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#lisp 22:05:58 I'm a little bit afraid to find out how destructuring works under the hood. 22:06:03 Especially destructuring-bind. 22:06:12 At the moment I'm just treating it like magic :( 22:06:20 most of the pain is just parsing the lambda list. 22:06:29 then there are lots of bindings to (cdr arguments) and so on, it ain't that bad 22:06:47 Other than making bindings, parsing the lambda list IS what looks like magic 22:07:14 I'm sure it would make sense if I looked at it for a while 22:07:40 well, you can imagine how to parse lambda lists that include just &body and &rest pretty easily, for a start 22:07:42 Bike: I tried grokking the ONCE-ONLY macro and got lost in the backquotes. I'm also a little confused about why it apparently gensyms things... *twice*. 22:08:37 -!- synacktic [~jordyd@unaffiliated/jordyd] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:22 Bike: Oh, right, that's fine. But the nested list structures in the lambda list... 22:09:36 you just parse recursively. 22:09:43 I suppose 22:10:07 Like, if you have a lambda list (foo (...) bar) you bind foo to the car, bar to the caddr, and recursively set up ... with the cadr as the arguments. 22:10:21 Oh, that actually makes sense. 22:10:46 Ok, not magic anymore :) 22:11:02 it gets pretty nasty once you think about &optional and &key though. 22:11:08 :( 22:11:21 clhs :allow-other-keys 22:11:21 Sorry, I couldn't find anything for :allow-other-keys. 22:11:24 oh well. 22:11:55 organometallica [~bigsqueez@c-50-129-214-32.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:18:17 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:43 Sgeo [~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 22:29:47 lman [~lman@unaffiliated/lman] has joined #lisp 22:30:50 Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:5025:58d0:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has joined #lisp 22:30:57 lyanchih_ [~lyanchih@220-134-193-4.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 22:34:54 cneira [~cneira@pc-33-7-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lisp 22:36:50 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 22:56:28 -!- LiamH [~healy@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:57:59 KaiQ [~localhost@p5B2B1C3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 23:04:45 -!- ered [~ered@75-101-56-39.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:41 -!- zilitor [~nick@cpe-70-112-15-188.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:07:13 -!- kristof [~kristof@unaffiliated/kristof] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:08:03 karijes [~user@188.127.118.44] has joined #lisp 23:17:53 ered [~ered@75-101-56-39.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 23:18:16 -!- ered [~ered@75-101-56-39.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 23:18:35 ered [~ered@75-101-56-39.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 23:21:29 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22:02 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 23:28:29 -!- Corvidium [~cosman246@74.194.37.145] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:30:14 Corvidium [~cosman246@74.194.37.145] has joined #lisp 23:30:57 -!- karijes [~user@188.127.118.44] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:31:25 karijes [~user@188.127.118.44] has joined #lisp 23:35:53 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:35:55 -!- dstatyvka [ejabberd@pepelaz.jabber.od.ua] has left #lisp 23:36:37 -!- lman [~lman@unaffiliated/lman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36:38 esplainisix [~esplainis@190.6.133.208] has joined #lisp 23:36:54 p_nathan [~Adium@174-21-165-174.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 23:36:56 Hi all 23:37:09 anyone can recommend a good setup fr mc 23:37:13 for mac 23:37:44 i'm using emacs, slime and sbcl mostly. for native osx development, ccl is better than sbcl. 23:39:21 erikc [~erikc@CPE68b6fccfe583-CM68b6fccfe580.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 23:40:35 patbarron [~pat@lectroid.com] has joined #lisp 23:40:35 kristof [~kristof@unaffiliated/kristof] has joined #lisp 23:40:47 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:46:10 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.91.149] has joined #lisp 23:46:19 sellout- [~Adium@c-68-83-156-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:47:07 hey H4ns: thanks! 23:47:17 -!- lyanchih_ [~lyanchih@220-134-193-4.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:48:40 -!- tensorpudding [~tensorpud@99.148.204.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:49:00 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZZzZ] 23:49:45 Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 23:52:11 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:52:49 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:56:52 -!- karijes [~user@188.127.118.44] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:57:34 karijes [~user@188.127.118.44] has joined #lisp