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Now it takes .5s 00:43:48 much better 00:44:42 hm, i think there was another person who dealt with this once 00:44:53 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:45:11 hi there, is there a (clever way) to sort a list by the result of a method applied to each element? (the method needs another argument other than the elements, so it's not straight-forward predicate) 00:45:17 -!- EvW [~Thunderbi@a82-92-190-215.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:45:20 http://www.advogato.org/person/crhodes/diary/160.html for gfs in general though 00:45:28 Elvaron: :key 00:46:25 can you give me an example? 00:46:35 EvW [~Thunderbi@a82-92-190-215.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 00:46:52 -!- hlavaty [~user@friedrichstrasse.knowledgetools.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:47:44 dont see :key in clhs 00:49:21 Elvaron: (sort (list '(4 . a) '(7 . b) '(5 . c)) #'< :key #'car) 00:50:15 i was looking for something like (sort (list 1 2 3 4) #'< #'(+ 3)) if that makes sense 00:50:17 jasom: notinline will stop caching entirely, so if you can make the constructors before deployment as you mentioned that would probably be better overall 00:50:20 Bike: which gf do I want to precompile for constructors? 00:50:29 or is that the same and i'm just blind? 00:50:35 jasom: make-instance, but it has a different caching mechanism 00:50:38 lemoinem [~swoog@72.53.108.73] has joined #lisp 00:50:43 Elvaron: :key (lambda (x) (+ x 3)) 00:51:11 though i assume your actual function is more complicated than adding three. that's monotonic so you don't need it. 00:51:18 aye. 00:51:31 your assumption is correct :P 00:51:38 -!- sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:52:17 works perfectly, thx 00:52:54 jasom: you can see how make-instance works by compiler macroexpanding a make-instance call (which is the same as regular macroexpansion in slime). pre-calling sb-pcl::ensure-ctor might work but i am not sure. 00:53:47 Bike: my GUI is partly based upon run-time data so it's non-trivial to just create it once before sving the image 00:53:52 sheilong [~sabayonus@unaffiliated/sheilong] has joined #lisp 00:54:41 well, sb-pcl::ensure-ctor doesn't need to know argument values for make-instance, just the class name and what keys are used 00:57:53 jack_rabbit [~jack_rabb@c-98-253-60-75.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 01:00:31 it looks like sb-pcl::optimizing-generator doesn't add the ctor to the global list of ctors (so #'precompile-ctors doesn't pick it up) 01:05:49 stardiviner [~stardivin@112.10.8.217] has joined #lisp 01:07:09 hydan` [~user@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lisp 01:08:23 seg [~seg@fsf/member/seg] has joined #lisp 01:09:01 -!- hydan [~user@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:12:16 Bike: doesn't seem to work, though I may be calling it wrong 01:12:49 -!- guyal [~anonymous@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: The Sleeper has Asleepen] 01:14:49 guyal [~anonymous@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 01:16:24 -!- seg [~seg@fsf/member/seg] has quit [Quit: adios amigos] 01:23:23 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 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Was trying to get cl-split-sequence to work and I didn't realize that cl-utilities existed. 06:22:13 sfa [~sfa@208.66.156.12] has joined #lisp 06:22:56 -!- Sgeo [~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:23:15 Oh, the last update was 7 years ago. ...might still work 06:23:27 zpr [1000@205.204.17.127] has joined #lisp 06:23:29 stardiviner [~stardivin@112.10.8.217] has joined #lisp 06:24:22 hello. i am trying to structure a command and i need it to work on atoms. basically my output is something like: (myfun a1 a2), and i need it to be (myfun 'a1 'a2) 06:24:43 how can i insert the quote operator? something like (list '' 'a1) is what i'm going for 06:24:51 -!- arquebus [~frath@c-107-3-164-239.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:25:19 BrianRice [~water@c-24-18-219-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 06:25:23 (list 'quote 'a1) => (quote a1) = 'a1 06:27:24 kirin` [telex@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-afzeneoihnsxosym] has joined #lisp 06:27:28 Bike: thanks 06:33:35 STilda [~kvirc@188.231.185.121] has joined #lisp 06:34:38 malbertife [~malbertif@host164-54-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 06:35:37 ccorn [~ccorn@92.110.20.203] has joined #lisp 06:42:28 -!- k0001 [~k0001@host92.181-1-203.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:45:27 -!- motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46:40 schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-006-107.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 06:47:02 motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has joined #lisp 06:47:59 mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has joined #lisp 06:47:59 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has quit [Changing host] 06:47:59 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 06:52:25 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@92.110.20.203] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 06:53:04 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 06:53:51 harish_ [harish@nat/redhat/x-poaldsbntcrnhmcw] has joined #lisp 06:55:48 Hi, How do I iterate through elements of an array in a nice way? 06:56:18 xificurC [xificurC@nat/ibm/x-vcksqxoxcmubzypb] has joined #lisp 06:57:41 -!- Natch [~Natch@c-cdcee155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:58:09 p_nathan [~Adium@174-21-83-115.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 07:00:23 Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5DD9F9D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 07:02:34 clhs loop 07:02:34 http://www.lispworks.com/reference/HyperSpec/Body/m_loop.htm 07:03:28 STilda: loop or map 07:04:16 hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 07:08:15 can not find how to write it in the form like dolist provide. Is there a way to do it? 07:08:57 STilda: dotimes and aref (could write your own macro for this) 07:09:07 map? 07:09:21 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@183.12.37.84] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10:03 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:10:07 good, I see 07:10:15 prxq [~mommer@x2f6b5ad.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lisp 07:10:31 map is not my choice, I do not need resulting sequence 07:10:34 -!- kristof [~kristof@unaffiliated/kristof] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:10:42 thanks 07:10:52 STilda: (map nil ...) 07:11:58 mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has joined #lisp 07:12:24 Bike: wau, that works! thak you! 07:13:16 -!- drmeiste_ [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13:54 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:14:47 -!- smithzv [~user@duan145-252-dhcp.colorado.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:18:03 -!- drmeiste_ [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:20:00 -!- kaygun__ [~kaygun@78.180.237.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:21:53 MrWoohoo [~MrWoohoo@pool-74-100-140-127.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:25:25 -!- echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:25:32 ggole [~ggole@58-7-122-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 07:25:33 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:25:33 -!- sdemarre [~serge@157.106-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:27:11 echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has joined #lisp 07:27:32 -!- sz0 [~user@208.72.139.54] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 07:27:49 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-23-246.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 07:29:40 randphu [~androirc@117.136.37.145] has joined #lisp 07:31:48 -!- randphu [~androirc@117.136.37.145] has left #lisp 07:33:57 -!- Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5DD9F9D4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:34:45 nha [~prefect@koln-5d8164b0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 07:36:12 -!- macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:42:15 -!- JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-198-255-198-157.buffalo.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:42:15 Davidbrcz [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 07:43:24 -!- ggole [~ggole@58-7-122-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 07:44:11 ggole [~ggole@58-7-122-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 07:46:38 -!- malbertife [~malbertif@host164-54-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:48:53 -!- fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317577.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:51:39 macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 07:52:07 shridhar [Shridhar@nat/redhat/x-unqcrbuyynyxojcj] has joined #lisp 07:53:22 -!- zpr [1000@205.204.17.127] has left #lisp 07:57:07 -!- macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:58:13 mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 07:59:39 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@88.115.137.88.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:59:59 macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 08:02:32 zpr [1000@205.204.17.127] has joined #lisp 08:03:26 is there a simple way to print messages indented based on the level of recursion? (ie. if in the top level of the program, 0 spaces; 1 recursive call deep = 3 spaces, 2 recursive calls deep = 6 spaces, etc.) 08:03:45 similar to the way (trace) prints 08:04:00 keen___ [~blackened@p73a2a78b.wmaxuq00.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 08:04:43 -!- keen__ [~blackened@pdf8791d1.wmaxuq00.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:10:46 not really built in but add an &aux parameter level and use ~V and ~T with level 08:11:48 -!- deego [deego@gateway/shell/ww7.be/x-xegbewmcvaldabin] has left #lisp 08:12:13 Karl_dscc [~localhost@wlan249024.rz.uni-leipzig.de] has joined #lisp 08:12:31 -!- Harag [~Thunderbi@105-236-162-208.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:48 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-67-9.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 08:14:27 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 08:14:30 mal___: can you give some references on the subject please? 08:19:30 (defun fac (n 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[~thomas@136-160.eduroam.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lisp 13:27:11 brace yourself, clicki is expiring? 13:27:24 Indeed. :D 13:27:28 does anyone see my error? http://pastebin.com/CdSG0H6n 13:27:42 i tested using (curryable (lambda (a b c) (+ a (* b c))) 3).....on the third application of the resulting function i get a "too many args given to lambda" error 13:27:50 it is good to know that we're not depending on cliki anymore. 13:28:21 i guess xach was so annoyed by having to renew cliki.net over and over again that he _had_ to write quicklisp 13:28:24 thanks for that! :) 13:28:38 haha 13:30:58 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 13:33:03 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:33:12 okflo`` [~user@62-46-134-235.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #lisp 13:35:19 -!- okflo` [~user@193-83-227-139.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:40:06 <|3b|> protist: seems to work here 13:40:16 yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has joined 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you think you are running) 13:51:56 doomlord_ [~servitor@host86-184-9-9.range86-184.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 13:53:57 clint5 [~lasca@186.130.228.189] has joined #lisp 13:54:25 greetings! 13:54:53 -!- clint5 [~lasca@186.130.228.189] has left #lisp 13:55:35 |3b|: will do :) 13:55:57 -!- mcsontos [mcsontos@nat/redhat/x-roegpychbckxzjqm] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:56:36 |3b|: prints out (1 2 3) before the error :/ 13:57:31 |3b|: sbcl is rejecting my unicode :/ 13:59:07 <|3b|> hmm, maybe try testing in a fresh lisp instance, and paste the whole thing? (what you entered in repl and what it printed) 14:00:06 -!- alexherbo2 [~alexherbo@APlessis-Bouchard-154-1-83-65.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3-dev] 14:02:45 <|3b|> also, (setf args (cons x args)) -> (push x args) 14:03:05 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@hosting.trifork.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 14:03:19 <|3b|> and i'd probably move the decf and push outside the if, and then call the function when (zerop arity) after that 14:03:58 frito [user@nat/ibm/x-vcolczjbkmgwylqq] has joined #lisp 14:04:14 <|3b|> probably also should handle excess arguments, either error or maybe call the function again ignoring extra arguments 14:06:56 if I attach a handler-bind to a condition a, and condition b is signaled where b inherits from a, my code is executed, right? 14:07:18 yes 14:07:37 you can try typep to be sure 14:07:43 thanks 14:07:50 dim: handler-bind takes type specifiers 14:08:13 ccorn [~ccorn@hosting.trifork.nl] has joined #lisp 14:08:38 malbertife 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https://github.com/sionescu/iolib/blob/336b8cf98241532ee821172d26db311584856767/src/base/deffoldable.lisp#L9 14:20:18 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@80.90.116.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:16 -!- zickzackv [~faot@port-92-198-30-130.static.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:24:49 mmm, too many things apart from just the type specifier in that example, but well, yeah 14:26:16 -!- cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:27:13 -!- malbertife [~malbertif@host164-54-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:27:52 dim: the first three definitions after the line I marked 14:28:07 mv2devnul [~markv@host-206-54-202-223.entouch.net] has joined #lisp 14:28:17 a function, a dependent type and its use in handler-bind 14:29:00 k0001 [~k0001@host92.181-1-203.telecom.net.ar] has joined #lisp 14:29:35 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@hosting.trifork.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 14:31:40 akbiggs 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binding 15:13:56 (destructuring-bind (foo &aux( *s* foo)) ... *s* ...) 15:14:03 p_nathan [~Adium@174-21-83-115.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 15:14:04 well then I have another problem I don't understand well 15:15:12 <|3b|> that works as i'd expect it to as far as i can tell 15:15:54 <|3b|> same as (destructuring-bind (foo) ... 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(Since I know it wasnt Xach) 19:05:05 cory786 [~cory@CK-Laptop.wifi.utoledo.edu] has joined #lisp 19:05:40 -!- aptenodyte [~mtm@paetec27-202.hampshire.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:25 -!- sellout- [~Adium@sta-207-174-73-89.rockynet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:49 -!- gendl_ [~dcooper8@c-98-250-10-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:08:02 sellout- [~Adium@sta-207-174-73-89.rockynet.com] has joined #lisp 19:10:42 cabaire [~nobody@p5DCD3205.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 19:11:02 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ejohnson] 19:11:19 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:11:43 -!- sellout- [~Adium@sta-207-174-73-89.rockynet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:02 cgore [~cgore@cgore.com] has joined #lisp 19:17:57 -!- frito` [~user@cpc3-sotn8-2-0-cust345.15-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:18:28 zacharias [~aw@p5DDA9EDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 19:18:31 -!- zacharias [~aw@p5DDA9EDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 19:18:31 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 19:20:52 nialo- [~yaaic@66-87-117-2.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #lisp 19:23:00 I need to make a record of ltk tips and tricks... latest one is to wrap your gui declarations with (locally (declare (notinline make-instance)) ) 19:23:23 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@086.112-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:24:02 -!- fisxoj [~fisxoj@dyn-129-97-41-229.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:24:20 jasom: that looks more like a workaround for a bug 19:24:50 it's more caching gone wrong than a bug proper 19:24:51 prxq: sbcl tries to cache make-instance calls; however the ltk api lends itself to having lots of make-instance calls with different parameters 19:25:12 and you usually only build your gui widgets once, so caching is a waste 19:26:00 jasom: you know, it might be a good idea to just drop by #sbcl and ask if there's a better way to change caching. (if you don't want to i will) 19:26:00 ok, and how does that make a difference, then? Less memory used? 19:26:15 the caching works by doing compiles of constructors the first time you call make-instance 19:26:18 which slows things down 19:26:20 prxq: 1.5s to initialize the gui -> .2s 19:26:37 ok, I'm sold :-) 19:26:38 well, or maybe it's at load-time, actually, but still. 19:26:53 It's supposed to be at load-time but it's not in this case for some reason 19:27:04 How do you tell? 19:27:05 I'm running from a memory image, so everything is already loaded 19:27:44 The caching logic seems to try and figure it out at compile time. If it succeeds it uses a make-load-form to cache it. 19:27:45 ...i don't think i know how load-time-value works with image dumping. 19:28:18 Isn't image dumping just a dump of the heap? l-t-v shouldn't be needed at all 19:28:38 in any case, it seems wrong to have to bother about such a thing. 19:29:40 -!- Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-193-178.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:57 Codynyx [~cody@c-75-72-193-178.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:30:09 well, i suppose your dumping works by loading a bunch of fasls, and then dumping 19:30:56 right 19:31:39 so load-time ought to be when you load those fasls, before you dump the image. 19:32:05 maybe it's the thing where the first loaded ctor is actually a loader for the... thing... this whole mechanism seems pretty confusing. 19:32:27 didi [~user@unaffiliated/didi/x-1022147] has joined #lisp 19:32:52 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #lisp 19:34:33 frito` [~user@cpc3-sotn8-2-0-cust345.15-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lisp 19:35:28 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 19:36:08 jasom: do you use ltk a lot? 19:36:14 yes 19:36:23 Its my default GUI for lisp 19:37:06 so I guess "a lot" is "every time I need a gui" which isn't *that* often, but it does come up 19:37:51 i see. out of curiosity - why not lambda-gtk or qt? 19:38:37 1) two years ago all various gtk and qt bindings crashed pretty reliably 2) I'm not sure how to build them on windows 19:39:38 i presume that the way that callbacks are handled makes ltk more stable. 19:39:57 It's at least impossible to core-dump 19:40:02 since no ffi is happening 19:40:25 you can totally confuse the tk side of things if there are bugs in ltk though 19:41:28 -!- ggole [~ggole@58-7-122-17.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 19:41:35 ffi is not usually that big of a problem by itself. But if you confuse, say, gtk the same way that you can confuse ltk, then that usually means stack and heap corruption. 19:41:50 s/ltk/tk/ 19:43:23 -!- seangrove [~user@c-69-181-197-122.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:44:43 well no ffi usually means no passing around unsafe pointers 19:44:55 modulo (declare (safety 0)) 19:45:33 -!- Patzy [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:46:03 Patzy [~something@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-151-137.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 19:48:03 -!- ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-255-002.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:49:15 it is possible to do that very safely by proper encapsulation. The problems start whenever there is an error in a callback, and you unwind the stack by a return to toplevel. It is hard not to pull the rug from under whatever internal state the foreign lib has. 19:50:21 anyway portability and stability (not to mention it looks pretty good on mac and windows by default) 19:50:58 just for the record, I am really just curious. Ltk is pretty good, as far as I can tell. 19:51:24 DalekBaldwin [~user@74.212.183.186] has joined #lisp 19:51:33 It's really warty in places 19:52:11 not very consistent with how it wraps the tk functionality, and the amount of wrapping is so minimal that you basically need to code with a copy of the tk documentation in-hand 19:52:36 is it still actively mantained? 19:52:41 but it works quite well (even better with a set of patches I have; I'll publish them as a fork on github if I don't get feedback from the mailing list soon) 19:52:56 i think peter moved on 19:53:00 prxq: They take bugfixes, aren't really adding features AFAICT 19:53:09 prxq: I got a reply from him when I e-mailed him a month ago 19:53:19 heh great 19:53:21 asking about where patches should go 19:53:34 he told me to send them to the list, which I did; haven't seen any response since though. 19:53:52 c-l.net mailing lists have been a bit off latelty 19:54:56 tic [~tic@c83-248-1-14.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 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Connection reset by peer] 22:49:10 -!- p_l [~pl@tsugumi.brage.info] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:00 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 22:52:13 -!- DalekBaldwin [~user@74.212.183.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:53:26 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-71-56-237-160.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:55:34 Is something wrong with cliki.net? 22:56:20 The domain expired, was repaid for but might take a while for DNS updates to propagate and be back up for everyone. 22:56:35 (or whatever the problem is if it still doesn't work) 22:56:59 bgs100 [~nitrogen@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 22:57:24 -!- hiroakip [~hiroaki@77-20-51-63-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:57:38 works for me 22:59:18 works here too 23:00:43 Is anyone having the same problem, or it's just me? 23:00:44 Might be some iffy DNS issues then. 23:00:47 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.104.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:00:58 fasiv: What does cliki.net resolve to for you? 23:01:21 -!- nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:01:53 50.7.165.4 23:02:56 it seems cliki.net was built on top of sbcl... 23:03:54 nevermind, I'll try to read about trivial-garbage and related via google cache. 23:03:58 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:04:16 Thank you very much for your help, comments and advice! 23:04:19 sohail [~sohail@unaffiliated/sohail] has joined #lisp 23:04:25 Have a nice day. 23:04:27 fasiv: That looks correct. 23:04:33 -!- fasiv [~user@186.130.228.189] has left #lisp 23:04:34 (The IP address.) 23:04:35 Ah. 23:04:46 -!- TheShrubber [~jonas@ip123021.directconnect.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10:00 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:12:46 JuanitoJons [~jreynoso@187.208.214.68] has joined #lisp 23:14:52 -!- akbiggs [~akbiggs@64.215.160.65] has quit [Ping 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