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Compile them yourself with the options you want, such as threading support. 01:42:47 pjb: i ever tried compiling SBCL on freebsd but failed. i will try it again 01:50:44 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.94.46] has left #lisp 01:52:05 antonv [5daba1b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.171.161.176] has joined #lisp 01:53:15 -!- pjb [~t@AMontsouris-651-1-184-94.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:56:22 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.94.46] has joined #lisp 02:01:53 -!- Alfr [~Unknown@f053064020.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:02:09 -!- resttime [~resttime@c-50-158-65-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: resttime] 02:04:19 pjb [~user@AMontsouris-651-1-217-89.w92-140.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 02:04:32 Poenikatu [~user@pdpc/supporter/bronze/poenikatu] has joined #lisp 02:04:34 -!- pjb is now known as Guest2754 02:05:14 Please could someone give me a URL of where I can get a copy of Paul Graham's book "ANSI Common Lisp"? 02:05:52 -!- Guest2754 is now known as pjb` 02:07:05 -!- pjb` is now known as pjb 02:07:39 Poenikatu: http://www.amazon.com/ANSI-Common-LISP-Paul-Graham/dp/0133708756/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1388196448&sr=8-1&keywords=ANSI+Common+Lisp 02:08:15 adeht: I was under the impression that the book is available as a PDF file for free. Amazon don't do that sort of thing. 02:08:42 Poenikatu: it is not 02:08:51 that seems unlikely given http://www.paulgraham.com/acl.html 02:08:57 Poenikatu: maybe you're referring to On Lisp 02:09:20 Or may be you want to switch to the outlaw side of it, and try piratebay? 02:09:23 adeht: Definitely not. I had a free copy of ACL, but I've just rubbished my external hard disc. 02:09:45 drmeister [~drmeister@ip24-250-59-12.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #lisp 02:09:59 But the NSA is building a file of all who use Tor and piratebay. Be forewarned! 02:10:25 pjb: Not being in the USA sort of makes it difficult for the NSA to track me. 02:11:04 karswell [~user@31.185.220.72] has joined #lisp 02:11:09 Pfft! Not at all! 02:11:45 Poenikatu: first, irc.freenode.org has half its servers in the USA, so they already know you, and then, they just spy undersea repeatitors. 02:11:49 NSA tracks everyone :( 02:12:11 Poenikatu: you should use traceroute from time to time, it's interesting, (even if it only shows the visible part of the iceberg). 02:13:22 First responder argus Albanian Execution CipherTAC-2000 Sundevil Toxic CISU Peking Electric KGB al-Qaida Sonora Mexico Michoacna 02:13:33 there you go, now NSA can pick up 02:14:18 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@ip24-250-59-12.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:14:26 resttime [~resttime@c-50-158-65-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:17:11 -!- Vicfred [~Vicfred@189.232.8.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:21:30 -!- resttime [~resttime@c-50-158-65-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: resttime] 02:22:41 Anyway, I couldn't care a f**k about the NSA. May their balls freeze. 02:23:40 I wonder if it's enough a punishment. Freezing balls is a rather painless way to emasculate them. We can imagine something better. 02:24:45 Some idiots castrate goats with a hunting knife. Would that work? 02:25:10 For example, we could surgically (but without anesthesy) open them up, unwrap all their organs, scan them, have them published on the web, and wrap them up again back. 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ZZZzzz] 04:09:24 Hi! I'm trying to create a little server that sends back the messages I send it. Using usocket:socket-server for this, but it seems to close the connection after the first time I ping it. How can I get it to listen for messages infinitely with socket-server? 04:09:31 klltkr [~klltkr@unaffiliated/klltkr] has joined #lisp 04:13:49 -!- flame_ [~flame_@unaffiliated/flame/x-0205742] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 04:16:23 sohail_ [~sohail@75-119-250-222.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 04:16:52 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 04:17:36 flame_ [~flame_@unaffiliated/flame/x-0205742] has joined #lisp 04:31:54 pranavrc: socket-server probably is a wrapper to listen(2). You need to call accept(2). Read http://www.unpbook.com/ 04:32:00 przl [~przlrkt@p5DCA3BBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 04:32:49 -!- Srpx [b1289274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.40.146.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:36:26 pjb, alright I'll check that out. 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[~cneira@pc-33-7-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:58:24 <- juan@acm.org (smugness) 17:59:01 JuanDaugherty, hmm? 17:59:50 Vlad4Justice, cop "VladTheImpaler" 18:00:15 s/cop/grab/ 18:00:45 -!- protist [~protist@151.224.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:03:30 ehu [ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 18:04:27 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:07:54 JuanDaugherty, what is with Vlad? 18:07:56 The last bastion of justice 18:08:00 He knew what justice was all about 18:08:07 impaling children for petty theft, that is what we call justice. 18:08:20 off-topic alert 18:10:31 -!- jewel [~jewel@197.111.223.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:11:06 jewel [~jewel@197.111.223.242] has joined #lisp 18:16:14 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@ip24-250-59-12.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:46 -!- teggi [~teggi@123.21.195.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:18:35 I want to create an array of lists (I guess internally that's a pointer, right?), so I passed :element-type 'list :initial-element nil, but lookup is extremely slow. What can I do? 18:19:07 u-a-e-t of list is probably t 18:19:09 nothing 18:19:42 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.159.160] has joined #lisp 18:19:47 Bike: What do you mean? 18:20:00 clhs u-a-e-t 18:20:00 upgraded-array-element-type: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/f_upgr_1.htm 18:20:19 stassats: Okay, is there some other way of quickly indexing into a collection of, say, 10^6 lists? 18:20:31 what do you mean lookup is slow, though? it should still be just an array access 18:20:47 depending on the list format you could use a radix tree or something 18:23:37 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@147.30.99.154] has joined #lisp 18:23:37 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@147.30.99.154] has quit [Changing host] 18:23:37 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 18:23:39 How did you measure this slowness? Is there other code involved, or just the subscript operation? 18:24:15 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.159.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:25:45 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.159.160] has joined #lisp 18:27:34 Hm, there might be other things at work.. 18:27:47 -!- sirdancealo2 [~sirdancea@194.228.11.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:29:34 -!- tensorpudding [~tensorpud@108.87.19.135] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:29:47 aref is O(1). How can it be slow? 18:30:08 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.159.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:30:09 even if you had one billion lists in this vector, it would still take the same time to access them! 18:30:54 tensorpudding [~tensorpud@108.87.19.135] has joined #lisp 18:33:19 Bike_ [~Glossina@71-222-35-7.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 18:34:43 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:34:49 not really, see locality 18:36:46 MoALTz [~no@host81-153-176-220.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 18:37:17 -!- jewel [~jewel@197.111.223.242] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:38:20 -!- tensorpudding [~tensorpud@108.87.19.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:38:51 -!- Bike_ [~Glossina@71-222-35-7.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:39:24 -!- matko [~matko@ip82-139-125-221.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:39:34 Bike [~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 18:39:35 -!- vinian [~vinian@124.202.190.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:40:07 join #c++ 18:40:12 oops 18:41:48 stassats: strangely, I don't think that's what Munksgaard's complaining about. 18:43:10 i'm contradicting only you 18:50:13 axion [~axion@cpe-67-242-83-63.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:51:05 When you have n-i accesses in O(2) and i accesses in O(1), you still have n accesses in O(1), DUH! 18:51:30 Size of caches are independent from the size of the data structure, this is what O(1) means! 18:51:44 -!- Davidbrcz_ [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:52:10 this is not what "it would still take the same time to access them!" and "is slow" means 18:56:38 -!- nicholasbulka [~nicholasb@108-212-80-206.lightspeed.jcvlfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: nicholasbulka] 18:56:50 vinian [~vinian@124.202.190.196] has joined #lisp 18:56:57 -!- vinian [~vinian@124.202.190.196] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:57:29 O(1) covers a lot of ground. 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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9540080/screenshots/yui/2013-12-28_22%3A38_1366x768.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9540080/screenshots/yui/2013-12-28_22%3A39_1366x768.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9540080/screenshots/yui/2013-12-28_22%3A37_1366x768.png 22:51:04 cneira [~cneira@pc-33-7-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lisp 22:51:39 gah 22:51:44 forgot the syntax 22:52:07 -!- Corvidiu1 [~cosman246@187.153.55.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:52:14 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:52:24 Corvidiu1 [~cosman246@187.153.55.114] has joined #lisp 22:52:55 fixd 22:54:04 pecg [~pecg@unaffiliated/pecg] has joined #lisp 22:55:51 -!- schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:56:42 tensorpudding [~tensorpud@108.87.19.135] has joined #lisp 22:57:12 schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has joined #lisp 22:57:26 -!- Davidbrcz_ 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