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quit [Client Quit] 09:36:45 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 09:40:26 what's wrong with this here ?! 09:40:30 format stream "#<~:2I~S ~S~{ ~_~S~}>" 09:40:47 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@88.231.50.227] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41:13 vaporatorius [~vaporator@174.Red-83-37-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 09:41:29 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:42:24 -!- nipra [~nipra@122.177.109.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:42:35 What is supposed to be wrong? 09:44:16 the 2 after the : 09:44:40 that's the numeric argument to ~i 09:44:42 clhs ~i 09:44:42 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/22_cec.htm 09:47:38 so the above should have been what ? 09:47:48 format stream "#<~:~2I~S ~S~{ ~_~S~}>" ? 09:47:52 francogrex [~user@109.128.82.138] has joined #lisp 09:48:54 no? 09:48:59 : is a modifier for ~i 09:49:16 which is mentioned in that link, even 09:49:20 I agree with Bike, nothing seems to be wrong with that format string. 09:50:20 oleo: does FORMAT say that something is wrong? 09:51:04 yes 09:51:07 error in FORMAT: parameters found after #\: or #\@ modifier 09:51:07 ~:2d 09:51:24 oh. yeah, it should be ~2:i, i guess. 09:51:32 for the form (format t "~:2d" 1000000) 09:51:55 ndrei [~avo@83.142.149.227] has joined #lisp 09:52:18 ah ok 09:52:26 so ~2:i then 09:52:54 Probably, yes. 09:53:31 Although, I've always thought that : comes before parameters. 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(Or maybe INTERN) From P8 11:02:37 Oops, sorry 11:02:48 KaiQ [~localhost@p5DD9C1A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 11:03:12 No, it wouldn't. 11:03:18 *From PCL I understand the reader calls that when having read a new symbol 11:03:40 yes, a hookable intern would do what you wanted, I think 11:03:58 no such thing exists, and don't try redefining intern in your running session -- get it wrong and your lisp will explode 11:04:25 I'm curious as to why you would want to do such a thing in the first place? 11:04:31 I do have something like this in mind, though: http://christophe.rhodes.io/notes/wiki/sbcl/variant_packages/ 11:04:47 the usual reason is because "lambda" is quite a lot of visual noise 11:04:58 ...really now? 11:05:17 sure, probably even more than parens are visual noise 11:05:37 you can train yourself out of noticing it, but it is there 11:05:55 Also, if you just wanted to replace lambda, why can't you just write a fn macro that expands to the lambda call? 11:05:56 one trick is to define a reader-macro on  11:06:13 Shinmera: for exactly the two cases (function position, function special form) that I detailed up there ^ 11:06:41 Right. 11:06:53 plus of course (compile nil '(fn (x) (1+ x))) 11:07:00 I was experimenting with building my own CL replacement package, and I was wondering if this was possible, also to maybe make &opt work instead of &optional, etc 11:07:25 -!- ndrei [~avo@83.142.149.227] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:07:49 ndrei [~avo@83.142.149.227] has joined #lisp 11:09:32 The easiest solution is to define new DEFUN macro that would translate such things. 11:10:01 no, the easiest solution is to modify the source code of your CL implementation to recognize your new keywords and special forms 11:10:06 hitecnologys: there's loads of functions that process lambda-lists. 11:10:25 hitecnologys: so rewriting them is not a solution, especially when external code is involved. 11:10:51 if you want a synonym for cl:lambda, just find all the places in your implementation which handle the special meaning of cl:lambda (there are probably about three of them) and add foo:fn to be handled analogously 11:10:52 Shinmera: yeah, I didn't think of that. 11:12:17 On that note, I have a question about special forms: In what way are they more powerful than macros? F.e. could a special form do the fn->lambda trick? 11:13:53 Davidbrcz [~david@191.134.140.88.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 11:15:28 Or am I completely confused about the concept in its entirety 11:15:34 a special form is just something that doesn't evaluate in the standard way 11:15:41 Right. 11:15:59 so, for example, (function ) doesn't find the function #'function and call it with the argument of whatever evaluates to 11:16:08 it does something different. 11:16:59 macros are code to code transformations, so if you can express what you want to express in ordinary CL code, you can write a macro to transform your arbitrary code into CL code 11:17:30 And I don't suppose the standard specifies a way to declare your own special forms 11:17:48 in the limit case of semantics that aren't "natively" supported, you write a mini evaluator or compiler from your language to CL as a macro 11:18:47 "declaring your own special forms" is the same as "saying that this bit of code shouldn't be evaluated in the way that it's specified to be evaluated" 11:19:34 -!- vaporatorius [~vaporator@174.Red-83-37-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Saliendo] 11:19:44 banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has joined #lisp 11:20:52 The closest I can think of to how it would work is reader macros, but for a certain form. 11:21:10 But yeah, I can see that it doesn't quite make sense. 11:24:26 -!- banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:25:41 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 11:27:48 nha [~prefect@koln-4d0b05e1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 11:29:47 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:30:06 liqu0rice [~niklas@brln-4db81e84.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 11:30:25 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:34:13 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@88.231.50.227] has joined #lisp 11:35:07 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@191.134.140.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:36:06 -!- snikkers [~snikkers@cable-217-63-82-193.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:39:17 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@88.231.50.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:43:34 -!- ThePhoeron [~thephoero@CPE68b6fcc5ca13-CM68b6fcc5ca10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:45:30 ThePhoeron [~thephoero@CPE68b6fcc5ca13-CM68b6fcc5ca10.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 11:45:53 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lisp 11:55:10 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00:26 -!- vkrest [~vkrest@173.252.71.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:27 -!- Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-181-56.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:05:21 -!- hugoduncan [~user@bas1-montreal08-1096686679.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05:44 hugoduncan [~user@bas1-montreal08-1096686679.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 12:06:54 is there a way to reset the sbcl repl from within? 12:10:05 liqu0rice: if you mean "completely reset" then no 12:13:33 H4ns: well yes, that was what i meant. is there a 'partial' way then? 12:13:38 Joreji [~thomas@136-135.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 12:15:41 liqu0rice: many of them. for example, if you have screwed up some package, you can delete it and reload the system that defines it 12:16:37 liqu0rice: but in general, i'd just recommend that you restart your lisp. 12:16:59 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 12:18:19 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:20:26 banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has joined #lisp 12:20:37 -!- pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [] 12:25:05 H4ns: i'm using the slimv plugin for vim. sems like would have to quit vim in order to reset the repl. maybe i drop the plugin and use sbcl with rlwrap. are there any major drawbacks with this? 12:26:58 -!- banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:27:11 -!- milosn [~milosn@94.12.79.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:27:57 -!- milosn_ [~milosn@94.12.79.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:29:55 liqu0rice: i don't know anything about slimv, sorry. 12:33:53 liqu0rice: you can clean the REPL via the menu, or via ",-" 12:34:01 or, more exactly, - 12:35:00 flip214: well that clears the screen for me, but not the repl. 12:35:26 liqu0rice: what do you mean, "repl"? the buffer in vim, or the textlines in eg. xterm that runs sbcl? 12:35:34 :help slimv-keyboard 12:36:17 -!- pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:36:27 lyanchih [~lyanchih@220-134-193-4.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 12:36:35 flip214: it clears the buffer, but not the environment. 12:36:55 if you want to clean the sbcl window, look what "tput clear" prints - that's the string from terminfo. 12:37:02 -!- nipra [~nipra@122.177.8.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:37:26 aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 12:38:07 well, (delete-package) is what H4ns said ... that works in slimv, too, of course. what other environment would you like to clean? 12:39:48 fiveop [~fiveop@p5DDC4465.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 12:41:42 fantazo_ [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has joined #lisp 12:42:15 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:43:14 -!- STilda [~kvirc@188.162.166.26] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:43:27 flip214: user defined bindings in the global environment. i will put stuff into packages in the future (just started learning lisp). for now it seems i have to kill the swank server. 12:43:41 Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 12:44:43 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 12:45:30 setmeaway [oosool3@118.45.149.241] has joined #lisp 12:46:29 -!- fantazo_ [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Client Quit] 12:46:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:47:02 -!- aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:47:15 aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 12:47:43 milosn [~milosn@94.12.79.143] has joined #lisp 12:48:51 kiuma [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 12:49:20 -!- aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 12:50:26 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 12:51:05 aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 12:51:31 -!- aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Client Quit] 12:55:08 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 12:56:33 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:56:33 -!- foom [~jknight@2620:15c:6:14:be30:5bff:fedf:6db6] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:59:54 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 13:02:30 -!- WeirdEnthusiast [Elite6963@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-lhdnyukpwasffjwt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:03:24 -!- andreh [~andreh@201.22.190.64.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 13:04:07 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:04:35 WeirdEnthusiast [Elite6963@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-bgyffzvwjxnhfwlj] has joined #lisp 13:07:25 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 13:11:10 -!- KDr2 [~KDr2@113.132.59.32] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:12:01 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.230.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:13:23 xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.230.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 13:13:56 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lisp 13:14:11 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 13:14:24 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:16:25 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 13:18:50 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:20:31 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:21:04 -!- abunchofdollarsi [~abunchofd@l33t.csail.mit.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23:45 -!- cpt_nemo [cpt_nemo@2a01:4f8:130:62a2::71] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:26:12 bassclide [~bassclide@118.129.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #lisp 13:26:16 wakeup [~user@xdsl-89-0-117-150.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 13:26:32 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 13:27:17 hi guys 13:27:42 I can't decide which database backend to use, CLSQL, some object store? 13:28:01 any experiences with the various available object stores? I take it 13:28:01 CLSQL is rather stable. 13:28:27 KDr2 [~KDr2@113.132.32.15] has joined #lisp 13:29:41 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.254.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:30:00 cpt_nemo [cpt_nemo@rfc1459.de] has joined #lisp 13:34:10 -!- cpt_nemo [cpt_nemo@rfc1459.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:36:27 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:40:36 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 13:42:02 wakeup: I'd first of all consider the form of the data to store 13:42:20 then the datastore to use, with secondary consideration given to interface libraries 13:44:15 cpt_nemo [cpt_nemo@rfc1459.de] has joined #lisp 13:49:53 abunchofdollarsi [~abunchofd@l33t.csail.mit.edu] has joined #lisp 14:10:32 p_l: its a very simple model, a lot of items which constist of a couple strings, one being a category identifier. I also like to keep logs of inserted items so that I can optimize for queries like "items inserted since X until Y." 14:11:03 sounds really like something for a key-value store 14:11:17 E.g. instead of searching through all items get the logs (list of items) with matching timestamps. 14:11:38 That was my first hunch too 14:11:42 though postgres might be an option just as well, if you need stability, transactions, and multiple simultaneous operations 14:12:13 and as soon as you want to run a query limited to categories SQL helps too. 14:12:46 LiamH [~none@96.231.217.60] has joined #lisp 14:13:01 I'll probably try CLSQL with it's ORM 14:13:07 see how far I get 14:14:10 also gives you some choice regarding dbms 14:14:36 I have heard good things about postgres, on the other hand I like to start out with the least fancy choices. 14:16:49 postgresql is not fancy. Just classic. 14:17:06 wakeup: postgres + postmodern is probably least fancy 14:17:20 especially if you don't use DAO, which makes more sense than some people think 14:19:35 DAO meaning the ORM mapper? 14:19:53 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:20:30 I liked the idea of using sqlite for dev and X for production, so thats where CLSQL scores 14:21:07 dao is not actually an orm mapper, just a representation for table rows as clos objects 14:21:24 hitecnologys_ [~hitecnolo@94.137.54.132] has joined #lisp 14:21:39 wakeup: well, I am not sure if using two different systems for dev and prod is a good idea 14:21:44 nyef [~nyef@pool-108-7-220-91.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 14:22:03 -!- Joreji [~thomas@136-135.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:22:07 -!- Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:23:41 I should be able to do ,cd and then slime should load .asd if it's in 14:23:51 s// 14:24:31 wakeup: a small postgres instance for developement isn't have heavy 14:24:47 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@94.137.1.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:24:55 and in this case, the performance would be greatly based on the indexing capabilities 14:27:06 The only reason I use sqlite for my development projects is because I work on different machines and being able to simply sync the db file along with GIT without having to worry about anything else is nice. 14:27:28 Otherwise I agree that having the same database/infrastructure on dev and prod is a good idea. 14:27:40 Shinmera: a db init file stored in VCS is imo better solution, more repeatable even 14:27:56 p_l: But I need the data transferred as well. 14:28:06 p_l: Not just the structure 14:28:07 Shinmera: one for schema, one for data 14:28:31 possibly with generators for the latter, so you can quickly make a bunch of schema-compliant data without lots of thinking 14:29:03 That's all a lot of extra work that I don't want to bother with, so sqlite files are just a Nice To Have thing for my corner case. 14:29:54 well, depends on how deep you go into database layer 14:30:16 I try to keep my database structure as simple as possible to avoid any db headaches. 14:30:33 You can't avoid all db headaches. 14:30:41 Well I said I try 14:30:42 :) 14:31:15 No, no... You said that you try to perform some mitigation tactic (one of the ones that I use as well). 14:31:16 db and headaches are synonyms. 14:31:29 pjb: True enough. 14:32:06 nyef: Fine, I retract the "any" from my previous statement. 14:32:07 I really should add a schema-compliant test data generator to my bag of tricks. 14:33:00 nyef: create a bunch of generators for certain types of data (names, addresses, numbers of certain formats/ranges) and use your applications code to load them 14:34:07 Mmm. Same basic principle as behind a scenario generator for a roguelike, right? 14:35:04 In a couple of cases, though, I'll have a field that I can see in the output, but that I haven't implemented a way to set, or similar. Still, it's a good angle to start with. 14:40:36 nyef: mangling format to print insert statements shouldn't be that hard ;) 14:41:11 True. 14:41:29 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41:42 For that matter, my current SQL generation logic is an unholy mess of S-SQL and FORMAT, somewhat papered-over by macros. 14:53:57 _snits_ [~snits@184-98-225-16.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 14:55:22 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-166-111.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:56:31 -!- snits [~snits@71-36-188-158.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:58:40 abunchofdollarsi: That's not too hard to set up. 14:59:11 I see, but presumably I am missing some 'set up'? 14:59:37 pmai [~user@178-27-52-190-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 14:59:45 As I can get it to load manually now, ie (asdf:load-system ...). 15:00:58 oh, hmm, i'm not sure about the slime part 15:02:43 I see. 15:02:57 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 15:06:34 ANyone else get unsolicited password resets for cliki.net around six hours ago? 15:07:55 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:09:02 nyef: Is it OK with you if I become the McCLIM maintainer? 15:09:52 oxum [~oxum@122.174.21.100] has joined #lisp 15:11:01 beach: I have no problem with it. I'm not much of an McCLIM user, or fan for that matter. 15:11:16 nyef: OK, thanks. Just checking. 15:11:44 beach: give it a rest. there's no backing out now :) 15:12:11 slyrus: Right. The decision is made. 15:12:39 I am just waiting for moore33 to merge some stuff into his master branch, and then I'll clone his repository. 15:18:48 stassats [~stassats@pppoe.178-66-85-194.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has joined #lisp 15:18:49 -!- stassats [~stassats@pppoe.178-66-85-194.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has quit [Changing host] 15:18:49 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #lisp 15:21:21 pdk [~realname@c-71-236-103-197.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:24:41 banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has joined #lisp 15:29:59 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.254.125] has joined #lisp 15:30:24 Fare [~fare@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 15:33:19 liqu0rice2 [~yaaic@brln-4db81e84.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 15:33:28 -!- liqu0rice2 [~yaaic@brln-4db81e84.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:34:40 neoncortex [~neoncorte@unaffiliated/xispirito] has joined #lisp 15:37:48 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:41:13 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.5.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:43:42 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:44:50 -!- _snits_ [~snits@184-98-225-16.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:44:55 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:45:34 snits [~snits@inet-hqmc06-o.oracle.com] has joined #lisp 15:55:18 Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 15:56:04 slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.5.56] has joined #lisp 15:58:56 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 15:59:05 -!- banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:03:37 cantstanya [~hello@unaffiliated/cantstanya] has joined #lisp 16:10:22 Davidbrcz [~david@191.134.140.88.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 16:13:22 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-198-255-198-157.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 16:15:04 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-165-56.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 16:15:30 Is there any builtin that's like, "do operation and swallow any conditions (possibly return some default value in such a circumstance)" 16:15:49 clhs ignore-errors 16:15:49 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/m_ignore.htm 16:16:01 abunchofdollarsi: Enjoy. 16:16:42 Cool. 16:16:43 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.254.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:17:40 nug700 [~nug700@71-223-14-137.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 16:18:13 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 16:18:40 -!- effy_ [~x@114.246.85.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:18:48 STilda [~kvirc@188.162.166.26] has joined #lisp 16:19:55 krypton-85 [~user@p54BD2803.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 16:19:59 dam, closure lacks an com-add-bookmark command.... 16:20:41 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #lisp 16:27:48 Hi. I am trying to work with cl-async lib. Examined a lot of tests and examples on its github. But I do not see a way how to interact with its event loop from outside. Does anybody have any example? 16:28:05 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:29:09 effy [~x@114.246.85.222] has joined #lisp 16:29:12 Say I started event loop in a separate thread. Then I want to open tcp-connection. How do I supposed tell to the event loop to give this command? 16:29:30 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 16:30:23 Hi; does anybody has experience with elisp.lisp from CLOCC? Its pupose is to run elisp code in CL. I already tried it. But it seems rather dated since some elisp commands are not recognized - according to the error from CLISP when loading calc. 16:32:16 -!- snits [~snits@inet-hqmc06-o.oracle.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:34 snits [~snits@184-98-225-16.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 16:38:29 -!- CrazyEddy [~weakheart@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:39:58 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41:22 ggole [~ggole@58-7-94-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 16:41:29 how do i get at the slot value of an instance ? 16:41:35 -!- oxum [~oxum@122.174.21.100] has quit [Quit: Bye..] 16:41:41 (slot-value *current-document* :location) does not work for me 16:43:04 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 16:43:07 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:14 http://paste.lisp.org/display/140951 16:43:54 oleo: the slot name is probably not a keyword 16:43:55 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@220-134-193-4.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 16:44:17 it is more likely named LOCATION 16:44:41 You have to get the package right to get the value. 16:45:11 -!- snits [~snits@184-98-225-16.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:45:14 krypton-85: nearly everything in clocc is ancient. CL implementations have evolved (and so has elisp). 16:46:44 snits [~snits@inet-hqmc06-o.oracle.com] has joined #lisp 16:48:35 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 16:51:17 -!- Fare [~fare@cpe-72-229-109-116.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:51:29 -!- pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 16:52:05 /win 10 16:52:41 Xach: Thanks, I suspected so. I did some effort to look for a way to run elisp code in CL (calc is what i am interested in) but I could not find anything else than CLOCC. Do you know another way? 16:52:55 ah ok thank you Xach 16:53:02 krypton-85: i don't know, sorry. 16:53:09 krypton-85: what does calc do? 16:53:28 kobain [~sambio@unaffiliated/kobain] has joined #lisp 16:54:33 banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has joined #lisp 16:56:42 Xach: calc is a desktop calculator package. It is the best I've ever seen. Especially it can handle physical units, quantities with errors and interval forms and mixture of that with several datatypes. It is extremly useful when dealing with measurment data and for that unparalleled. However it is not suitable for extensive programming. Therefore I would like to incorporate it in CL. 16:57:07 ah 16:57:56 -!- Shozan is now known as SHODAN 16:58:19 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.254.125] has joined #lisp 16:59:45 -!- banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:00:12 sohail_ [~sohail@108.161.123.183] has joined #lisp 17:00:13 przl [~przlrkt@p5DCA3B28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 17:00:27 aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 17:02:38 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:03:18 it had it's own getter.... 17:03:27 krypton-85: You might want to take a look at Antik. Has units calculation. 17:03:32 (renderer::document-location *current-document*) 17:05:33 p_nathan [~Adium@174-21-165-174.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 17:07:17 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 17:08:12 -!- sohail_ [~sohail@108.161.123.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:09:15 -!- effy [~x@114.246.85.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:10:24 bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 17:10:31 effy [~x@114.246.85.222] has joined #lisp 17:16:07 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5DCA3B28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:17:00 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:17:33 LiamH: Yes, Antik has units. It is very good for pre- and postprocessing of simulations, but it has no error and interval form datatypes in combination with units. This is to my knowledge outstanding in calc. But I would like to learn about alternatives in CL. 17:18:01 -!- setmeaway [oosool3@118.45.149.241] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:18:25 krypton-85: I've thought about adding interval analysis into Antik. 17:18:46 -!- pirateking-_- is now known as pirateking 17:19:30 setmeaway [~setmeaway@118.45.149.241] has joined #lisp 17:26:34 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@c-98-208-36-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:27:42 jdz [~jdz@212.36.34.246] has joined #lisp 17:28:07 -!- jdz is now known as Guest35956 17:30:14 -!- oconnore [~eric@38.111.17.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:31:09 http://paste.lisp.org/display/140952 17:31:10 I use SBCL as kind of an open development environment with rapid prototyping for Computational Physics. Even systems like SAGE are not flexible and fast enough in comparison to CL. In slowly progressing that I work on incorporating functionality from different packages like gsll, Axiom, and also calc. 17:31:54 tensorpudding [~tensorpud@99.102.68.3] has joined #lisp 17:32:08 oconnore [~eric@38.111.17.138] has joined #lisp 17:32:11 Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has joined #lisp 17:32:58 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:34:10 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 17:38:24 yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has joined #lisp 17:38:37 LiamH: That would be good adding such datatypes as interval and error forms. The trick is to have all operators and functions handle them, as in calc. But that is a lot of work. That is way I look for a way to reuse the code from calc, without having to write it from scratch again. 17:39:44 krypton-85: There is an interval C library, but I've never used it. 17:40:26 -!- EvW [~Thunderbi@2001:981:5f09:1:70ed:4a35:1796:ef6b] has quit [Quit: EvW] 17:40:28 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:41:14 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 17:41:51 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:45:46 EvW [~Thunderbi@2001:981:5f09:1:7956:8078:37e6:a230] has joined #lisp 17:50:05 LiamH: The problem ist the combination. Apparently there is no contemporary code to run elisp in CL. So apart from modernizing the necessary functionality of CLOCC fastest way is to have an emacs-server concurrently running and communicate via IPC. Not very satisfying but acceptable since real measurment data is not that frequent. 17:51:09 -!- aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:53:31 Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:56:11 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:56:51 vaporatorius [~vaporator@186.Red-81-36-13.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 17:58:45 Xuehas [~Xuehas@198.53.20.232] has joined #lisp 18:01:21 -!- cgore [~cgore@108-209-245-92.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:01 jaoswald [~user@cpe-68-175-65-187.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:02:12 -!- yrdz [~p_adams@unaffiliated/p-adams/x-7117614] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:47 has anyone else received a password reset e-mail from cliki.net? 18:05:02 knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-163-187.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 18:06:21 HG` [~HG@185.2.29.227] has joined #lisp 18:07:27 bling^ [~weechat@207-38-254-107.c3-0.43d-ubr2.qens-43d.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #lisp 18:09:38 *nyef* wasn't aware that cliki.net asked for passwords. 18:10:55 I don't think cliki has my email adress 18:11:03 Is one required to register? 18:11:33 ezhovdv [~ezhovdv@92.248.185.177] has joined #lisp 18:12:25 The wiki does, apparently. 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I am not sure it was worthwhile: https://github.com/fukamachi/sxql 19:27:29 aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 19:28:51 -!- HG` [~HG@78.129.177.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:29:55 HG` [~HG@31.205.59.111] has joined #lisp 19:30:29 francogrex: what would make you sure? 19:30:38 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@191.134.140.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:31:38 That's... actually pretty neat for an SQL generator. 19:32:53 when I see it as part on a larger project. On it's own I don't see the benefit over directly writing the sql statements, it's even much easier 19:33:00 its 19:33:50 It might make a good building block for a larger project. 19:34:10 he uses it in bigger projects 19:34:37 https://github.com/fukamachi/integral 19:35:12 ok then that makes more sense 19:35:52 Odd way to define the packages, though, switching to cl-user, running a defpackage, then switching to the newly-defined package. 19:36:09 I just use an explicit CL: prefix on the defpackage form and the subsequent in-package. 19:37:45 francogrex: strings are harder to manipulate than s-expressions. 19:38:28 It makes sense as an abstraction when you realize SQL can be slightly (and annoyingly) differently depending on DB too. 19:38:56 Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lisp 19:38:56 patrickwonders [~patrickwo@67-220-27-111.usiwireless.com] has joined #lisp 19:39:26 *different 19:45:50 ok 19:47:41 there are a few interesting database projects in development on github recently, this one also for example: https://github.com/cosmos72/hyperluminal-db 19:48:59 -!- francogrex [~user@91.179.213.118] has quit [Quit: later] 19:52:25 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 19:54:20 patrickwonders_ [~patrickwo@67-220-27-111.usiwireless.com] has joined #lisp 19:55:14 -!- patrickwonders [~patrickwo@67-220-27-111.usiwireless.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55:14 -!- patrickwonders_ is now known as patrickwonders 19:58:02 prince_jammys [~mischa@pool-108-45-23-241.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:59:10 -!- Xuehas [~Xuehas@S0106bcc8100afea4.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:02:29 kristof [~Kristoffe@unaffiliated/kristof] has joined #lisp 20:02:47 -!- setmeaway [~setmeaway@118.45.149.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:02:57 easye: heard anything about the unsolicited password updates? 20:03:10 (from cliki, that is) 20:09:01 -!- Joreji [~thomas@136-135.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:12:25 -!- scmaccal [~user@bb-216-195-184-157.gwi.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:15:37 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@50-196-148-101-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 20:15:47 Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 20:15:54 kpreid [~kpreid@50-196-148-101-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 20:16:29 Is the next method called by CALL-NEXT-METHOD defined at compile time or does it need to be identified at run-time? I ask because it seems to me that it would be known at compile time but my reading of the code says that its determined at run time. 20:18:25 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-237-68-160.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:21:02 drmeister: The next method is determined by the "effective method" which can be affected by the types of the parameters and definitions for additional methods. 20:24:10 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 20:24:45 nyef: Thank you - that makes sense. I implemented a stripped down SINGLE-DISPATCH-GENERIC-FUNCTION class for interfacing C++ classes/methods with CL. I'm deriving CL classes from some of these C++ classes and I'm dealing with inheritance of SINGLE-DISPATCH-GENERIC-FUNCTIONs. I think because my S-D-G-F's are simpler (no before/after methods etc) that I do know the CALL-NEXT-METHOD at compile time. 20:24:46 Xuehas [~Xuehas@198.53.20.232] has joined #lisp 20:24:58 If the inheritance hierarchy doesn't change that is. 20:25:14 Is inheritance in Common Lisp considered contravariant? 20:25:24 What is contravariant? 20:25:27 Or does method-chaining really make such a variance description irrelevant? 20:26:12 drmeister: List is a subtype of List even though Int is a subtype of some polymorphic A 20:26:19 If you mean "does not change once initially defined" I think "no". Everything in CL appears to be designed to be changeable on the fly. 20:26:46 covariant as x changes y changes, contravariant as x changes y changes inversely proportional ? 20:27:07 oleo: kind of, I think 20:27:50 does not change is invariant.... 20:27:53 -!- aftersha_ [~textual@h-238-41.a336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:28:50 i don't get it.... 20:29:03 There isn't a concept of parametric classes/types in Common Lisp, actually, so this is a nonsensical question 20:29:31 i have defined a bookmark add command to closure, but when my *bookmarks* variable is empty i.e () then it won't get populated.... 20:29:43 but once i have something in it, it gets populated.... 20:30:00 i really don't get it.... 20:32:06 anyone have an idea ? 20:33:36 paste code? 20:34:19 are you updating it with nconc? 20:34:23 -!- Nizumzen [~Nizumzen@cpc1-reig5-2-0-cust251.6-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:36:12 http://paste.lisp.org/display/140952#1 20:36:19 i'm using push 20:37:05 why would you expect that to work? 20:37:21 when i go into the clim-gui package and add it there it works, and after adding it there it works also in the browser.... 20:37:23 your explicitly doing nothing but printing "no bookmarks yet" 20:37:45 in the null case 20:37:47 exactly, you're not doing any push when *bookmarks* is empty 20:37:50 aaah 20:37:54 shite 20:38:02 logic error. 20:38:13 nothing to do with body "fluids". 20:39:04 -!- ldionmarcil [~louis@unaffiliated/maden] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:39:51 -!- bassclide [~bassclide@118.129.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:40:07 yep 20:40:28 fixed it.... 20:40:30 is somewhere *anywhere* lisp lizard in svg format? 20:41:17 As a side note, does lisp really need a logo to identify software is written in it? does anyone do that with C or Java or JS or most other langs? 20:41:26 ldionmarcil [~louis@unaffiliated/maden] has joined #lisp 20:41:41 well, this lizard just looks nice ;) 20:42:26 scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #lisp 20:44:31 -!- bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:44:45 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44:47 foreignFunction1 [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has joined #lisp 20:45:10 -!- foreignFunction1 is now known as foreignFunction 20:45:16 fmeyer [~fmeyer@179.208.163.134] has joined #lisp 20:47:28 -!- snits [~snits@inet-hqmc06-o.oracle.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:05 a lot of the newer languages, yes 20:49:10 -!- sellout-1 is now known as sellout 20:50:45 -!- liqu0rice [~niklas@brln-4db81e84.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:51:06 Quadrescence: People still do that with PHP >.< 20:51:41 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52:45 snits [~snits@inet-hqmc03-o.oracle.com] has joined #lisp 20:52:46 jackdaniel: There's no SVG from what I know, but here's the original page https://web.archive.org/web/20130529153019/http://www.normal-null.de/lisp_logo.html 20:53:21 -!- kristof [~Kristoffe@unaffiliated/kristof] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:53:45 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:55:09 Shinmera: thanks 20:55:15 -!- Xuehas [~Xuehas@198.53.20.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:56:22 -!- patrickwonders [~patrickwo@67-220-27-111.usiwireless.com] has quit [Quit: patrickwonders] 20:57:57 jackdaniel: Yeah, I was trying to find the SVG/ai/eps/whatever original some years ago, but it was already lost then. 20:58:13 jackdaniel: I think one can only attemtp to retrace the bitmap and recreate the vector original 20:58:19 jackdaniel: in inkscape, or illustrator. 21:02:42 -!- Code_Man` [~Code_Man@138-204.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03:30 vkrest [~vkrest@173.252.71.189] has joined #lisp 21:04:36 Xuehas [~Xuehas@206.75.37.141] has joined #lisp 21:04:38 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-165-56.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:49 -!- ehu [~ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:16:13 n0n0 [~n0n0___@c-24-7-64-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:19:41 -!- prince_jammys [~mischa@pool-108-45-23-241.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:20:33 -!- Phoodus [~user@wsip-68-107-217-139.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:23:18 -!- HG` [~HG@31.205.59.111] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:24:26 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Brb] 21:24:52 HG` [~HG@78.129.156.42] has joined #lisp 21:25:11 -!- akersof [~akersof@unaffiliated/zoroaster] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:26:21 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 21:27:18 puchacz [~puchacz@46-65-36-47.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 21:27:31 hi, how can I make it work please? 21:27:32 (sb-ext:run-program (format nil "cp ~a ~a" tmp-file to-file) nil) 21:28:12 reading the doc about run-program? 21:28:14 I tried it as (sb-ext:run-program "cp" (list tmp-file to-file)) as well 21:28:32 pjb: ok..... 21:29:23 (sb-ext:run-program "cp" (list tmp-file to-file)) sounds good. "/bin/cp" might be better. 21:30:05 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 21:30:21 pjb: indeed, just found it 21:30:22 What about (rename-file tmp-file to-file) ? Do you need the original? 21:30:22 thx 21:30:35 no, I will go with rename, good idea 21:30:54 Otherwise there's (com.informatimago.common-lisp.cesarum.file:copy-file src-file dst-file). 21:30:59 and a lot of others. 21:31:01 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 21:35:27 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 21:36:20 rosnorabota [~rosnorabo@193.104.110.31] has joined #lisp 21:40:00 -!- p_nathan [~Adium@174-21-165-174.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:41:35 -!- rosnorabota [~rosnorabo@193.104.110.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:43:41 a user's program involves a few very simple structure definitions whose constructors are called to make a particular datum. each time a datum is made, it is pushed to a *db* variable. the user wants to save this global database of structure instances to the local filesystem - when the user tries to simply dump the database and recall it the next day, there are all sorts of little problems... 21:45:33 is it simply that the user has to convert the structures to some sort of more readable format and store that, requiring a function not included in his common lisp, as well as another function that reads each datum in the readable format and makes them into structures again? 21:46:04 or is there some sort of idea that the user isn't aware of that s/he'd do well to research? 21:48:34 defstruct structures are printable readably (as long as their fields are bound to printable readably values). 21:48:47 There should be no little problem. 21:50:57 hugodunc` [~user@bas1-montreal08-1096686679.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 21:51:24 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:42 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 21:52:06 -!- hugoduncan [~user@bas1-montreal08-1096686679.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:53:58 some of the structures have attributes that are strings or contain characters that something like (read) wouldn't like.. i thought if i used prin1/princ to write the output, that read would be applicable and function. but if a structure's attribue is perhaps a uri, read is getting caught up somewhere around -- :uri http:// -- the error being that http is not a recognized package 21:54:32 Choose external format wisely, if you have non ascii characters in your strings. 21:54:35 davazp [~user@14.Red-79-152-116.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 21:55:16 printing readably is archieved by means of (let ((*print-readably* t)) (prin1 object)) 21:56:39 that wouldn't address the presence of a colon though would it? i'd have to modify the value while it's a string and escape such characters if i want to (read) it back, is that right? 21:57:08 Why do we need to repeat everything thrice? 21:57:26 Compare: (print "Hello") (princ "Hello") !!! 21:57:54 -!- beach [~user@ABordeaux-651-1-138-146.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #lisp 22:00:30 -!- fiveop [~fiveop@p5DDC4465.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: humhum] 22:00:56 prxq [~mommer@x2f6a1c1.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lisp 22:01:31 thanks pjb 22:04:48 patrickwonders [~patrickwo@user-38q42ns.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 22:05:22 just curious.. do you ever modfy your lisp to recognize white space, indentation to indicate a line's child of the previous line for example / do you have any feelings on the idea? 22:05:54 No. Significant spaces is a silly idea. This has been known since the 50's. 22:08:00 okay. i love parenthesis myself but i still see people talking about spaces. 22:08:12 nydel: It's common go the opposite direction and use editor modes which indent automatically based on the parenthesis 22:08:31 s/go/to go 22:09:08 nydel: people are talking about all kinds of things, silly or not :D 22:09:50 nydel: there have been some projects which made a common lisp syntax with fewer parenthesis but I don't think any got much adoption 22:10:12 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.149.108.220] has joined #lisp 22:10:26 -!- hugodunc` [~user@bas1-montreal08-1096686679.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:48 usually, people first get used to the parenthesis and then they start to actually prefer them to anything else when they become actual lispers 22:11:05 hugodunc` [~user@bas1-montreal08-1096686679.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 22:11:45 -!- ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-236-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:12:01 First you have to realize there's no parentheses in lisp. 22:12:19 is there any lambda 22:12:26 There are. 22:12:35 i meant that as a koan 22:12:42 -!- alezost [~user@128-70-204-126.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:12:53 Try: (loop for token in '(lambda () 42) do (print token)) 22:12:53 -!- rainbyte [~rainbyte@190.191.84.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:13:04 No parentheses. 22:13:28 -!- HG` [~HG@78.129.156.42] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:14:02 are you sure the ' on lambda is necessary 22:14:38 think about it. 22:14:53 in that form it absolutely is 22:15:17 it's a tricky form though it might do something other than what it looks like it does 22:15:21 ok now it hit me 22:15:37 for a bit i thought you were calling the lambda form on each step 22:15:45 The thing is that here I'm working with lisp source. That is data. Hence the quote. 22:15:46 so it's iterating over the elements of the form ok 22:17:43 (defun print-tree (sexp level) (if (atom sexp) (format t "~V<~>~S~%" level sexp) (loop for item in sexp do (print-tree item (+ 4 level))))) 22:17:43 (print-tree '(lambda (a b) (if (= a b) 1 (* a b))) 0) 22:17:47 again, no parentheses. 22:18:24 well not until expansion 22:18:45 but i guess that doesn't matter does it. 22:19:35 it /is/ kind of fun to macroexpand that first loop form considering its idea is there are no parenthesis in lisp 22:19:56 -!- ndrei [~avo@83.142.149.227] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:20:39 See http://www.informatimago.com/articles/usenet.html#Lisp-Paradoxes 22:22:19 -!- fmeyer [~fmeyer@179.208.163.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:22:59 blahness [1804ccf6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.4.204.246] has joined #lisp 22:23:00 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.240.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:23 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:23:54 rainbyte [~rainbyte@190.191.84.215] has joined #lisp 22:24:05 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24:27 -!- rainbyte [~rainbyte@190.191.84.215] has quit [Client Quit] 22:24:45 -!- blahness [1804ccf6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.4.204.246] has quit [Client Quit] 22:26:28 ohhh 22:28:13 ndrei [~avo@83.142.149.227] has joined #lisp 22:28:55 wakeup` [~user@xdsl-78-35-59-37.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 22:30:04 did you see the futurama in which bender overclocks himself and redesigns his physical body it so that his head "is the only place i'm not, ha, i amuse myself" ... lisp parenthesis are the same as that. 22:30:05 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 22:30:36 Unfortunately, I've not seen all the futurama episodes. 22:31:53 he has to go to niagara falls for liquid coolant and electricity, and he makes it so his face is on the inside of a cave -- so he's everywhere except for in that cave. 22:32:08 -!- wakeup [~user@xdsl-89-0-117-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:32:11 parenthesis can be anywhere too except in lisp 22:33:26 AmLearning [~StopAbuse@gay.tail.sx] has joined #lisp 22:33:43 The point is that lisp sources are composed of sexp, which are made mostly of cons cells and symbols. Stray characters are a rare occurence. You could actually have a parenthesis in lisp source: (char= ch #\)) 22:34:06 (loop for token in '(char= ch #\)) do (print token)) 22:34:44 but since it's self evaluating data, it doesn't really count. You wouldn't count ')' as a parenthesis in C. Only in if() or while(). 22:35:07 i think the confusion(&/or beauty) is that it initially looks like the parenthesis are holding the code together from outside. but it's all sexpr, the parenthesis are closer to arrows than hugs. 22:35:54 Indeed. You could have an editor that would represent lisp sexps with other kind of graphism. 22:37:19 a 3d holographic interface, please 22:37:44 eg. http://appshopper.com/productivity/lisping 22:38:10 or https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/comp.lang.lisp/HcCEhM9HpCc/5VXTGIIIUDAJ 22:39:48 oh i like that, textual nodal trees 22:40:08 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 22:42:12 i remember playing with lisping, i can never quite convince myself that i want to learn scheme 22:46:07 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.254.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:47:36 Davidbrcz [~david@191.134.140.88.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 22:48:03 -!- sellout [~Adium@75-166-123-23.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:50:36 -!- AmLearning [~StopAbuse@gay.tail.sx] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50:50 -!- heddwch [~yoshi@76.8.3.189] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 22:52:08 heddwch [~yoshi@76.8.3.189] has joined #lisp 22:58:15 -!- krypton-85 [~user@p54BD2803.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #lisp 23:03:15 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-175-183.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:03:52 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-139-202.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 23:04:25 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:05:05 sc00fy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #lisp 23:05:49 -!- scoofy [~scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:06:02 -!- sc00fy is now known as scoofy 23:09:47 -!- Kabaka [kabaka@botters/kabaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:15:47 Kabaka [kabaka@botters/kabaka] has joined #lisp 23:15:57 -!- vkrest [~vkrest@173.252.71.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:37 Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 23:19:39 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@191.134.140.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:23:34 -!- n0n0 [~n0n0___@c-24-7-64-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:25:37 -!- bjz [~bjz@125.253.99.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:30:37 Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:505c:c8a0:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has joined #lisp 23:41:26 frx [~a@93-138-114-245.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 23:44:59 -!- frxx [~a@93-141-28-34.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:46:37 -!- nha [~prefect@koln-4d0b05e1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:48:10 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.149.108.220] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:29 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.149.108.220] has joined #lisp 23:51:35 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZzzZZ] 23:55:09 jaccas [~pjfcl@3.182.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lisp 23:55:14 -!- jaccas [~pjfcl@3.182.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:35 jaccas [~pjfcl@3.182.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lisp