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your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 15:36:57 -!- nialo- [~yaaic@66-87-116-124.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 15:39:06 -!- motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39:07 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 15:42:11 sellout [~Adium@c-71-56-237-72.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:42:57 normanrichards [~textual@cpe-24-27-51-104.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 15:43:22 -!- stardiviner [~numbchild@120.199.210.235] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:25 mvilleneuve_ [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 15:47:30 -!- mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:48:02 -!- ism [~ism@p4FCD4180.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 15:48:14 -!- normanrichards [~textual@cpe-24-27-51-104.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:48:53 -!- Kruppe [~jcp@laforge.cs.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 15:50:17 Kruppe [~jcp@laforge.cs.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #lisp 15:53:27 -!- Shinmera [~linus@public-docking-pat-etx-mapped-0014.ethz.ch] has quit [Quit: BBL] 15:54:14 -!- antgreen [~green@dsl-173-206-82-201.tor.primus.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:54:45 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:56:12 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:03 -!- francis_wolke [~user@c-98-207-155-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:56 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@46.233.212.95] has quit [Quit: hitecnologys] 15:57:57 _zxq9_ [~ceverett@209.119.94.254] has joined #lisp 15:59:35 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 15:59:53 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:01 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #lisp 16:00:37 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@220-134-193-4.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:01:17 CatMtKing [~CatMtKing@ed-uluka.dyn.ucr.edu] has joined #lisp 16:01:23 -!- zxq9 [~ceverett@209.119.94.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:02:52 -!- zickzackv [~faot@port-92-198-30-130.static.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:06:51 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:07:25 I want to FORMAT an ALIST, but ~:{ doesn't seem to work with ~^ well. 16:07:30 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:07:37 -!- eMBee [~eMBee@foresight/developer/pike/programmer] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:07:46 eMBee [~eMBee@foresight/developer/pike/programmer] has joined #lisp 16:07:51 IOW, (format nil "~:{~(~a~)=~s~^, ~}" '((a 1) (b 2))) gives "a=1b=2" because the sublist has already ended. 16:08:19 (yes, I know ALIST is dotted, but that's not relevant here.) 16:08:22 -!- kaygun [~kaygun@193.255.85.113] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:08:27 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 16:08:38 (format nil "~{~{~(~a~)=~s~}~^, ~}" '((a 1) (b 2))) 16:09:52 stassats: thanks, just found the stackoverflow post with that. 16:10:45 i bet stackoverflow doesn't know about (format nil "~:{~(~a~)=~s~:^, ~}" '((a 1) (b 2))) 16:10:57 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has joined #lisp 16:11:02 billstclair [~billstcla@p-74-209-20-135.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has joined #lisp 16:11:02 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@p-74-209-20-135.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has quit [Changing host] 16:11:02 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #lisp 16:11:33 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1263775/how-might-i-format-an-alist-in-common-lisp 16:12:26 terrible-terrible! 16:13:55 the last one is nearly your solution ... but in case you're relieved, I actually copy+pasted _your_ line from here!! 16:14:37 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:41 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:18:18 -!- michael_lee [~michael_l@113.139.51.73] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:18:19 mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has joined #lisp 16:21:56 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-103.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:22:00 ~:{ for alists and ~@{ for plists it seems 16:22:07 well not actually alists anyways 16:24:53 optikalmouse [~omouse@69-165-245-60.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 16:26:16 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-103.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 16:27:29 ~{ for plists 16:28:21 jangle [~jimmy1984@50.241.129.73] has joined #lisp 16:28:30 well not if you want to separate keys and values? 16:28:53 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:29:06 ~a ~a 16:29:40 (format nil "~{~a ~a~^, ~}" '(:a 1 :b 2)) 16:29:42 oh(format nil "~@{~a set to ~a~^, ~}" :a 1 :b 2 :c 3) 16:29:57 (format nil "~{~a set to ~a~^, ~}" '(:a 1 :b 2 :c 3)) 16:30:06 I was confused again 16:31:00 it might be that what I enjoy the most about CL is the confusion it creates in my brains ;-) 16:31:47 -!- Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:32:14 Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 16:41:31 -!- vaporatorius is now known as Vaporatorius 16:46:16 kaygun_ [~kaygun@78.180.237.103] has joined #lisp 16:47:44 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 16:48:02 -!- Stygia [~gmpsaifi@193.104.83.223] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:48:20 -!- zeebrah [~zeebrah@unaffiliated/zeebrah] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:49:56 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 16:50:14 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:50:29 -!- hugod [~user@69.157.170.213] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:51:11 bulibuta [~bulibuta@irofti.net] has joined #lisp 16:51:11 hugod [~user@69.157.170.213] has joined #lisp 16:51:45 -!- bulibuta [~bulibuta@irofti.net] has left #lisp 16:52:33 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 16:54:49 nipra [~nipra@122.177.162.169] has joined #lisp 16:59:10 Davidbrcz [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 17:02:56 levenson [~user@broadband-95-84-129-236.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #lisp 17:03:32 -!- kaygun_ [~kaygun@78.180.237.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:04:06 -!- Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:06:39 -!- unnaturalism [~antiproje@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:07:55 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #lisp 17:08:02 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:07 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@5.251.242.95] has joined #lisp 17:08:08 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@5.251.242.95] has quit [Changing host] 17:08:08 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 17:09:45 francis_wolke [~user@c-98-207-155-161.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:09:51 unnaturalism [~Myrianida@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has joined #lisp 17:12:07 -!- mvilleneuve_ [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:12:19 Joreji [~thomas@157-103.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 17:12:59 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@105-237-71-197.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:16:05 yvdriess [~yvdriess@soft86.vub.ac.be] has joined #lisp 17:17:33 -!- yvdriess [~yvdriess@soft86.vub.ac.be] has quit [Client Quit] 17:21:21 -!- tatsushiko [~user@188.165.96.106] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:22:11 nialo- [~yaaic@66-87-116-124.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #lisp 17:22:46 -!- levenson [~user@broadband-95-84-129-236.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:23:36 levenson [~user@broadband-95-84-129-236.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #lisp 17:23:59 hi, is there a good reason to use webserver in front of hunchentoot really? 17:24:23 people say to serve binary files, but what if they need permissioning on application level? 17:24:34 it certainly makes things more complex 17:24:48 so maybe if it aint broken dont fix it? 17:25:01 it depends on how much load you want to be able to consume. 17:25:02 it makes things way better 17:25:16 i never found serving files with hunchentoot to be easy 17:25:22 for small stuff hunchentoot alone is fine 17:26:19 in what ways a server like nginx can make the whole setup handle more load? 17:26:32 otherwise you want to put a caching proxy in front of it and serve static files from a different domain 17:26:34 puchacz: it can cache responses. 17:26:38 by buffering output? 17:27:36 and hunchentoot blocks all the way (acceptor, session etc) rather than letting me fire response and forget? 17:27:54 I use nginx in front hunchentoot to server the static files (images, js, CSS, etc) and hunchentoot only serves up the html. This keeps hunchentoot free to do what it does best and server dynamic content and leaves nginx to do what it does best an serve static content. 17:29:07 Server == serve (dang iphone autocorrect) 17:29:12 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-52-176.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:29:52 I have an all-embedded usage of hunchentoot where I have this self-contained binary image offering a web controler UI, and managed to load all the static files in the memory of the image and hunchentoot is serving that 17:30:17 dim, and no reverse proxy in front of it? 17:30:22 ./foo.exe and that's all you need for the full app, including web service and static files (including bootstrap, d3js, etc) 17:30:24 puchacz: none 17:30:45 it's meant for a couple of admins controling a process that will run for a couple of months 17:30:57 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:31:07 I see 17:31:12 they have nice graphs to see if it's all going as planed, and to be able to guesstimate how long it's going to run 17:31:50 that said, afk now 17:32:12 I found hunchentoot really slow for static stuff + dynamic html generation. Guess depends on needs. But setting up nginx in front of hunchentoot only takes me like 5 minutes so I pretty much do it regardless. 17:32:45 for "production" service I've been building a static website compiler ;-) 17:33:16 tapoueh.org runs with hunchentoot on devel but I then build static files and push them so as to avoid any load problem or what 17:33:36 is that why it doesn't have comments? 17:33:39 ok, I will put nginx then 17:36:13 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-160-254.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 17:37:45 -!- shridhar [Shridhar@nat/redhat/x-ypeqdtrgpoozowxp] has quit [Quit: shridhar] 17:39:15 kaygun_ [~kaygun@78.180.97.71] has joined #lisp 17:41:37 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 17:44:21 -!- therik [~therik@164.215.13.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:44:28 -!- CatMtKing [~CatMtKing@ed-uluka.dyn.ucr.edu] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:45:15 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 17:46:10 kristof [~kristof@unaffiliated/kristof] has joined #lisp 17:47:58 haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has joined #lisp 17:48:35 CatMtKing [~CatMtKing@ed-uluka.dyn.ucr.edu] has joined #lisp 17:49:51 -!- copyninja [~kakashi@146.185.137.224] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:54:58 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55:16 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 17:55:48 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 17:56:08 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 17:56:27 ivan-kanis [~user@lns-c10k-ft-02-t2-89-83-137-164.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lisp 17:56:46 how do I access to a symbol value via it's name as a string? 17:57:27 ivan-kanis: find-symbol? 17:57:41 (symbol-value (find-symbol ...)), particularly 17:57:43 (symbol-value (intern name)) 17:59:45 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:00:32 thanks all 18:00:39 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 18:01:39 Let Over Lambda proposes a lot of interesting arguments 18:01:57 scampbell [~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net] has joined #lisp 18:02:06 therik [~therik@164.215.13.231] has joined #lisp 18:02:12 I know it's mostly a macro-writing book but he weaves all these philosophical points in there 18:02:58 I am getting an error 18:03:05 (symbol-value (find-symbol "*user*")) 18:03:21 There's no *|user|* symbol. 18:03:24 The variable |*user*| is unbound. 18:03:37 I have a global *user* 18:03:41 -!- jasom_ is now known as jasom 18:03:51 And as annoying as his zealotry for the language is, he's rarely unjustified when he says something. I was particularly surprised at reading him call Lisp-1 a "deficiency" because it makes macro-writing harder, when I had always thought that Lisp-2 status was simply a backwards-compatible implementation detail that was otherwise not beneficial. 18:03:53 ivan-kanis: http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/02_b.htm point 7. 18:04:26 ivan-kanis: you have a global named *USER*, not *|user|*. 18:05:06 pjb: I need to escape * in some fashion? 18:05:24 You need to read http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/02_b.htm point 7 and ponder the implications. 18:05:26 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05:45 lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has joined #lisp 18:05:52 *ivan-kanis* ponders 18:05:57 and follow links, such as http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/23_ab.htm 18:07:10 Case insensitivity is a bitch. 18:07:22 I see 18:07:36 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08:29 case insensitivity of symbols I am sure is an artefact of old lisp 18:11:12 -!- scampbell [~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:11:14 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 18:11:33 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 18:12:25 No, symbols ARE CASE SENSITIVE! 18:12:29 symbol names. 18:12:35 -!- sjl- is now known as sjl 18:12:46 (assert (not (eq (intern "hello") (intern "HELLO")))) means case sensitivity! 18:13:14 What's a bitch, is that (readtable-case (copy-readtable nil)) is :upcase by default, instead of :preserve. 18:13:48 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:14:25 so (eq :hello :HELLO) depends on the readtable 18:14:32 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 18:14:45 sz0 [~sz@208.72.139.54] has joined #lisp 18:15:54 kristof: Lisp-2 only makes macro-writing easier if you don't use flet in your macros... Having symbols with the same name that aren't the same is what makes macro writing easier 18:16:52 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.119.93.169] has quit [Quit: bed] 18:17:02 -!- hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:19:50 fortitude [~mts@rrcs-24-97-165-124.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:22:58 jasom: exactly. 18:23:34 any network freaks around, with experience? someone's probably trying to hack me, but it makes very little sense to me 18:23:41 (|EQ| :|hello| :|HELLO|) is somehow unequivocal (there could still be a readtable with funny reader macros, be it on #\( or #\| ). 18:26:12 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:27:13 STilda [~kvirc@188.162.166.21] has joined #lisp 18:28:45 cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has joined #lisp 18:29:34 Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has joined #lisp 18:31:42 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has quit [Quit: (save-lisp-and-die)] 18:32:02 mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] 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It took me a while to figure out that my strings were reading differently because of a set-macro-character on #\\, and why that should change the way strings are read. 22:49:45 -!- kobain [~sambio@unaffiliated/kobain] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:50:47 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 22:51:58 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:52:14 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:09 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:53:22 -!- l_ [~no4@84.233.246.170] has left #lisp 22:53:27 slarti [~anonymous@67.142.235.252] has joined #lisp 22:55:35 -!- nenorbot [~ronen@IGLD-84-228-66-76.inter.net.il] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:55:36 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:55:55 -!- fortitude [~mts@rrcs-24-97-165-124.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:56:26 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:56:58 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:57:25 -!- mc40 [~mcheema@146.255.107.122] has quit [Quit: mc40] 22:58:23 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:59:30 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 23:00:07 -!- sellout [~Adium@ip-64-134-230-136.public.wayport.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:00:21 -!- nipra [~nipra@122.177.162.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:00:43 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:04:01 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 23:07:26 -!- desophos [~desophos@cpe-23-240-149-52.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:04 jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-114-190.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:11:03 -!- Slowpoke_Man is now known as BlastHardcheese 23:11:21 Code_Man` [~Code_Man@227-191.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #lisp 23:15:41 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-198-255-198-157.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:16:45 -!- Stygia [~gmpsaifi@109.56.169.85.mobile.3.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:11 -!- haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:22:12 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZzzZ] 23:23:23 -!- kaygun_ [~kaygun@78.180.97.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 23:24:28 desophos [~desophos@cpe-23-240-149-52.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 23:26:24 Vivitron: That should not change the way strings are read. 23:27:03 "Hello\ World\\!" would read the same whatever the reader macro on #\\ as long as the standard reader macro on #\" is installed. 23:27:05 -!- LiamH [~healy@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:28:51 pjb: Strings use any character with syntax type single escape as an escape, but syntax type macro-character is _exclusive_ to syntax type single escape! 23:31:06 Surprising, no? But it's well specified. 23:32:15 dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #lisp 23:37:28 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:42:30 haxx [~Rob@135.23.80.105] has joined #lisp 23:43:51 antgreen [~green@dsl-173-206-82-201.tor.primus.ca] has joined #lisp 23:45:44 -!- trof [~trof@86.57.185.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:47:02 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:50:29 sheilong [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has joined #lisp 23:53:14 how hard is it to decompile a lisp app? 23:53:25 sbcl specifically 23:53:49 ^I'm curious about this, myself. 23:54:15 I know one can call save-lisp-and-die, but does one find that the resulting binary works on other machines? 23:54:33 samskulls: platform specific 23:54:38 It sounds like you two aren't asking the same question 23:54:48 ...and you said "decompile". I can't read, sorry. 23:55:30 save-lisp-and-die 23:55:42 Eventually. 23:55:56 for say distribution purposes, how secure is it? or is it pretty easy to deconstruct/decompile? 23:56:02 It's probably somewhat easier than decompiling a C app. 23:56:14 because all function names are there for you 23:56:20 seangrove [~user@64.sub-70-197-19.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 23:56:28 and the compiler may not generate quite as optimal code as a C compiler 23:57:17 -!- jangle [~jimmy1984@50.241.129.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:59:40 Sgeo [~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp