
2015-05-13T04:03:35Z pillton: emaczen`: Emacs directory variables are also useful for dired-omit-mode.
2015-05-13T04:07:25Z emaczen`: Yeah, I'm so relieved right now! Sometimes I use ABCL as well as SBCL and combined with backups and autosaves my dired buffer was very difficult to navigate.
2015-05-13T04:12:41Z beach: Petit_Dejeuner: How so?
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2015-05-13T04:13:42Z Petit_Dejeuner: Just a joke about cs programs.
2015-05-13T04:13:49Z Petit_Dejeuner: courses*
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2015-05-13T04:28:30Z pjb: s/d//
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2015-05-13T05:55:49Z emaczen: ABCL isn't finding my ASD files but SBCL does -- what is going on?
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2015-05-13T05:57:32Z pjb: emaczen: you've not configured asdf the same in both implementations.
2015-05-13T05:58:04Z pjb: emaczen: What I do: I put my common Common Lisp configurations in ~/rc/common.lisp, and load this file from the various implementations rc files.
2015-05-13T06:00:11Z emaczen: I don't remember doing anything in particular for SBCL, my .sbclrc file just contains code added from (ql:add-to-init-file)
2015-05-13T06:00:53Z pjb: and your ~/.abclrc file?
2015-05-13T06:01:17Z emaczen: Same as .sbclrc
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2015-05-13T06:01:35Z pjb: and your ~/.clisprc.lisp file and your ~/ccl-init.lisp etc?
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2015-05-13T06:03:45Z emaczen: I don't have either clisprc.lisp or ccl-init.lisp
2015-05-13T06:05:02Z emaczen: ECL found my package but it failed on compilation for some reason
2015-05-13T06:05:05Z pjb: Check and compare asdf:*central-registry* and asdf:*system-definition-search-functions*
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2015-05-13T06:07:59Z emaczen: so ABCL even fails when trying to load the .abclrc
2015-05-13T06:10:08Z emaczen: asdf:*central-registry* is nil
2015-05-13T06:10:31Z emaczen: (ASDF/PACKAGE-SYSTEM:SYSDEF-PACKAGE-SYSTEM-SEARCH ASDF/FIND-SYSTEM:SYSDEF-CENTRAL-REGISTRY-SEARCH ASDF/FIND-SYSTEM:SYSDEF-SOURCE-REGISTRY-SEARCH)
2015-05-13T06:13:00Z emaczen: ^^^ that's asdf:*system-definition-search-functions*
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2015-05-13T06:16:09Z pjb: emaczen: then correct your bug in your .abclrc file.
2015-05-13T06:16:38Z pjb: (load #P"~/.abclrc" :verbose t :print t) can help
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2015-05-13T07:38:58Z elderK: Hey guys!
2015-05-13T07:39:27Z elderK: I was wondering how you go about creating a system.
2015-05-13T07:39:37Z elderK: Do you just link your new system into your ASDF linkfarm?
2015-05-13T07:39:43Z elderK: Or add the path to it via CL_SOURCE_REGISTRY or something?
2015-05-13T07:39:48Z elderK: And just hack away, reloading as necessary?
2015-05-13T07:39:56Z elderK: :) Am I missing something to how to do this right? :)
2015-05-13T07:44:52Z pjb: there is no right, you can do it however you want.  This is why lisp is nice, it's like sex.
2015-05-13T07:45:37Z elderK: :) Well, how do YOU guys do it?
2015-05-13T07:45:44Z elderK: As the way I'm doing it feels a little cumbersome.
2015-05-13T07:46:05Z pjb: creating a system is creating a asd file.  So I just do that.
2015-05-13T07:46:33Z elderK: And then you just require it or?
2015-05-13T07:46:35Z pjb: While developping, I may add the source directory to asdf:*central-registry*.  Later, it will be taken into account by quicklisp.
2015-05-13T07:46:47Z pjb: elderK: (ql:quickload :my-system)
2015-05-13T07:47:12Z elderK: And that just reloads your system and all its files?
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2015-05-13T07:47:22Z elderK: :) I'm just doing some experimenting with CFFI and such
2015-05-13T07:47:27Z pjb: and its dependencies yes.
2015-05-13T07:47:40Z elderK: and I was wondering if once you create some binding - and load the system - you can just call the functions...
2015-05-13T07:47:42Z elderK: like
2015-05-13T07:47:50Z elderK: say I bind the socket functions (SBCL has them but hey_
2015-05-13T07:47:56Z elderK: then I can just go (socket ...)
2015-05-13T07:47:58Z pjb: of course.
2015-05-13T07:48:01Z elderK: and boom, I have a socket? Interactively? :D
2015-05-13T07:48:04Z akkad: anyway to optimize this more? (logior (ldb (byte 32 0) (ash a s)) (ash a (- s 32))))
2015-05-13T07:48:04Z elderK: Awesome :)
2015-05-13T07:48:04Z akkad:  
2015-05-13T07:48:15Z pjb: elderK: remember the * ** and *** variables in the REPL.
2015-05-13T07:48:51Z elderK: I'll have to go read what they do :)
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2015-05-13T07:51:28Z elderK: Cool, thanks pjb
2015-05-13T07:51:36Z elderK: +, ++, +++ = last forms.
2015-05-13T07:51:41Z elderK: * etc, last values :)
2015-05-13T07:51:45Z elderK: well, results.
2015-05-13T07:51:47Z elderK: :D
2015-05-13T07:52:16Z pjb: use / // and /// for last values
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2015-05-13T08:02:14Z sinepreggin: if you talk with lisp does that mean you're gay?
2015-05-13T08:02:33Z H4ns: yes.
2015-05-13T08:02:35Z H4ns: err, no.
2015-05-13T08:02:43Z H4ns: or does it?
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2015-05-13T08:06:09Z pjb: If you're confusing lisp and gay, it means you're an idiot.
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2015-05-13T08:07:09Z Shinmera: elderK: I symlink my projects folder into ~/quicklisp/local-projects and invoke ql:register-local-projects when I add a new .asd file.
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2015-05-13T08:38:13Z akkad: Xach: to answer your question about LW int64 https://gist.github.com/333287e790fb5d7da028
2015-05-13T08:38:14Z loke: Having had to write some clojurescript recently I'm getting tempeed to implement clojure in CL (as a reader+compatibilitity libraries). Please talk me out of it.
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2015-05-13T08:39:13Z Shinmera: loke: Well, Clojure started out on top of CL, so most of that might already be available somewhere in the clojure repo history.
2015-05-13T08:39:55Z Shinmera: What compels you to want to do that either way though?
2015-05-13T08:40:17Z loke: I don't know. “Beacuse it‘s there” I guess?
2015-05-13T08:40:32Z akkad: clojure started on CL?
2015-05-13T08:40:40Z akkad: thought it was CLR/.net
2015-05-13T08:40:46Z Shinmera: loke: Sounds to me like you should find an interesting project to work on instead.
2015-05-13T08:40:56Z loke: Shinmera: I already have a bunch of them :-)
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2015-05-13T08:41:11Z Shinmera: Well then, the path should be clear, should it not?
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2015-05-13T08:41:26Z loke: Thank you for talking me out of it. You’ve succeeded. And I’m grateful.
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2015-05-13T08:41:46Z akkad: .oO(like vim compat on emacs)
2015-05-13T08:42:26Z loke: akkad: That makes more sense thogh, since I'd have supposed that viper was written by a vi fan, who wants to use Emacs
2015-05-13T08:42:43Z loke: I'm a Common Lisp fan who wants to use Common Lisp (and I don't like clojure that much)
2015-05-13T08:43:07Z Shinmera: Care to share some details on those interesting projects of yours?
2015-05-13T08:43:12Z loke: Although it's nicer than Javascript, which is good enoughf or what I'm doing (I'm writing clojurescript for targetting browsers)
2015-05-13T08:43:27Z loke: Shinmera: Well, two different games for a start.
2015-05-13T08:44:35Z Shinmera: Oh?
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2015-05-13T08:48:04Z akkad: use clojure at work. soo slow to build uber jars
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2015-05-13T09:00:22Z loke: akkad: überjars are thankfully not used in clocjurescript
2015-05-13T09:00:31Z loke: For the server side, we're using Common Lisp.
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2015-05-13T09:07:24Z akkad: loke :P
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2015-05-13T09:07:43Z akkad: still need the jvm to emit cljs though
2015-05-13T09:08:22Z loke: True, but during development it's bearable.
2015-05-13T09:09:14Z akkad: for me, it's the iteration cycle that is slow
2015-05-13T09:09:42Z loke: Why? You're building überjars every time you test?
2015-05-13T09:10:12Z H4ns: akkad: probably a topic for #clojure, but you need to improve your development environment.  things work very smoothly for me in terms of turnaround.
2015-05-13T09:10:20Z H4ns: akkad: (clojure server & client side)
2015-05-13T09:10:33Z H4ns: most definitely a #clojure topic, sorry.
2015-05-13T09:11:09Z akkad: so are there anyways to save a repl session to an image that persists history etc?
2015-05-13T09:11:15Z loke: I would like a way to generate/parse CL sexps from clojure. Now I'm going through JSON when communicating with clojure from CL
2015-05-13T09:11:21Z loke: Is there such a library?
2015-05-13T09:11:43Z loke: akkad: SLIME saves the session history
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2015-05-13T09:12:02Z akkad: loke thanks. I will check that out
2015-05-13T09:12:53Z Shinmera: There's also DRIBBLE if you want a record of what you did, but I don't know how well that works on implementations.
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2015-05-13T09:16:45Z schjetne: I wonder if there's a nice, general UTF-8 character I can use when invoking the USE-VALUE restart when parsing unreliable UTF-8 with Flexi-Streams
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2015-05-13T09:19:50Z schjetne: Of course, #\REPLACEMENT_CHARACTER
2015-05-13T09:20:15Z schjetne: Sometimes just asking the question out loud makes the answer obvious
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2015-05-13T09:22:01Z loke: schjetne: Yes, that's what you're supposed to use. However, Unicode does state that the general answer to how to deal with incorrect UTF-8 is to fail with an error.
2015-05-13T09:22:22Z loke: You should think twice to ensure that you really want to be able to process invalid UTF-8
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2015-05-13T09:26:00Z schjetne: I'm processing log files, and I get various yahoos inputing nonsense as their user agent trying to break things
2015-05-13T09:26:10Z loke: Ah, I see
2015-05-13T09:26:31Z schjetne: Also I accidentally outputted nonsense from my application, so I'm just as guilty
2015-05-13T09:26:46Z schjetne: Forgot an :external-format :utf-8 in one location
2015-05-13T09:27:01Z loke: schjetne: Sounds to me you want to read TR36
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2015-05-13T09:28:00Z schjetne: loke: I should definitely read that, thanks
2015-05-13T09:28:45Z loke: http://unicode.org/reports/tr36/
2015-05-13T09:29:14Z schjetne: I wonder how Erik Naggum's proposed stateful system would have compared
2015-05-13T09:29:24Z loke: Stateful system?
2015-05-13T09:31:22Z akkad: even removing all the optimizations for sbcl from ironclad, it only increases time by a couple of seconds.
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2015-05-13T09:35:27Z schjetne: Referring to the ISO 10646 first draft
2015-05-13T09:36:06Z loke: schjetne: He was quite intelligent, but in this case he was clearly and outrageously wrong
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2015-05-13T09:44:53Z White_Flame: didn't the plan 9 project invent UTF-8 encoding?
2015-05-13T09:44:58Z loke: They did
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2015-05-13T09:46:05Z loke: It seems to me that when he wrote that message, he wasn't aware of _any_ of those benefits.
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2015-05-13T10:23:49Z jackdaniel: hlavaty: afaik they lack somebody who could organize them (not people)
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2015-05-13T10:38:49Z loke: :-(
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2015-05-13T11:00:51Z splittist: loke: you never know until you try. Lispers/schemers lurk in all sorts of strange places. Surely some among the 200 singagooglers (sic) would be interested...
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2015-05-13T11:01:29Z loke: and finance and legal and stuff like that
2015-05-13T11:01:31Z loke: No technical staff
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2015-05-13T11:06:42Z splittist: Generations of SC433 students at NTU at least know Lisp exists. Some will have been bitten by the bug.
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2015-05-13T13:34:29Z Cthulhux: (hi.)
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2015-05-13T13:55:01Z foom: schjetne: That email is pretty funny. My favorite part is "UTF-16 can be processed faster than ISO 8859-1 on most modern computers because the memory access is simpler with 16-bit units than with 8-bit units.  odd addresses are not free."
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2015-05-13T13:57:47Z foom: Good thing SBCL only ever stores characters on addresses which are a multiple of 4! That must be why it's super fast
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2015-05-13T13:59:58Z Xach: Is it slow because of size or slow because of conversion cost?
2015-05-13T14:01:50Z Xach: "Can't it be both?"
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2015-05-13T14:02:34Z foom: it's faster when you use more memory
2015-05-13T14:03:04Z ggole: Clearly we should push for using only prime addresses
2015-05-13T14:05:31Z p_l: foom: funnily enough, afaik on Nehalem and descendants the odd addresses are quite free ;)
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2015-05-13T14:11:18Z otwieracz: Hey.
2015-05-13T14:11:24Z Cthulhux: sooo, as someone who intends to start with common lisp: SBCL or CCL?
2015-05-13T14:11:28Z otwieracz: What interface to MySQL you recommend?
2015-05-13T14:11:40Z otwieracz: Is there anything what will let me not to touch SQL syntax?
2015-05-13T14:11:44Z otwieracz: (ORM-like?)
2015-05-13T14:11:49Z Xach: Cthulhux: both are great.
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2015-05-13T14:12:03Z Cthulhux: Xach: :|
2015-05-13T14:12:05Z Xach: Cthulhux: SBCL is more popular
2015-05-13T14:12:12Z Xach: Cthulhux: CCL has a faster compiler
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2015-05-13T14:12:27Z foom: And SBCL has faster compiled code.
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2015-05-13T14:12:54Z SAL9000: so, host CCL on SBCL, everyone wins?
2015-05-13T14:12:59Z Cthulhux: hm, compile times are not quite relevant IMO. so if that's the only major difference, thanks :)
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2015-05-13T14:13:17Z foom: If you want to pay someone for support, CCL has a company which is setup to do that for you.
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2015-05-13T14:15:01Z Xach: Cthulhux: compile times importance is not a matter of opinion, but of context
2015-05-13T14:15:11Z Shinmera: Cthulhux: The differences will become more relevant later. Just for starting out, it won't matter for a long time.
2015-05-13T14:16:07Z Cthulhux: i see, thanks :)
2015-05-13T14:16:43Z Cthulhux: is there something like "cl for php developers"?
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2015-05-13T14:17:06Z Shinmera: There's several great books that provide an introduction to CL.
2015-05-13T14:17:19Z Shinmera: Nothing as specific as that though.
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2015-05-13T14:17:38Z Cthulhux: :(
2015-05-13T14:17:57Z Shinmera: minion: tell Cthulhux about PCL
2015-05-13T14:17:58Z minion: Cthulhux: please look at PCL: pcl-book: "Practical Common Lisp", an introduction to Common Lisp by Peter Seibel, available at http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ and in dead-tree form from Apress (as of 11 April 2005).
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2015-05-13T14:18:36Z Xach: Cthulhux: i'd recommend not thinking about PHP (or any other language) while learning Lisp (or any other language)
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2015-05-13T14:19:18Z jdz: Cthulhux: also, the output if SBCL's disassembler is closer to the assembly i've learned (8086/80286) than that of CCL's
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2015-05-13T14:22:06Z Cthulhux: ewww, dead-tree form ... :-)
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2015-05-13T14:22:28Z Cthulhux: Xach: it's not about "this php code looks like this in lisp", more like "the differences in approach"
2015-05-13T14:22:46Z Xach: I don't think that's a fruitful path to understanding.
2015-05-13T14:23:14Z Shinmera: I did PHP before Lisp and I agree with Xach.
2015-05-13T14:24:21Z Cthulhux: hm, ok
2015-05-13T14:24:50Z Cthulhux: learning python was easy with PHP as a background. looks like i'll have to learn a pretty lot
2015-05-13T14:24:52Z Cthulhux: :)
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2015-05-13T14:27:26Z Shinmera: Shedding your preconceptions is a good strategy because it keeps you away from making false presumptions and thus running into nasty surprises.
2015-05-13T14:27:43Z Xach: it's pretty hard to do, though!
2015-05-13T14:27:45Z Shinmera: This isn't something particular to Lisp, just a general thing.
2015-05-13T14:27:56Z oleo: jep :)
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2015-05-13T14:31:50Z Cymew: Now I'm suddenly tempted to disassemble something on ccl just to see how it looks
2015-05-13T14:33:32Z Cthulhux: with brackets? ;o)
2015-05-13T14:33:55Z jdz: parenthesis!
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2015-05-13T14:53:12Z sin`: hello
2015-05-13T14:54:17Z sin`: i use "load-theme" to choose the solarized theme, is there any way to choose solarized-dark
2015-05-13T14:54:40Z Cymew: sin`: I think you want to ask #emacs
2015-05-13T14:55:20Z sin`: oh, sorry for that
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2015-05-13T15:25:50Z Cymew: ...and now I have an emacs issue, that's only about slime/cl.
2015-05-13T15:26:47Z Cymew: Anyone know what kind of mode magic it is that makes typing ; in a slime buffer indent like crazy? Or is that a question for #emacs as well?
2015-05-13T15:28:27Z Oladon: Cymew: What do you mean by "indent like crazy"? And are you talking about the repl?
2015-05-13T15:29:10Z Shinmera: Single-semicolon comments are indented to the right, rather than being on the same column as the current block.
2015-05-13T15:29:31Z Cymew: Yes, that's it
2015-05-13T15:29:41Z Cymew: Is there a way to change that?
2015-05-13T15:29:46Z Shinmera: Why do you want to?
2015-05-13T15:29:53Z Oladon: Ah, gotcha.
2015-05-13T15:30:11Z Shinmera: Just use two semicolons for block comments like everyone else
2015-05-13T15:30:42Z Cymew: I sometimes indent a line, recompile, test and rubs out that ; and it feels annoying to get it back to the old alignment.
2015-05-13T15:30:50Z Cymew: I guess I should just use ;; instead
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2015-05-13T15:33:28Z Cymew: Oladon: "crazy" equals 40 spaces, just for future reference. ;)
2015-05-13T15:33:52Z Oladon: Cymew: Heh, thanks -- I don't speak Cymewese :)
2015-05-13T15:34:12Z Cymew: I'm not sure what I speak, frankly...
2015-05-13T15:34:23Z Oladon: (Not to be confused with Siamese, which I also don't speak much of)
2015-05-13T15:34:29Z Cymew: :)
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2015-05-13T17:20:24Z jasom: failproofshark: hi
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2015-05-13T17:29:57Z failproofshark: how goes it jasom ?
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2015-05-13T17:44:17Z jasom: failproofshark: not bad; any lisp questions today?
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2015-05-13T17:54:19Z failproofshark: jasom: not at the moment, just checking in
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2015-05-13T19:07:14Z ejbs: What's the difference between DECLAIM and PROCLAIM?
2015-05-13T19:07:43Z Bike: proclaim is a function, declaim is a macro (with compile time side effects at top level)
2015-05-13T19:07:44Z jasom: ejbs: special treating of top-level forms
2015-05-13T19:08:27Z ejbs: Well, ok. When would you use one over the other?
2015-05-13T19:08:34Z jasom:  "If a use of this macro appears as a top level form in a file being processed by the file compiler, the proclamations are also made at compile-time. As with other defining macros, it is unspecified whether or not the compile-time side-effects of a declaim persist after the file has been compiled."
2015-05-13T19:08:42Z Bike: you'd usually use declaim.
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2015-05-13T19:09:23Z ejbs: Alright!
2015-05-13T19:09:50Z jasom: ejbs: if you specifically are trying to control when the declaration takes effect, you may want to use proclaim
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2015-05-13T19:10:38Z ejbs: got it, thanks :)
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2015-05-13T19:29:02Z hitecnologys: Oh, come on, seriously? Now I've got *three* instances of duplicating code instead of two. What the hell was I thinking about?
2015-05-13T19:29:29Z hitecnologys: I should probably start looking for fourth.
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