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It's illegal to rebind any name in COMMON-LISP, including binding cells that aren't defined for those symbols by the standard, and SBCL is very stringent about it 01:56:58 so even though there's no slot named CL:PI anywhere in the standard, it's still illegal for you to name one that 01:57:36 same thing comes up if you wanted to name your slot TYPE for instance (which is actually a pretty common thing to want to call your slot) 01:58:35 Please note that the symbol used for a slot-name in defclass is bound to, and also not in it's use case for slot-value. 01:58:51 s/is bound to/is never bound to/ 01:59:03 doesn't matter 01:59:05 it's illegal 01:59:16 lemme find you the precise chapter 01:59:19 Says what part of the spec.? 01:59:40 clhs 11.1.2.1.2 01:59:40 Constraints on the COMMON-LISP Package for Conforming Programs: http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/11_abab.htm 01:59:54 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@137.164.119.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:00:01 except i don't see mention of slots. 02:01:33 Me too. 02:02:24 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:04 hmm, I was quite sure that was one of the restrictions 02:03:14 -!- optikalmouse [~omouse@69-165-245-60.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:04:11 "16. Using it as the class-name argument to setf of find-class." <-- huh 02:04:13 binding pi is still disallowed though, since it's a constant variable, as excepted from the exceptions in the subsection there (most bureaucratic phrase i've ever constructed, i hope) 02:06:51 From defclass dictionary entry, I think this is enough to dissallow cl:pi -- "The slot-name argument is a symbol that is syntactically valid for use as a variable name." 02:06:51 might want to scroll up and learn alllll about that 02:06:58 reference: "something about something you said was talked about in the past" .... thanks, I think I'll pass 02:07:13 Vivitron: there has just been a lengthy discussion of that; that phrase has no meaning in the light of the rest of the standard 02:07:20 mathrick, if I were to use it according to 16. 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[~user@2601:9:4180:468:e4e4:6fb:b51f:f003] has joined #lisp 06:44:27 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.28.185] has joined #lisp 06:46:16 nydel [nydel@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-zhdcodexgzwihkdg] has joined #lisp 06:46:49 anyone feel like helping me with a little algorithmic function building 06:47:15 trying to add a (generate-a-table-of-contents-automatically-by-the-headers) to my wiki 06:49:06 zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.95.99] has joined #lisp 06:49:07 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.28.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:49:33 it worked until i added a grandchild, then i fixed it, then when i added a great-grandchild it broke again. the next child doesn't count things right & ends up identifying the wrong parent. and the way i'm "fixing" it i think i keep having to add a new counter for each level deeper in the nodal tree which obviously means i'm doing something horribly wrong 06:51:08 nydel: That's such a long name. Why not (gen-toc-by-headers) 06:52:23 -!- round-robin [~bubo@91.224.149.58] has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:58:01 -!- kristof [~kristof@unaffiliated/kristof] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:58:08 kristof: it's closer to your name really, i was being descriptive 06:58:33 would you mind looking at the code i've got? 07:02:59 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 07:05:43 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #lisp 07:10:08 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.95.99] has left #lisp 07:13:43 oxum [~oxum@122.164.158.220] has joined #lisp 07:14:07 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:14:18 -!- michael_lee [~michael_l@117.22.206.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15:15 zajn [~zajn@c-50-173-48-75.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 07:16:06 nydel: post a paste 07:16:22 zickzackv [~faot@port-92-198-30-130.static.qsc.de] has joined #lisp 07:17:06 Beetny 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tell sbcl to inline it twice or something like that? 09:59:32 -!- echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:43 mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has joined #lisp 10:04:54 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:06:50 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 10:08:55 alexherbo2 [~alexherbo@APlessis-Bouchard-154-1-94-197.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 10:11:21 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-175-2-214.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:11:51 -!- urandom__ [~user@ip-37-24-171-239.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:13:26 -!- ramkrsna [ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:15:41 hlavaty [~user@friedrichstrasse.knowledgetools.de] has joined #lisp 10:18:37 rudi [~rudi@1x-193-157-203-98.uio.no] has joined #lisp 10:21:14 koning_robot: nope. But you can write a macro that does it. 10:22:37 harish [~harish@124.197.102.126] has joined #lisp 10:22:58 Okasu [~1@unaffiliated/okasu] has joined #lisp 10:24:28 ogamita: ok thanks. i'll see if i can figure something out. 10:25:16 fe[nl]ix: hi, did the libs work for you or do you still need some other non-hu.dwim? 10:26:39 ramkrsna [ramkrsna@nat/redhat/x-lqbpnasqwnyssbpi] has joined #lisp 10:26:39 -!- ramkrsna [ramkrsna@nat/redhat/x-lqbpnasqwnyssbpi] has quit [Changing host] 10:26:39 ramkrsna [ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has joined #lisp 10:33:09 -!- hiredman [~hiredman@volyova.ec2.thelastcitadel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:33:09 -!- guyal [~anonymous@108.235.117.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:33:13 guyal_ [~anonymous@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 10:34:37 oxum [~oxum@122.164.68.103] has joined #lisp 10:35:08 hiredman [~hiredman@volyova.ec2.thelastcitadel.com] has joined #lisp 10:35:54 -!- smull [~smull@port-212-202-120-50.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:35:58 KaiQ [~localhost@p5DD9F2F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 10:36:47 -!- motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has quit [Quit: tschüß] 10:39:10 stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has joined #lisp 10:40:45 smull [~smull@port-212-202-120-50.static.qsc.de] has joined #lisp 10:44:27 ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.28.185] has joined #lisp 10:45:50 -!- daimrod [daimrod@sbrk.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:49:32 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.28.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:50:40 -!- KaiQ [~localhost@p5DD9F2F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51:15 ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-236-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 10:52:14 -!- n0n0 [~n0n0___@2602:306:c410:500:40be:50dd:1fd8:fcfc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:53:19 -!- gko_ [~gko@218-161-19-128.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:54:13 -!- Shinmera [~linus@public-docking-pat-etx-mapped-0024.ethz.ch] has quit [Quit: BBL] 11:05:05 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06:21 Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 11:07:31 -!- Harag [~Thunderbi@ti-226-252-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:13:58 -!- smull [~smull@port-212-202-120-50.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:14:15 -!- Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:17:35 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 11:18:27 _5kg [~zifeitong@60.191.2.238] has joined #lisp 11:19:14 -!- round-robin [~bubo@91.224.149.58] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:25:39 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 11:29:08 pnpu 11:33:01 minion: pnpuff: have a look at https://www.coursera.org/course/compilers http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC001B7F9C278D14C 11:33:01 pnpuff have a look at httpswww.coursera.orgcoursecompilers httpwww.youtube.complaylist?list=PLC001B7F9C278D14C: An error was encountered in lookup: Parse error:URI "http://www.cliki.net/pnpuff%20have%20a%20look%20at%20httpswww.coursera.orgcoursecompilers%20httpwww.youtube.complaylist?list=PLC001B7F9C278D14C?source" contains illegal character #\? at position 143.. 11:33:10 minion: memo for pnpuff: have a look at https://www.coursera.org/course/compilers http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC001B7F9C278D14C 11:33:10 Remembered. 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asdf:component-loaded-p 16:41:47 wonderful. i assume asdf:component-loaded-p doesn't care how i loaded the system? 16:42:01 as long as it's through asdf, probably not 16:42:23 -!- shridhar is now known as shridhar`afk 16:45:31 STilda [~kvirc@188.162.166.5] has joined #lisp 16:46:01 CADD [~CADD@12.227.104.109] has joined #lisp 16:46:52 -!- CADD [~CADD@12.227.104.109] has quit [Client Quit] 16:46:55 -!- Posterdati [~kvirc@host41-231-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:47:15 CADD [~CADD@12.227.104.109] has joined #lisp 16:49:08 is there a way to suddenly be root in the middle of an open REPL, an equivalent to sudo at the shell 16:49:52 -!- michael_lee [~michael_l@222.91.189.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:50:09 e.g. if you want to upgrade something system-wide in the current instance without closing your lisp and starting a new one 16:51:10 root can become non-root with the setuid system call. But i'm not sure how non-root could ever become root, in the same running process. 16:51:40 -!- BlankVerse [~pankajm@202.3.77.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:51:55 nydel: you do realize that "becoming root" on a shell usually involves spawning at least two more processes 16:51:55 BlankVerse [~pankajm@202.3.77.238] has joined #lisp 16:52:12 you might consider spawning a new lisp process with sudo, using e.g. uiop:run-program 16:52:17 three if you're using sudo to call su, which calls another shell 16:52:36 (uiop:run-program (list "sudo" ... ) ...) 16:54:25 -!- ustunozgur [~ustunozgu@78.162.224.135] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:28 -!- antonv [5daba1b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.171.161.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:55:58 Posterdati [~kvirc@host41-231-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 16:57:55 -!- sauerkrause [~krause@cpe-24-55-25-199.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:59:09 -!- Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:5000:7910:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:59:21 eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-90-3.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 17:02:22 that does work thank you, but is there a way to bring my current interpreter to the new process, or will the new process invariably be a from-starting-point repl? 17:02:53 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:02:54 sauerkrause [~krause@cpe-24-55-25-199.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 17:03:15 Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:5000:7910:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has joined #lisp 17:03:35 Pullphinger [~Pullphing@12.40.23.68] has joined #lisp 17:04:13 -!- pellegrino [~pellegrin@2001:1af8:4010:a043:3::] has left #lisp 17:04:15 michael_lee [~michael_l@117.22.204.186] has joined #lisp 17:04:34 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@94.137.27.36] has quit [Quit: hitecnologys] 17:05:32 -!- mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:06:55 -!- michael_lee [~michael_l@117.22.204.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09:51 -!- doomlord_ [~servitor@host86-184-12-200.range86-184.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:37 x [~shai@c-98-194-2-246.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:10:54 what do you guys think of learning multiple lisp dialects at once? 17:11:04 like clojure, arc, and CL 17:11:37 is it something that would confuse me, or empower me and make me more flexible? 17:11:47 jewel [~jewel@105-236-76-28.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 17:12:20 that depends rather more on you than on anything else 17:12:27 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:13:02 right, I find having a broader scope more edifying 17:13:04 try it, see if you are confused, empowered or flexible, then report back. After about 1000 similar experiments, we'll know a bit more about the distribution of results in the population 17:13:23 Krystof :) 17:13:26 sounds good 17:14:19 x i tried learning scheme and found it frustrating at first, feeling like i've started over learning the alternate syntax etc ... but after a while, had scheme been a good language, i think i could've benefited from the contrast 17:14:35 triangulation is pretty important to learning for a lot of people 17:15:11 nydel, yeah the contrast really helps me nail concepts. 17:15:35 it also keeps things new and exciting. Sometimes your brain has an itch for a certain syntax! 17:15:37 foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has joined #lisp 17:16:07 x: you don't happen to be autistic do you? i am, is why i ask. i have trouble learning things if i don't have a second thing to compare the first one to. 17:16:42 I am not autistic, but I think I learn better when I have a lot of things occupying my brain 17:17:00 to compare and bounce off of 17:17:25 yes, bouncy bouncy fun time! love it 17:17:28 i would rather have a bunch of different programming languages that are similar than some irrelevant thing 17:17:42 nydel, awesome man. I'm glad you can find joy in your autism 17:17:46 its a strength for you 17:18:04 cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has joined #lisp 17:18:45 -!- baboon` [~user@188.73.8.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:19:08 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 17:19:09 there are some things i can do well and others not so much. #lisp i think of as one of the most autistic-friendly places in internet kingdom. people are always so helpful when i can't grasp something and find a way to get me on track. 17:19:19 -!- a_functionalist [~rosenblat@d110090.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:19:52 x: not to keep you if you're busy, but i'm curious as to for what you use lisp? 17:21:14 nydel, your not keeping me busy, I enjoy fruitful converstations. I use lisp to explore programming 17:21:33 it also helps me think 17:22:04 I enjoy entertaining abstract thoughts and attempt to model them through various data types in lisp 17:23:01 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 17:23:26 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-90-3.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:23:49 -!- download [~user@dhcp206.hpc.unm.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:23:53 I am also hoping to do some serious web development with clojure/clojurescript which is a dialect of lisp 17:23:54 it helps me think as well, i love it for that. lambda calculus, and the way that lisp macros work, etc have granted me much clarity in otherwise-inaccessible lofty thought realms. 17:24:26 i am doing web mostly at this point in time. i don't know about clojure much, but i have had a lot of success with hunchentoot 17:25:02 mgile [~mgile@216-98-195-98.static.forethought.net] has joined #lisp 17:25:07 that sounds awesome. I love how many options lisp has. It feels like home, regardless of the dialect 17:25:22 tianyu [~user@125.39.117.34] has joined #lisp 17:25:33 CL and Clojure's community definitely makes the dev process more encouraging 17:25:56 nydel: "tricking the universe with macrolet" :) 17:25:58 I've been playing around with weblocks; it certainly has an interesting approach to web applications 17:27:11 x: I find CL and Clojure to have very different communities, but they do share a certain je ne sais quoi 17:27:53 perhaps an unusual mix of "get it done" and "get it done Right" 17:28:18 -!- mgile [~mgile@216-98-195-98.static.forethought.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:28:22 CL has the underground quiet vibe, Clojure has a mainstream essence, yet I find both communities helpful and enjoyable 17:28:29 -!- KaiQ [~localhost@p5DD9F2F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28:47 sometimes our moods dictate diversity 17:28:59 boogie [~boogie@wsip-98-172-168-236.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 17:31:17 -!- tianyu [~user@125.39.117.34] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:31:29 :) 17:31:47 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-187-30.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:32:07 a_functionalist [~rosenblat@d110090.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #lisp 17:32:48 i quit porn for lisp 17:32:54 its worth it 17:33:37 -!- ogamita [~t@tru75-h02-31-38-72-69.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:34:08 haha that's wonderful 17:34:37 there's much better lisp content in the www than pornographic anyhow 17:35:21 tianyu [~user@125.39.117.34] has joined #lisp 17:35:48 -!- teggi [~teggi@123.21.195.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:35:56 slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.5.107] has joined #lisp 17:36:41 lisp programing with emacs-slime. when I test (analyze-profit 2000 0.05) 17:36:51 I predict you will be: RICHRICH . The last RICH should in another new line, but now it is attached on the end. what should I do? 17:37:10 nydel, so true 17:37:35 tianyu, (format) 17:38:16 there is a format function for an explicit newline, and one for an optional newline 17:38:52 there is also TERPRI 17:39:30 jangle [~jimmy1984@50.241.129.73] has joined #lisp 17:40:19 eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-90-3.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 17:44:14 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:51 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:45:10 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 17:46:02 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 17:46:21 -!- xotedend_ [~quassel@23-25-110-173-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:46:29 -!- jangle [~jimmy1984@50.241.129.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:47:59 i know format function. for example ,the code "cl-user> (format t "hello )", return " hello NIL" ----nil is on the second line.but now nil is attached with hello-----helloNIL. 17:48:21 -!- kirin` [telex@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-mheeuypofmgrmgnd] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:49:14 -!- Corvidium [~cosman246@c-24-143-118-11.customer.broadstripe.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:49:43 tianyu: NIL is the return value of the function, printed by the REPL 17:50:07 tianyu: (format t "hello~%") will display the NIL on the next line, which may be less confusing 17:50:11 The usual thing there is to print a newline 17:50:13 ^ 17:50:40 tianyu: alternately, (format nil "hello") will return the string "hello", which will then be printed by the REPL 17:51:34 -!- cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:52:02 Thanks dlowe and ggole. usual without "~%" , nil is to print on a new line. 17:52:51 No, NIL is to return a string 17:53:09 fsvehla_ [~fsvehla@h081217030130.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #lisp 17:53:11 I mean, NIL passed as an argument. 17:53:38 -!- Guest17874 is now known as xristos 17:54:04 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-54-90-3.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:54:16 -!- fsvehla [~fsvehla@h081217030130.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:54:16 -!- fsvehla_ is now known as fsvehla 17:55:52 jangle [~jimmy1984@50.241.129.73] has joined #lisp 17:58:53 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp 18:00:52 anyone here use the jwacs library to good effect, and can explain to someone who hasn't programmed in javascript before why it is useful? 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(I haven't dug into hemlock *at all* so this may be a stupid question) 19:50:23 jasom: well, forking is how git is working, right? independent branches and so on? 19:50:48 No, I meant an add-on to hemlock rather than modifying hemlock itself (like evil-mode isn't a fork of emacs) 19:50:52 -!- prxq [~mommer@x2f6d6ff.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:51:01 and I'm trying to keep as much identical as possible - currently the only change in fundamental mode is an additional key binding to switch to a normal mode. 19:51:06 -!- sellout [~Adium@97-118-116-71.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:51:18 prxq [~mommer@x2f6d6ff.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lisp 19:51:20 foeniks [~fevon@p5091F386.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 19:51:21 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:32 I'm not modifying hemlock - until now I've only added a few files, and inserted their information in the ASD. 19:51:44 so it's not a "fork" per se - merging should be trivial. 19:52:20 perhaps it will be possible (later on) to just use all the things I'm doing and put them in a .hemlock.lisp init file or something like that. 19:52:57 I needed some way to track my changes (I don't guess there'll be many upstream ones), and some way to incorporate changes from other people (which I'm hoping for). 19:53:22 Right, I was thinking you could do that with something like a system named hemlock-vim that depends on hemlock 19:53:35 yeah, possibly. 19:53:54 currently I'm using a separate package, so these things can be simply refactored later on. 19:54:23 got it 19:54:56 macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 19:56:39 right. thanks in advance for every help. 19:57:20 I'm still hoping that some emacs people are jumping on, too, so that we can stop the editor wars and live happily ever after ... ;) 19:59:28 flame_ [~flame_@unaffiliated/flame/x-0205742] has joined #lisp 19:59:49 -!- foeniks [~fevon@p5091F386.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:00:12 does it do anything at this point? 20:00:26 ah C-v to get into normal mode? 20:00:26 -!- ggole [~ggole@124-149-74-46.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 20:00:35 jangle [~jimmy1984@50.241.129.73] has joined #lisp 20:00:57 http://paste.lisp.org/display/140441 20:01:02 yes. 20:01:20 the mode is displayed. 20:01:45 would be nice if hemlock worked at all on my system. The current release seems to be completely broken 20:01:49 but there are some bugs - the TTY version only gets every 2nd keypress... 20:01:54 qt? 20:02:03 what's the problem? 20:02:07 Qt: The function HEMLOCK.QT::SX is undefined. 20:02:11 see my paste for what I'm using to start. 20:02:18 CLX: shift doesn't work 20:02:29 yeah, there are several undefined functions, but it starts for me anyway. 20:02:32 TTY: lags several keypresses behind and drops some keypresses 20:02:36 correct. 20:02:42 I'm seeing that too. 20:02:59 flip511: how do you ignore an undefined function? 20:03:02 I'm testing with QT at the moment.... don't know whether there's a chance to get them fixed upstream. 20:03:24 it's just a warning from ASDF ... just start hemlock afterwards. 20:03:38 flip511: no, this is when I run (hemlock:hemlock) 20:03:45 after I get through asdf 20:03:58 oh, ok. 20:04:04 what qt are you using? 20:04:06 version? 20:04:14 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-190-26.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:04:54 -!- paul0 [~paul0@189.115.56.217] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:04:58 4.8.5 20:05:18 ah, I'm on 4.11.3-1 20:05:22 debian testing/unstable 20:06:03 ; caught 16 WARNING conditions 20:06:03 ; caught 71 STYLE-WARNING conditions 20:06:03 ; printed 18 notes 20:06:17 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #lisp 20:06:37 I get a gajillion "Error while trying to bind key ..." errors too 20:06:38 -!- Patzy_ [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:06:38 ; caught STYLE-WARNING: 20:06:39 ; undefined function: QT::MAKE-QLIST 20:06:56 sounds like a fun editor to use :) 20:07:10 STYLE-WARNING: Undefined alien: "sw_smoke" 20:07:27 are you at 3bcdba47909695c73b18915de2edef1c0aaf5573 20:07:37 Patzy [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 20:07:47 fiveop: don't talk, just help (please!!! ;) 20:08:16 4b4ce 20:08:19 jasom: I get that too. STYLE-WARNING: Undefined alien: "sw_smoke" 20:08:39 I don't have that one 20:09:04 oops, I'm on upstream hemlock; let me switch 20:09:24 well, if upstream doesn't work for you, my changes won't help either. 20:09:32 which upstream, btw? 20:10:15 and sbcl 1.1.14? 20:10:20 gitorious 20:11:04 that would be my upstream, too... ah, 48b4cebfa - copy/paste error? 20:11:16 definitely loading yours now as I see hemlock-vim 20:11:21 and same error 20:11:28 debugger invoked on a UNDEFINED-FUNCTION in thread 20:11:34 The function HEMLOCK.QT::SX is undefined. 20:11:38 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:11:53 flip511: busy writing an orm lib :) (at work I need to work with java and hibernate, and I want that in lisp, too) 20:13:24 jasom: http://pastebin.com/Dv3xwDch describes a similar problem, but has no solution either 20:13:52 but perhaps the ioforms people know what to do to fix that? 20:14:53 doesthiswork [~Adium@98.145.118.186] has joined #lisp 20:15:33 urandom__ [~user@ip-84-119-222-57.unity-media.net] has joined #lisp 20:15:33 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:17:43 anyway -- just wanted to let you know that I'm trying to get something up and running. 20:20:16 *jasom* wishes there was a way to tell google "Search exactly for this string" 20:20:33 searching for sx gets me loads of hits on the string "sex" which isn't what I'm looking for 20:21:20 try setting the search options to safe search? 20:21:49 safe search is on, but you get e.g. irc logs where someones username is function_sex 20:22:20 use quotes: "sx" 20:22:25 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17384272/undefined-references-in-smokeqt-when-installing-commonqt says to fix the linker line 20:23:00 nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 20:23:39 I never noticed until today that I cannot incrementally add bindings to the local environment (labels takes care of the case when I'd need to). 20:23:53 flip511: not even remotely what I get. Every commonqt example I try except hemlock works 20:23:55 Incrementally? 20:23:59 Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 20:24:03 (def x blah) 20:24:18 x is now added to the enviroment 20:24:19 jasom: so, the upstream git commit does work? 20:24:27 (def doesthiswork blah) 20:24:37 woops sorry x 20:24:38 Oh. No. That's a nasty thing, anyway. 20:24:41 doesthiswork is now added to the environment 20:24:43 lol 20:24:49 In Scheme inner defines are actually syntactic sugar for a letrec. 20:24:55 flip511: no. Neither upstream nor yours works with hemlock.qt 20:25:22 hrmpf. so the best bet might be to find out why shift doesn't work with clx. 20:25:54 bike: I've been thinking for 5 minutes and I don't have a need for them but I don't see why they'd be so bad 20:26:21 Or maybe I'll just port hemlock to ltk 20:26:29 they make lexical analysis that much more complicated 20:27:42 how? all it means is that local functions can make forward references 20:28:44 er, are you confusing this with recursive groups of bindings like labels does? 20:29:06 I don't think so 20:31:02 well, if you're making the bindings retroactively effective, that means a compiler has to check for defining forms in all bodies to resolve what a name is supposed to point to 20:31:31 only in the lexically enclosing body 20:31:41 hiato [~hiato@196-215-121-135.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 20:33:14 and what about say (loop (def ...))? now you have to have loop be lexically enclosing so that the def is local to it 20:33:41 (lambda () (defun f1 () (f2 3)) (defun f2 (a) (defun f3 (b) + (b 4)) (f3 a))) 20:33:55 f3 wouldn't be visable from within f2 20:34:33 the hell? 20:36:16 is loop already lexically enclosing? 20:37:07 'lexically enclosing' is a concept that only exists for this 20:38:02 pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 20:38:48 -!- pnpuff [~harmonic@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 20:38:50 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ejohnson] 20:40:08 I'm looking it because I thought it was a standard phrase 20:40:18 looking it up 20:41:08 essentially i was thinking it would be analogous to declaration scope in say C, where for example variables declared in the body of a for are limited to the scope of that body. 20:41:15 in lisp we just have things like let with body forms. 20:41:36 yes except at the top level 20:42:10 things like defun establish bindings only in the global environment, so no issue. 20:43:32 -!- malbertife [~malbertif@host228-15-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #lisp 20:43:33 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44:07 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 20:46:07 malbertife [~malbertif@host228-15-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 20:47:01 I was reading "the art of the interpreter" and I was surprised that they treated the global environment differently than local. Because my mental model had always been that if def was used in a local environment it add/modify bindings in that local environment. 20:47:25 and yes loop would have to be lexically enclosing 20:47:41 And you would have to add the concept of 'lexically enclosing' at all. 20:48:19 I thought lexical scope already brought that concept 20:48:38 doesthiswork, defun is defined to modify the function cell of your naming symbol in the global environment. 20:49:07 No, because there are no local definitions in the way you're discussing. Things like simple loop don't have to do any lexical scope. 20:49:14 leoc [~leoc.git@p5DDB8EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 20:50:05 quasus [~stanislav@bl6-188-249.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 20:50:14 -!- knob [~knob@76.76.202.245] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:50:39 doesthiswork, and your example should work, if you move ``+'' to the ``b 4'' list. 20:51:02 -!- rudi [~rudi@cm-84.215.158.89.getinternet.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:13 rudi [~rudi@cm-84.215.158.89.getinternet.no] has joined #lisp 20:51:35 Alfr_: Thanks, I hadn't seen the type 20:51:45 typo 20:52:01 o the irony 20:52:46 bike: the bindings within a loop aren't accessible from outside of it 20:52:52 sdemarre [~serge@205.148-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #lisp 20:52:56 I'm talking about the simple loop. 20:53:26 -!- EvW [~Thunderbi@2001:981:5f09:1:adf0:bdfc:2785:add4] has quit [Quit: EvW] 20:54:02 which is essentially (tagbody start ..forms.. (go start)) which has no bindings. But with your regimen this has to have its own scope. 20:54:52 -!- milosn_ [~milosn@user-5af50bce.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56:47 regimen is a good word, It would be too confusing if I called it a scheme 20:56:52 -!- x [~shai@c-98-194-2-246.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:56:56 EvW [~Thunderbi@2001:981:5f09:1:a98a:d1f1:2f3b:6559] has joined #lisp 20:57:02 milosn [~milosn@user-5af5008c.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #lisp 20:58:41 kallikanzarid [~kallikanz@199-193-117-84.static.hvvc.us] has joined #lisp 20:58:44 hi all 20:58:55 is there an online s-expression visualizer? 20:59:17 or some linux tool that plots trees from s-expressions? 20:59:35 somewhere in pjb's programs is something that draws pictures of sexps 20:59:39 or well, conses 21:00:21 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 21:00:50 joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #lisp 21:00:59 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:03 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.134.11] has quit [Quit: post-restore logout] 21:04:49 thanks, I think I'll just reformat data as XML :) 21:05:45 mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.134.11] has joined #lisp 21:06:16 -!- nydel [nydel@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-stczyolpswnxnbpo] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:06:31 -!- kallikanzarid [~kallikanz@199-193-117-84.static.hvvc.us] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09:29 -!- ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-236-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:10:29 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 21:10:48 -!- cgore [~cgore@cgore.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:54 cgore [~cgore@cgore.com] has joined #lisp 21:12:02 -!- arenz [~arenz@37.17.234.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:13:27 sheilong [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has joined #lisp 21:16:24 marko-v [~user@cable-24-135-79-207.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined #lisp 21:16:24 -!- marko-v [~user@cable-24-135-79-207.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Changing host] 21:16:24 marko-v [~user@unaffiliated/marko-v] has joined #lisp 21:16:30 -!- Pullphinger [~Pullphing@12.40.23.68] has quit [] 21:18:05 nug700_ [~nug700@71-35-73-10.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 21:18:26 -!- rudi [~rudi@cm-84.215.158.89.getinternet.no] has quit [Quit: Client exciting.] 21:18:35 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:20:41 -!- nug700 [~nug700@71-35-73-10.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:23:01 -!- TDog [~chatzilla@65.129.149.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:23:49 nug700 [~nug700@71-35-59-69.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 21:25:01 -!- nug700_ [~nug700@71-35-73-10.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:25:47 scoofy [scoofy@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #lisp 21:26:13 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ejohnson] 21:27:39 sellout- [~Adium@c-67-176-56-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:28:04 musicalchair [~musicalch@192.241.203.74] has joined #lisp 21:28:27 -!- nug700 [~nug700@71-35-59-69.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:29:53 francogrex [~user@91.182.181.3] has joined #lisp 21:30:31 -!- alezost [~user@128-70-196-108.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:30:52 I am proud of my first contribution to rosetta code http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Hash_join (after some hassel nonetheless)... 21:33:28 nice, gentle intro is out in print again. 21:34:13 in print? Amazing. Surely that has to mean something. 21:35:24 -!- prip_ [~foo@host140-135-dynamic.42-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:35:37 revised, too. 21:35:46 felideon: Yeah, got mine already. 21:35:56 felideon: Nice and simple. 21:36:07 Perl 6 is fun, too. 21:41:37 hiyosi_ [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #lisp 21:42:28 -!- fiveop [~fiveop@p5DDC42B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: humhum] 21:42:46 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:43:20 -!- malbertife [~malbertif@host228-15-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:46:15 -!- hiyosi_ [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:46:58 prip_ [~foo@95.234.125.126] has joined #lisp 21:47:07 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:52:04 -!- dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:59:19 a_functionalist [~rosenblat@d110090.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #lisp 21:59:32 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:01:30 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.147.183.3] has joined #lisp 22:03:25 nug700 [~nug700@71-35-59-69.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 22:03:50 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:04:26 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@50-196-148-101-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:05:38 -!- sdemarre [~serge@205.148-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:06:22 ASau` [~user@p5083DB38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 22:07:30 -!- gigetoo [~gigetoo@c83-250-61-4.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:54 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:08:04 cjwelborn [cjwelborn@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-wvbjdanjybtraeku] has joined #lisp 22:08:16 gigetoo [~gigetoo@c83-250-61-4.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 22:09:14 From what I hear there are different versions of lisp (like a lot of languages I guess), what would be the best to work with if I wanted to learn lisp? Is common-lisp the most commonly used? 22:09:25 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFF529.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:10:04 cjwelborn: Do you have any particular things you want to accomplish with it? 22:10:12 dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #lisp 22:10:44 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-178-202-201-114.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:10:58 cjwelborn: yes, Common Lisp is the most common lisp. 22:11:00 sellout-: no, just learning about lisp really. I wanna download a compiler/interpreter (don't know how lisp works) and start reading and messing around. I already know a couple of languages, but from what I've also heard, lisp is an enlightening experience 22:11:22 -!- Kaisyu [~Kaisyu@183.109.111.173] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:11:34 hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-178-202-201-114.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #lisp 22:11:37 You may start learning Common Lisp, and then you'll be able to easily adapt to any lisp you have to use, be it emacs lisp, scheme, clojure, whatever. 22:11:50 I read the topic after I asked that question, sorry about that. I can easily get common-lisp on my linux machine (already in the package repo). 22:12:23 so common-lisp it is, thanks sellout-/pjb. 22:13:28 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #lisp 22:14:04 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:15:22 -!- Posterdati [~kvirc@host41-231-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:16:02 cjwelborn: Well, if you intend on installing a package, you'll have to choose an implementation of Common Lisp. 22:16:16 cjwelborn: http://www.mohiji.org/2011/01/31/modern-common-lisp-on-linux/ 22:16:22 cjwelborn: There are numerous, sbcl would be recommended on linux. 22:16:24 that might be a good place to start 22:16:32 Not sure. 22:17:00 thanks, i'll look into it. I'm reading the link now. 22:18:15 cjwelborn: Yeah, except that for most distros it makes sense to install both emacs and sbcl from your repos. 22:18:28 cjwelborn: Then proceed with quicklisp and integration according to thte tutorial. 22:18:35 k 22:18:47 frx [~frx@93-141-49-24.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 22:19:02 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@ip-178-202-201-114.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:20:30 -!- ianmcorvidae [~ianmcorvi@musicbrainz/user/ianmcorvidae] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:30 ianmcorvidae [~ianmcorvi@ip68-99-254-231.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 22:20:40 antoszka: installing your distro's lisp sometimes causes issues. on Linux i use my distro's emacs, if i recall, but i always download the latest lisp i want to use (SBCL, CCL, CLISP) 22:21:15 DataLinkDroid: Agree that it depends on the distro, but I hadn't had issues on Gentoo (lisp overlay), Debian, Ubuntu and probably Fedora. 22:22:17 -!- kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:23:11 kpreid [~kpreid@50-196-148-101-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 22:23:22 Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 22:23:29 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:41 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:24:02 -!- add^_ [~user@m176-70-201-196.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:27:40 the article i linked to is a couple of years old, but there is a good reason the author recommends downloading and installing the latest lisp and not to use the one that comes in Debian/Ubuntu (the distro he was using). 22:29:18 -!- Yanez [~Thunderbi@159.178.28.52] has quit [Quit: Yanez] 22:29:47 Shrug, the distro lisps seem to work okay for me too. For my main work project, we use a custom sbcl near head, because we want the changes, but for other tinkering I do, I just use the sbcl that comes with my distro. 22:30:46 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:33:14 -!- leoc [~leoc.git@p5DDB8EB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:33:15 one thing is that Debian distros used to come with CLC (Common Lisp Controller) which was a good idea but a monstrosity in practice. so besides getting an ancient lisp version, one would also have to fight CLC. 22:33:28 things could have improved in the past couple of years, who knows? 22:34:28 francis_wolke [~user@c-98-207-155-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:34:31 CLC is gone, for one thing 22:35:03 (since asdf improvements removed the need for it) 22:35:48 Yeah, it's gone. 22:35:59 New sbcls from Ubuntu work as you'd mostly expect them to. 22:37:21 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:28 haz1 [~haz@97e08519.skybroadband.com] has joined #lisp 22:39:58 -!- strobegen [~Adium@188.168.72.225] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:41:54 -!- marko-v [~user@unaffiliated/marko-v] has left #lisp 22:42:13 hiyosi_ [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has joined #lisp 22:45:03 -!- francogrex [~user@91.182.181.3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:57 -!- fortitude [~mts@rrcs-24-97-165-124.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:47:02 -!- hiyosi_ [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:47:07 -!- fsvehla [~fsvehla@h081217030130.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Quit: fsvehla] 22:47:47 -!- alexherbo2 [~alexherbo@APlessis-Bouchard-154-1-94-197.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3-dev] 22:51:26 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:51:48 Posterdati [~kvirc@host41-231-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 22:55:14 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 22:55:21 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:56:36 cory786 [~cory@adsl-75-22-101-128.dsl.bumttx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 22:59:40 _tca [uid17279@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmlwnandxretboqb] has joined #lisp 23:00:27 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-67-176-56-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:04:54 -!- drdo [~drdo@2a02:2498:e000:20::16f:2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:05:56 drdo [~drdo@2a02:2498:e000:20::16f:2] has joined #lisp 23:06:14 -!- cory786 [~cory@adsl-75-22-101-128.dsl.bumttx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:08:05 -!- Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:09:28 -!- jangle [~jimmy1984@50.241.129.73] has quit [Quit: jangle] 23:12:54 slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-92.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 23:16:19 -!- LiamH [~healy@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:18:50 -!- lman [~lman@unaffiliated/lman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:22:13 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:24:48 malbertife [~malbertif@host228-15-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 23:28:51 -!- Posterdati [~kvirc@host41-231-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:29:23 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:30:17 Posterdati [~kvirc@host41-231-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 23:32:14 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:33:30 -!- malbertife [~malbertif@host228-15-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:35:13 davazp [~user@12.Red-83-55-79.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 23:38:20 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 23:38:30 -!- a_functionalist [~rosenblat@d110090.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:40:47 -!- Code_Man` [~Code_Man@2a02:1205:5000:7910:223:54ff:fe38:82c2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:21 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:44:59 Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 23:47:31 -!- Ethan- [~Ethan-@60-248-176-37.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:59 -!- francis_wolke [~user@c-98-207-155-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:54 Hi, anyone uses slimv? I'm getting annoyed by its indentation, but I see no way to customize it. Probably it isn't customizable... 23:58:06 -!- Kabaka [kabaka@botters/kabaka] has quit [Quit: s/Kabaka//] 23:58:29 -!- duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59:08 duggiefresh [~duggiefre@64.119.141.126] has joined #lisp