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02:29:10 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:33:21 yes 02:33:52 void64 [~luke@178.122.119.4] has joined #lisp 02:37:13 -!- hiyosi [~skip_it@247.94.30.125.dy.iij4u.or.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:37:18 nightfly: where can I find the documentation or reference on how this is done? 02:43:15 przl_ [~przlrkt@p5DCA3457.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 02:43:40 What would you think about an IDE that shows only structure, not parentheses? 02:43:53 seems vague 02:44:24 -!- erikc [~erikc@CPE78cd8e65fa60-CM78cd8e65fa5d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: erikc] 02:44:24 Like showing the tree in boxes 02:45:11 i think i'd have to try it, but it sounds interesting enough 02:45:22 joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@c-98-208-36-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:45:53 Denommus: problem with using boxes is that at any given edge you get bundles of box-edge lines that are just visual noise. I've tried it (not for lisp in particular) 02:46:33 fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317871.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 02:46:36 What was the editor? 02:46:41 Denommus: Consider that parentheses also establish a boundary but that boundary is shown only at the place in the text where it's relevant ... not that the analogy is perfect 02:46:41 oh, like max/msp or something, yeah 02:46:54 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5DCA3BCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:46:58 Denommus: Just prototypes I've written myself. 02:47:19 i was guessing something like a box saying "progn", and then you click it and two boxes "with-open-file" and "values" show up, so you could like... hide stuff, unhide stuff. 02:48:07 Yes, that's right 02:48:31 rather than max/msp where you have a bunch of boxes (representing functional units) with lines for input-output relations 02:48:32 Also, drag boxes 02:48:48 -!- zRecursive [~czsq888@171.212.255.125] has left #lisp 02:49:06 -!- Denommus [~Denommus@unaffiliated/denommus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:11 -!- blaaa [541a018c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.26.1.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:49:13 Denommus` [~Denommus@177-179-22-36.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #lisp 02:49:17 breakds [~breakds@c-24-0-146-43.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:49:36 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:49:41 Darn, connection dropped 02:51:00 -!- Denommus` [~Denommus@177-179-22-36.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51:18 Denommus [~Denommus@unaffiliated/denommus] has joined #lisp 02:53:19 Would scratch be a good inspiration? 02:55:13 Does anyone know what is going on here with (values)? Where does he set the values in? https://github.com/ahefner/mixalot/blob/master/flac-stream.lisp#L155-L161 02:55:15 -!- askatasuna [~askatasun@111-223-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 02:56:18 PuercoPop: (values) means returning zero values, it's just an idiom meaning the function is called for effect 02:56:53 so it is just to communicate intent? 02:57:09 dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 02:57:17 well it's the return of the function, but yes 02:59:22 -!- CrazyEddy [~Pembroke@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:59:26 Thanks, I was under the mistaken impression that you it was related to streaming through threads. 02:59:44 hello there PuercoPop . 02:59:51 hi dto 02:59:54 :) 03:00:18 hows it going? 03:03:04 business as usual, summer is over so I'll have to start looking for a job again. 03:03:44 ah, 03:03:46 -!- jlongster [~user@pool-72-84-229-181.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:03:47 ok. 03:03:57 nothing earth shattering here, 03:05:03 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #lisp 03:05:51 btw do you know if someone is working on getting lisp-builder to target sdl-2.0? 03:06:29 i think possibly oGMo 03:06:33 and someone else 03:06:51 *PuercoPop* nods 03:06:54 I might try to help out too, if i can 03:07:09 i'm going to be porting my stuff to android and that might be important to do then 03:15:23 CrazyEddy [~unidolize@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has joined #lisp 03:17:31 -!- rvchangue [~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:21:38 Yay, ecl running on the Android terminal emulator 03:22:15 -!- pizzasauce [~user@unaffiliated/pizzasauce] has left #lisp 03:22:17 hey wow Denommus . 03:22:39 rvchangue [~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue] has joined #lisp 03:23:34 rk[imposter] [~rkimposte@stallman.cse.ohio-state.edu] has joined #lisp 03:24:35 -!- CrazyEddy [~unidolize@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:26:01 Ryan_Burnside [~ryan@63-153-70-162.hlna.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 03:26:51 Any opinions on Racket? Not sure about it being build on Java... 03:27:32 racket is on java? (offtopic, though) 03:27:49 Bike: I think it used llvm 03:28:03 Ryan_Burnside: this channel is Common Lisp specific. But no, Racket is not a JVM language. Clojure is 03:29:30 -!- void64 [~luke@178.122.119.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:29:59 -!- jleija [~jleija@50.15.142.21] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:30:18 Does ecl library exposes the interpreter? 03:33:20 -!- dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:34:16 home page says "bytecodes compiler and interpreter" 03:35:39 I believe that it does. 03:37:04 DataLinkDroid: I'm specifically talking about the library. So, if I could call the interpreter from a native application without spawning a new process 03:38:14 Well, I need to sleep. Good night 03:38:58 And I believe that the answer to that is "you can". 03:39:08 ECL is good at being called from C. 03:40:10 -!- Denommus [~Denommus@unaffiliated/denommus] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:41:52 void64 [~luke@178.122.242.136] has joined #lisp 03:48:14 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:01:31 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.158.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:03:37 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #lisp 04:06:06 Aiwass [~user@unaffiliated/aiwass] has joined #lisp 14:22:06 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #lisp 14:22:06 14:22:06 -!- names: ccl-logbot holycow mathrick fantazo teggi quazimodo kcj aftershave danlentz AeroNotix maxter victor_lowther BeLucid diadara mgile pranavrc drmeiste_ oleo harish normanrichards doomlord aeth foreignFunction LiamH breakds przl fortitude benkard Mon_Ouie statl hiyosi hitecnologys segv- echo-area nipra knob yacks antgreen Joreji lduros ASau` ltbarcly__ stassats zacharias arare theos CrazyEddy trigen peterhil yrk AntiSpamMeta gleag pavelpenev finnrobi void64 14:22:06 -!- names: angavrilov arenz sz0 shridhar stepnem ck`` mvilleneuve jewel varjagg clop xificurC mns Shinmera billitch add^_ mrSpec prxq cyphase karswell` setmeaway kushal alezost sellout- easye rk[imposter] rvchangue joneshf-laptop isaacbw walter|r MoALTz_ Nisstyre-laptop Kabaka cdidd Codynyx chu goodmanio ckoch786 Tanami sauerkrause sirdancealot DrCode mtd [SLB] namtsui ebw hugod milosn matko naryl McMAGIC--Copy antoszka edgar-rft ``Erik p_l Praise ered MasseR 14:22:06 -!- names: wormphlegm seangrov` kpreid drmeister entitativity reb````` lusory zmyrgel hajovonta Bike KingNato_ nowhere_man s0ber Patzy Nisstyre axion Vutral dotemacs fikusz arkx oconnore Trenif kbtr_ cmatei_ yonkeltr` Mandus_ mlamari_ cpt_nemo nullman tali713 joneshf-work lifeng joast sykopomp specbot loke weie spacefrogg amaron scharan Teratogen sontek ahungry s00pcan tic_ tic kirin` araujo Posterdati pjb Khisanth EvW theBlackDragon irq0 smull arrdem sweet_kid 14:22:06 -!- names: jsnell bejer dim guyal rpgsimmaster_ dsp__ benny hiroakip tensorpudding Borbus xristos_ foom TristamWrk naeg_ ferada felideon ircbrowse jduhamel nightshade427 Aste123 ianmcorvidae sabra GuilOooo fe[nl]ix konr ragnul hyperboreean igotnolegs- minion tkd MrWoohoo capisce patrickwonders kotharia Yamazaki-kun robot-beethoven guther froggey lemoinem Tristam quasisane drdo eak dfox aoh balle daimrod jdz surrounder rtoym kanru aw|incendiary SHODAN jaimef bege 14:22:06 -!- names: dnolen bhyde Tarential asedeno seggy Squid_Tamer davorb sshirokov nicdev |3b| ivan\ ozzloy karbak djanatyn Jubb Tordek PuffTheMagic NimeshNeema _schulte_ Nshag __main__ DrForr samebchase rotty ggherdov cpape adeht DollyDuplex yroeht2 ramus freiksenet kmder obre otwieracz pr Natch schoppenhauer PuercoPop igorw periodicity03 mal___ yano peccu2 nightfly vnz snafuchs __wahjava__ Ralt aajmakin_ rien_ johs sjl Blkt aerique fmu____ varjag d4gg4d rvirding j0ni 14:22:06 -!- names: ski gabot phadthai clog nitro_idiot brucem mshroyer guaqua ft Xach Batalyx gluegadget sigjuice MouseTheLuckyDog srcerer hypno seantallen macrobat Amadiro gko stokachu epsylon newcup jhj zfx quackv4 redline6561 ineiros_ abend prip_ luis` photex doomlord_ zenoli karupanerura rk[] flip216 subtlepath joshe tvaalen vsync madnificent felipe strawmn_ Zhivago tomaw stopbit tragalo sbryant arbscht_ Subfusc Adeon mmathis ivan djinni` Cheery vhost- hpd H4ns 14:22:06 -!- names: banjiewen cibs dan64 justinmcp Krystof housel ecraven koisoke bobbysmith0071 Tribal gemelen fmu BlastHardcheese Neptu jasom Anarch tychoish expez sid_cypher ttm sfa rabite j_king acieroid Watcher7 jd__ nuba_ gideonite eMBee copec jayne yeltzooo Ash tessier galdor wyan cruxeternus gf3 ether0_ ve Fade sytse oGMo pok_ cmbntr gensym cross 14:23:27 -!- Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:25:26 What do these +t-onCblahblah mean? 14:26:20 +t means you have to be an op to change the topic 14:26:44 chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 14:26:55 JPeterson [~JPeterson@s213-103-210-215.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 14:27:43 I see. 14:27:45 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:27:49 It makes it easier to keep the topic on channel. 14:27:49 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 14:28:12 not that we had any problems without +t 14:28:27 Zhivago: but does it make easier to keep the channel on topic? ;) 14:30:28 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #lisp 14:30:51 Just a matter of semantics. 14:33:03 -!- pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Client Quit] 14:33:30 kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 14:34:57 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@melontech.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:16 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #lisp 14:38:58 _d3f [~gnu@ip-static-94-242-252-66.as5577.net] has joined #lisp 14:45:06 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-24-173-184-38.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: normanrichards] 14:45:07 How is (*var*) bad? I like lisp-2 :-) 14:45:32 (defun *^.^* () 'hihi) (*^.^*) 14:46:15 Now let's implement dynamic binding flet: (defmacro dyn:flet () ) :-) 14:46:53 Karl_dscc [~localhost@ipdsw03.informatik.fh-schmalkalden.de] has joined #lisp 14:47:25 spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 14:48:20 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:48:20 yakov [~yakov@81.3.129.2] has joined #lisp 14:50:19 krrrcks [~dbr@krrrcks.de] has joined #lisp 14:52:20 motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has joined #lisp 14:53:20 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:16 -!- holycow [~holycow@host-216-251-135-194.bchsia.skywaywest.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:55:14 chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 14:56:01 -!- CrazyEddy [~stenother@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has quit [Quit: .] 14:56:37 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@5070B859.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 14:58:40 -!- walter|r [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:58:45 yCrazyEdd [~pointless@wrongplanet/CrazyEddy] has joined #lisp 14:59:30 -!- yrk [~user@pdpc/supporter/student/yrk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:02:43 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-76-180-168-166.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 15:05:38 -!- diadara [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:07:49 Hydan [~Adium@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lisp 15:09:10 -!- Batalyx [~ji@halava.cc.jyu.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:11:17 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-180-111.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 15:11:55 joe9 [~user@ip70-179-153-227.fv.ks.cox.net] has joined #lisp 15:13:11 -!- xificurC [xificurC@nat/ibm/x-ihldizkhsudfepqa] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:13:17 normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 15:14:18 smazga [~acrid@64.55.45.194] has joined #lisp 15:18:55 ampersand27017 [~ampersand@h-69-3-174-99.lsan.ca.megapath.net] has joined #lisp 15:22:02 davazp [~user@92.251.197.196.threembb.ie] has joined #lisp 15:24:10 -!- antgreen [~green@out-on-133.wireless.telus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:26:37 -!- benkard [~benkard@2001:4ca0:0:f230:d1af:e46f:babc:94a1] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz] 15:26:54 billstclair [~billstcla@p-74-209-19-25.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has joined #lisp 15:26:54 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@p-74-209-19-25.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:26:54 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #lisp 15:27:15 ipmonger [~IPmonger@pool-72-94-39-57.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 15:28:27 Batalyx [~ji@halava.cc.jyu.fi] has joined #lisp 15:29:30 -!- Bike is now known as a 15:29:39 -!- a is now known as Bike 15:29:41 jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-114-190.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 15:30:52 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:42 paddymahoney [~patrick@24.137.221.230] has joined #lisp 15:34:15 -!- mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:34:31 Is there a way to determine thread ID's of running threads inside sbcl on Linux? 15:37:17 sb-thread! 15:37:32 oleo: can you be more specific? 15:37:50 that's the package where the symbols which deal with threads are... 15:38:03 Is there one there that determines the thread id of running threads? 15:38:07 look into sources and read it's docs 15:38:16 sb-thread:thread-id? 15:38:25 oh man 15:38:51 except there's no sb-thread:thread-id 15:38:54 *Xach* was hoping for more than just guesses 15:41:33 Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has joined #lisp 15:41:39 -!- arenz [arenz@nat/ibm/x-rjhmtkxftnyxnbki] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:43:32 sigjuice: I have some code somewhere for doing that... I believe i had to call out to the operating system to get it, but give me a second 15:43:59 sigjuice: why do you need to know the thread id? 15:44:10 Thanks. I just found out that (iolib.syscalls:gettid) does it for me. 15:44:35 I have a bunch of threads and I want to strace a specific thread. 15:46:46 sigjuice: thats good, I had (sb-unix::syscall ("syscall" sb-alien::int ) (values sb-unix::result 0) 186), 186 was looked up in the headers 15:47:07 benkard [~benkard@2001:4ca0:0:f230:a968:ae43:5e22:9aa4] has joined #lisp 15:47:16 and then a bunch of other code to attach the thread id to the lisp-thread 15:48:03 I had wanted that functionality because we have a bunch of job threads running and it was occasionally difficult to pinpoint which one of them was hung up / eating the processor without the thread-id 15:48:07 -!- ampersand27017 [~ampersand@h-69-3-174-99.lsan.ca.megapath.net] has quit [Quit: ampersand27017] 15:48:11 -!- bobbysmith0071 is now known as bobbysmith007 15:48:54 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48:55 baggers [~yaaic@cpc5-cbly5-2-0-cust10.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 15:50:05 sb-thread:list-all-threads 15:50:39 variable *current-thread* bound in each thread to the thread itself 15:50:51 Does that show which one is hung up or eating the processor? 15:50:56 so that would be your thread-id i assume 15:51:21 Nope. 15:51:33 -!- benkard [~benkard@2001:4ca0:0:f230:a968:ae43:5e22:9aa4] has quit [Client Quit] 15:51:42 (make-thread (lambda () (write-line "hello,world!"))) what does that return ? 15:51:50 thread is a struct it seems 15:51:57 but prone to change in the future 15:52:08 Xach, oleo: as far as I could tell at the time, the tid was not exposed in sbcl thus the syscall 15:52:27 I believe it was giving the pid or something like that when asked for its id 15:52:38 nialo- [~yaaic@66-87-116-129.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #lisp 15:52:56 ah, it may not be exposed yes 15:53:20 maybe they will ....in future versions 15:53:22 dunno 15:53:23 oleo: Have you visited #lisp with a different nickname in the past? 15:53:24 anondo [~happy@223.180.129.78] has joined #lisp 15:53:28 yes 15:53:38 Which? 15:53:45 sepult, homie, wbooze, and now oleo 15:53:54 :) 15:54:03 Ok. The name may change, but the unhelpful random guessing and speculating does not. 15:54:16 -!- anondo [~happy@223.180.129.78] has left #lisp 15:54:47 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:57:19 BitPuffin [~BitPuffin@c83-254-19-137.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 15:57:38 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 15:58:55 -!- przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:59:47 Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 16:00:05 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00:38 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 16:03:23 diadara [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has joined #lisp 16:03:28 ok, seems there's no thread-id 16:03:39 lisp side... 16:04:08 -!- varjagg [~eugene@122.62-97-226.bkkb.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:04:10 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:04:15 -!- guyal [~anonymous@108.235.117.64] has quit [Quit: The Sleeper has Aquitten] 16:05:09 oleo: right... unless you call that syscall from within the thread 16:05:41 willyfrog [~willyfrog@146.255.102.14.gigas.com] has joined #lisp 16:07:28 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@50.196.148.101] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 16:08:55 wheelsucker [~user@168.114.240.151] has joined #lisp 16:09:49 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 16:11:21 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 16:12:03 -!- spacefrogg is now known as spacefrogg^ 16:14:07 -!- Hydan [~Adium@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:17:05 -!- jewel [~jewel@105-236-76-4.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:17:53 paolo_m [~user@2-228-95-110.ip190.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 16:18:30 pthread_self 16:18:38 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@158.127.31.162] has quit [Quit: Must not waste too much time here...] 16:19:53 What is the meaning of the os-thread slot in the sb-thread:thread objects? 16:20:50 -!- motionman [~motionman@unaffiliated/motionman] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:22:09 -!- DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:22:24 oGMo: So you are taking another approach at generating the bindings for sdl than lisp-builder, interesting. 16:25:14 12.9 Foreign threads 16:25:25 possibly.... 16:25:54 oleo: what happens when you try (slot-value sb-thread:*current-thread* 'sb-thread::os-thread) ? 16:25:55 i.e the lisp side did not create them itself.... 16:26:06 UB ? 16:27:01 i didn't try it 16:27:40 -!- paolo_m [~user@2-228-95-110.ip190.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:20 -!- kushal [kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30:26 -!- joneshf-laptop [~joneshf@c-98-208-36-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:31:54 DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has joined #lisp 16:32:30 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:34:07 no os-threads are not foreign threads, os-threads is a slot in sb-thread:thread yes, so it has a lisp side constructor 16:34:13 meh 16:34:45 is that the thread-id ? 16:34:52 pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has joined #lisp 16:35:04 it's type integer 16:35:25 -!- baggers [~yaaic@cpc5-cbly5-2-0-cust10.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 16:35:32 You didn't say "foreign threads" in the beginning. I'm not sure what you mean by this in the first place. Are you using C libraries running their own threads? 16:36:15 -!- pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 16:36:59 pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has joined #lisp 16:38:11 140737353893696, that's what i got with the above from you gleag 16:38:43 but got also an error 16:38:46 -!- yakov [~yakov@81.3.129.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:39:01 That's an interesting number. 16:39:08 iolib already gave an answer. 16:39:21 debugger invoked on a UNBOUND-VARIABLE in thread #: The variable || is unbound. 16:40:16 hmm, have to check my init file 16:40:19 -!- joe9 [~user@ip70-179-153-227.fv.ks.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40:34 -!- periodicity03 [~periodici@67.182.147.102] has quit [Quit: periodicity03] 16:42:04 eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-220-240-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has joined #lisp 16:42:24 and pthread_self is the id of the caller not the callee 16:42:30 it seems 16:42:44 -!- Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:42:55 eeezkil [~eeezkil@unaffiliated/eeezkil] has joined #lisp 16:44:07 AntiSpamMeta_ [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has joined #lisp 16:44:07 -!- AntiSpamMeta is now known as Guest15678 16:44:07 -!- Guest15678 [~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.] has quit [Killed (card.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 16:44:07 -!- AntiSpamMeta_ is now known as AntiSpamMeta 16:44:39 https://computing.llnl.gov/tutorials/pthreads/#Overview 16:44:46 http://www.sbcl.org/manual/#Threading 16:44:55 what are you trying to do? 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Therefore pthread_self would not be constant for a given lisp process. 17:31:02 -!- shridhar [Shridhar@nat/redhat/x-zaaipwpadhwbtvss] has quit [Quit: shridhar] 17:32:34 shridhar [Shridhar@nat/redhat/x-yshreroilyvozali] has joined #lisp 17:33:12 -!- shridhar [Shridhar@nat/redhat/x-yshreroilyvozali] has quit [Client Quit] 17:33:57 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 17:35:42 josemanuel [~josemanue@94.165.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 17:35:51 -!- turduks [~hddddhd@bzq-79-182-160-180.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 17:36:17 -!- normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: normanrichards] 17:38:23 SacPa [~SacPa@187.153.129.94] has joined #lisp 17:39:00 ImagiLisp 17:39:28 -!- josemanuel [~josemanue@94.165.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:38 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:43:11 pjb: sounds like go 17:44:39 ImagiCLisp 17:44:43 -!- quazimodo [~quazimodo@c27-253-98-217.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:44:45 sounds like ImagiCLisp 17:45:10 imagiclisp, accompanied by ImagiClips hairstylist 17:45:30 -!- SacPa [~SacPa@187.153.129.94] has quit [K-Lined] 17:45:37 josemanuel [~josemanue@25.161.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 17:46:54 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:47:06 bitonic [~user@cpe-68-173-125-35.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 17:47:30 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:48:14 I guess the hard part is the scheduling and pausing of the fake threads? that and some stack management stuff? 17:49:23 -!- spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:49:48 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.97.18] has joined #lisp 17:49:50 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:50:18 yakov [~yakov@178-16-144-241.obit.ru] has joined #lisp 17:52:30 -!- sz0 [~user@92.44.62.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:53:20 zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has joined #lisp 17:53:25 slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.4.22] has joined #lisp 17:54:44 askatasuna [~askatasun@190.18.152.144] has joined #lisp 17:55:07 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:56:17 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 18:01:44 josemanuel_ [~josemanue@176.176.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 18:01:55 -!- josemanuel_ [~josemanue@176.176.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:17 -!- dnolen [uid2594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-langvzzalnldcjez] has left #lisp 18:02:18 dnolen [uid2594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-langvzzalnldcjez] has joined #lisp 18:02:35 -!- josemanuel [~josemanue@25.161.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:03:03 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.97.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:06:14 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:07:05 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #lisp 18:07:17 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 18:07:35 macdice [~user@46-65-10-191.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 18:07:49 loke_erc [~user@22.64.7.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 18:08:01 drmeist__ [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has joined #lisp 18:10:42 drmeis___ [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has joined #lisp 18:10:54 -!- eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-220-240-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:10:56 -!- drmeist__ [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:07 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #lisp 18:11:42 -!- drmeiste_ [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:13:53 Hydan [~Adium@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lisp 18:15:25 -!- dnolen [uid2594@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-langvzzalnldcjez] has left #lisp 18:16:20 puchacz [~puchacz@46-65-36-47.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 18:17:53 -!- drmeis___ [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:18:45 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #lisp 18:20:53 -!- drmeiste_ [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:38 -!- Tanami [~carnage@9ch.in] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:25:00 Tanami [~carnage@9ch.in] has joined #lisp 18:25:24 Hello ChanOps! GCL has two new releases, 2.6.8 (http://www.gnu.org/software/gcl/RELEASE-2.6.8.html) and 2.6.9. (ttp://www.gnu.org/software/gcl/RELEASE-2.6.9.html). It would be nice if it could be included in the channel topic. 18:25:58 can't gcl just be forgotten? 18:26:10 lol 18:26:11 gcl? really? 18:26:59 Has it been 8 years already? 18:27:19 or at least not included in the topic, lest people thing that it's something popular and will try to use it 18:27:23 s/thing/think/ 18:27:41 new: immediate fixnums! 18:28:05 /topic "New: GCL 2.6.8 but don't use it, oh god, why" 18:28:24 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:29 -!- jaimef [jaimef@dns.mauthesis.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:28:41 jaimef [jaimef@dns.mauthesis.com] has joined #lisp 18:28:55 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 18:29:50 It looks cool. It has a built-in interface to Tk. 18:32:53 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #lisp 18:34:05 Don't worry. There is nothing new in it anyway. You can go back to your regular programming. 18:36:30 -!- seangrov` [~user@c-69-181-197-122.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:36:54 nipra1 [~nipra@122.177.247.39] has joined #lisp 18:37:02 -!- nipra1 [~nipra@122.177.247.39] has quit [Client Quit] 18:37:35 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 18:37:35 *Xach* ports quicklisp to gcl 18:37:45 good luck! 18:38:28 -!- nipra [~nipra@122.177.30.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:39:07 i'm not clear on the semantics of #+condition #+condition a b, i've usually seen it when both conditions are the same, but what happens when they are not? 18:39:28 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40:10 normanrichards [~normanric@rrcs-108-178-120-144.sw.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:41:08 ebw` [~user@e176225148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lisp 18:42:06 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:42:09 Xach: wouldn't it be easier to port gcl to CL? 18:42:21 more specifically, #+ca #+cb a b, is cb paired with b, or with a 18:42:37 stassats: it's not really clear. Better to write #+ca a #+cb c 18:42:50 i'm not asking what to write 18:43:46 IIRC, even Maxima removed its GCL support. Is there anything thatll run on it? Or are they actually striving to be ANSI-compliant now? 18:44:06 um, i think it reads in the particular order, like, depending on ca the result of the next read is ignored or not, and the next read is "#+cb a" 18:44:16 maybe b is always read? 18:44:22 Didn't the creators of GCL actually make the grand ANSI test suite? 18:44:23 sellout-: look at the changelog, they are not doing aything to the implementation. It's mostly compilation fixes and such things. 18:44:35 -!- ebw [~user@g230133167.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:44:45 ltbarcly [~textual@216.113.168.141] has joined #lisp 18:45:08 stassats: the six popular implementations I have here do: clall -r '(push :a *features*)' '(quote ((#+a a #+b b) (#+a #+b a b) (#+a #+b b a)))' -> ((A) (B) (A)) 18:45:26 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.4.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:46:23 stassats: for (#+b #+a b a), ccl differs and returns ((A) (B) (A) NIL) instead of ((A) (B) (A) (A)). 18:47:02 sdemarre [~serge@109.134.134.194] has joined #lisp 18:47:50 so i can interpret it however i like 18:48:22 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 18:48:49 i think i'll pair them with whichever condition is the closest 18:49:18 sellout-: what about acl2 and axiom? 18:49:59 prxq: Does ACL2 work on GCL? I just know they primarily use CCL. 18:50:36 no idea. The list is not really dead, so I figured it's used more frequently than legend has it. 18:50:46 -!- loke_erc [~user@22.64.7.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51:23 -!- yakov [~yakov@178-16-144-241.obit.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:51:42 I think 2.4.8.17 (and 18) says that it should be considered as: #+a #+b b a 18:52:37 Internally, when #+(:or) b is read, no object is returned, so the reading of #+a  should read a next, however it's implemented. 18:52:37 ehu [~ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 18:54:13 -!- seggy [c6fce60f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.252.230.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:55:07 On the other hand, (#-(and) #+(and) a b) should be read as (b), since #-(and) must skip the next read object, which is a, read from #+(and) a. 18:56:02 I would consider there's a conformity bug in ccl. 18:56:25 -!- doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:37 -!- zacharias [~aw@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 18:56:43 francogrex [~user@109.128.109.119] has joined #lisp 18:57:23 doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 18:57:54 -!- Tanami [~carnage@9ch.in] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:58:12 All implementations return (A) for (#+(and) #+(and) a) :-) This is a definitive argument for (#-(and) #+(and) a b) to return (B). 18:58:14 something weird is happening to my quicklisp installation when i place a project in local-projects, it is not loading dependencies, it wants them to be already in the folder. I think i might have accidentally deleted somerthing 18:58:41 Tanami [~carnage@9ch.in] has joined #lisp 18:59:37 *francogrex* reinstalling 19:01:23 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:01:52 francogrex: where should the dependencies be found instead? 19:01:53 francogrex: normally, quicklisp should detect automatically new projects there. 19:02:27 There can be bugs with system-file dependencies, those that are needed when (find-system "foo") is evaluated. 19:02:42 but usually if a system is visible to asdf it can act as a dependency 19:06:22 slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.4.22] has joined #lisp 19:08:08 Xach: I mean it used to download them from repo 19:09:09 and yes after reinstalling quicklisp it works! 19:09:46 I must have messed up my previous installation... sorry for false alarm my mistake (which i knew) 19:11:48 Xach, I think when manually deleting some projects (i.e cleaning up projects I don't need anymore) I messed it up. Is there a way to cleanly uninstall projects? 19:12:11 -!- Aramur [~arare@135.Red-79-148-14.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Aramur] 19:14:09 -!- maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:14:58 -!- statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-224-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:16:18 -!- Joreji [~thomas@77-23-110-134-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:18:12 statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-224-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 19:19:07 -!- s00pcan [~chris@108-208-64-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20:18 MrBoo [~user@cpc4-jarr13-2-0-cust629.16-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 19:20:33 The joke about GCL having a release is really funny! :) 19:21:08 sellout-: That's weird, the newest Maxima binaries for Windows are still compiled with GCL. 19:21:54 In fact, I'm deeply suspicious that the whole GNU Maxima test suite is heavily biased in towards GCL's idiosyncrazies. 19:22:21 svs_ [~svs@104-252-AGAVEBB-NM.abq.nm.agavebb.net] has joined #lisp 19:22:55 spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 19:24:27 francogrex: projects that were installed via quicklisp? 19:24:53 yes 19:25:49 One way is (ql:uninstall "system-name") 19:26:17 s00pcan [~chris@108-208-64-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 19:26:44 ok thanks practical I suppose it will also remove the fasl files 19:27:24 Nope. 19:27:48 the files are cached in ~/.cache/common-lisp/ by asdf. quicklisp doesn't do anything to manage that cache. 19:27:54 Is there any actual user documentation for Quicklisp? 19:28:04 gleag: only what's on quicklisp.org/beta/ 19:28:21 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.201.4.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:28:22 If not, I'll have to write down and collect notes and write a user guide ;) 19:28:23 Not everything useful is covered, and what is covered is not covered in a lot of depth. 19:28:26 what would you use (as a lib) to build an UDP server? 19:29:23 ok my problem was not in the cache folder, it was while messing up in the quicklisp folders; uninstall will do the job cleanly 19:29:27 dim: usocket works for me usually. 19:29:58 cool, they seem to want to defend their solution as *the* choice, even against iolib (that I think as a newcomer, right?) 19:30:02 francogrex: I hope it will. 19:30:14 Oddity [~Oddity@unaffiliated/oddity] has joined #lisp 19:30:34 iolib is not without problems 19:30:47 I'm playing with the idea of implementing a syslog server, maybe that already exists? 19:31:09 syslog-ng works fine. 19:31:17 as does rsyslog 19:31:43 yeah sure, I'm not after competing with those 19:32:31 it's about getting data from them (or other clients) and pushing it through in PostgreSQL using the COPY protocol, and with maybe some tranforms (e.g. keep only some parts of the messages) 19:32:59 Franz people have written an NFS server. Why not other system-level tools in Lisp? 19:33:00 yakov [~yakov@37-144-231-236.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 19:33:17 I saw the rsyslog PostgreSQL output module docs and there's no way that can be efficient if it's going to build an INSERT command per message and a PG transaction per INSERT command. 19:33:30 Perhaps the first sane directory server in the world could be written this way. ;) 19:33:48 basically I want pgloader to be able to be fed from syslog (usually from rsyslog forwarding I guess) 19:34:16 dim: Is the connection persistent? Isn't it possible to used it as a prepared statement? 19:35:16 nice, postmodern already depends on usocket anyway 19:35:28 -!- mgile [~mgile@74-92-220-177-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Parting is such sweet sorrow...] 19:36:05 gleag: the benefits of using the COPY streaming protocol are going to be huge in terms of performances, and I already have that part of the code ready, using lparallel for some basic queuing and threading 19:36:49 Uff, just how many log records per second are we talking about here? 19:37:11 `fogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has joined #lisp 19:37:18 10,000 for my current customer 19:37:53 I can copy 30,000 tuples in on my (ssd) laptop here 19:40:08 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42:05 prxq_ [~mommer@mnhm-5f75c7cb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 19:42:55 -!- diadara [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:42:57 -!- prxq_ [~mommer@mnhm-5f75c7cb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43:14 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@46.233.223.236] has quit [Quit: hitecnologys] 19:43:59 OK, scratch my idea. O_o; 19:44:04 -!- svs_ [~svs@104-252-AGAVEBB-NM.abq.nm.agavebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:15 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c2a13.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:44:19 svs_ [~svs@104-252-AGAVEBB-NM.abq.nm.agavebb.net] has joined #lisp 19:44:33 Is your customer NSA, by any chance? :D 19:45:46 diadara [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has joined #lisp 19:46:13 svs__ [~svs@104-252-AGAVEBB-NM.abq.nm.agavebb.net] has joined #lisp 19:46:14 -!- svs_ [~svs@104-252-AGAVEBB-NM.abq.nm.agavebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:11 not at all, 10 thousand messages per second is quite low 19:48:24 well, depends, but it's easy to reach that with e.g. apache logs 19:48:28 -!- nialo- [~yaaic@66-87-116-129.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:35 try to imagine twitter http logs... 19:48:56 Aramur [~arare@135.Red-79-148-14.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 19:49:03 Apparently my sysadmin experience equates to zero. 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20:11:26 stassats: Is that an IDE youre writing? 20:11:36 dim: what does it look like i'm doing? 20:11:49 sellout-: indeed i am 20:12:18 yeah I know what it looks like, another editor... what the png doesn't show is the good reasons why you're doing that 20:12:29 I can smell Qt. 20:12:36 I can smell NIH. 20:12:46 stassats: Yeah  why do we need a clim-desktop replacement? 20:13:26 You should be working on what *I* want you to work on 20:13:28 dim: because i got tired of making slime better on emacs 20:13:29 -!- francogrex [~user@109.128.109.119] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:13:36 stassats, is that clim-powered? :) 20:13:46 yakov: no, it's Qt indeed 20:13:52 Xach: ;-) 20:14:31 i posted videos earlier, for example, interactive restarts are handled better than slime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur0pNQiuKjo 20:14:32 stassats: ok, well, I hope you get to something comparable to racket with embedded images and all, that would be pretty cool 20:15:28 dim: geiser can do it too in Emacs btw. 20:15:39 oh cool 20:15:40 -!- BitPuffin [~BitPuffin@c83-254-19-137.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 20:16:02 dim: you can embed pictures in slime 20:16:03 BitPuffin [~BitPuffin@c83-254-19-137.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 20:16:05 my problem with images in Emacs is that they are considered to be in a single line, whatever their size, that's not proper rendering 20:16:07 yeah, this place is pretty crowded already to innovate :-P 20:16:43 -!- macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:16:50 see slime-media contrib 20:17:02 cool 20:19:09 dim: you ought to ask for full LM experience, don't settle for less! :) 20:19:36 -!- diadara [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:20:31 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-180-111.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 20:21:57 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #lisp 20:22:27 diadara [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has joined #lisp 20:22:37 slime is really not that impressive when look at some other IDEs 20:22:38 seangrov` [~user@160.sub-70-197-8.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 20:25:13 macrobat [~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 20:27:42 -!- sdemarre [~serge@109.134.134.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:27:51 diadara_ [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has joined #lisp 20:28:44 -!- diadara [~diadara@115.249.18.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:16 gleag: well... right ;-) 20:30:36 francogrex [~user@109.128.109.119] has joined #lisp 20:30:41 FYI: http://formlis.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/hack-co-routines-in-sbcl-lisp/ 20:30:41 AeroNoti1 [~xeno@abob12.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 20:30:46 also, writing a completely new thing means no helmut vetoing cool things 20:31:41 stassats, example of such other IDE? 20:32:06 also why not just make your "new things" fork anyway.. 20:32:39 because i hate gnu emacs? 20:32:45 s/hate/dislike/ 20:33:52 whatever modern IDEs are popular? netbeans, intellij 20:34:00 ah, i see. anyway, do you have examples of shiny other IDEs? 20:34:02 hm. 20:34:10 i currently work for intellij BTW... 20:35:02 slime does really looks impressive in context of any of netbeans/intellij 20:35:07 but thats maybe just me... 20:35:11 eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-134-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 20:35:34 i miss couple GUI things from LW but thats really easy to compensate for 20:35:43 (and i still have my LW at hands of-course) 20:36:21 slime doesn't have any advanced code editing or refactoring functionality 20:36:40 and you know that in fact last 10-15 years of that IDE progress is catching up with Lisp REPL and Smalltalk environment ;) 20:36:52 Why do you need to rewrite code? With lisp you get it right first-time! 20:36:52 macros and reader macros don't help with that 20:37:16 H4ns: ping 20:37:59 AeroNotix: 'tsup 20:38:07 H4ns: how's it going? 20:38:23 clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has joined #lisp 20:38:24 have to say I really like Drakma's code. Seems very clean and readable. 20:38:27 AeroNotix: i'm fine. i wonder what it is that you're waiting for from my side :) 20:38:43 H4ns, hey! 20:38:52 H4ns: I rebased PR so it should have updated. 20:39:01 AeroNotix: i did not write it, but i'll pass it on 20:39:06 cool 20:39:07 AeroNotix: documentation? 20:39:10 H4ns: that too 20:39:11 hows your hr campaign going? 20:39:12 yakov: hey. 20:39:16 i'm not yet sure how to solve the macro problem, on SBCL, i can arrange for tight integration, but for other implementations it will be harder 20:39:27 maybe i will have to write an interpreter 20:39:34 yakov: not as good as we'd like it to go, but we have something of a pipeline. but that is ot. 20:39:39 H4ns: I also sent another PR which fixed a link which was 404 20:39:58 stassats, sorry, as for me its non-problem 20:39:59 stassats: what is the macro problem? 20:40:20 AeroNotix: no doc update, no merge, sorry 20:40:31 H4ns: there are docs attached. 20:40:33 Bike: can't understand code without expanding macros 20:40:44 expanding macros can have unwanted side effects 20:41:00 H4ns: https://github.com/AeroNotix/drakma/commit/28dab0a4e8f538c7befd162a58f306531d634744#L1R380 20:41:00 AeroNotix: i'm not talking about the docstrings. it is the documentation that i need to be updated. 20:41:09 H4ns: oh it needs generating ok 20:41:10 how common are macros that have side effects in expansion? that seems like something people shouldn't do anyway 20:41:22 AeroNotix: the docstrings are generated from the docstrings, not the other way round. 20:41:28 Bike: interning constructed symbols is quite common 20:41:29 oh really 20:41:34 but yeah, i see what you mean *grumbles at macrolet* 20:41:43 stassats: that's enough to worry about? 20:42:44 -!- clmsy [~clmsy@212.57.9.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:42:44 that's what's common 20:42:58 -!- ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:43:22 stassats, not sure how relevant it is. but intellij has plugin for clojure 20:43:31 ozzloy [~ozzloy@ozzloy.lifeafterking.org] has joined #lisp 20:43:31 -!- ozzloy [~ozzloy@ozzloy.lifeafterking.org] has quit [Changing host] 20:43:31 ozzloy [~ozzloy@unaffiliated/ozzloy] has joined #lisp 20:43:32 -!- _d3f [~gnu@ip-static-94-242-252-66.as5577.net] has quit [Quit: *buff*] 20:43:34 maybe should look into that. 20:43:47 not relevant at all 20:44:23 i know what i'm doing, don't talk me down 20:45:37 well, ignorance is a bliss. i'm not trying to talk you down or whatever. just handed another source of ideas maybe 20:46:38 -!- alezost [~user@128-70-201-90.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:46:49 if you want modern ide making plugin for some of them makes complete sense instead of re-inventing the wheel. much of infrastructure can be re-used and effort can go into interesting things :-P 20:46:57 -!- Hydan [~Adium@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:47:36 (mind you, before you 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freiksenet [~freiksene@freiksenet.com] has joined #lisp 22:28:07 echo-are` [~user@123.120.238.0] has joined #lisp 22:30:05 -!- echo-area [~user@123.120.238.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:30:26 what does this mean?: The name CHEMICALAMBDA does not designate any package. 22:30:42 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-134-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30:56 it means exactly that 22:30:57 -!- echo-are` is now known as echo-area 22:31:25 ubikation: 'chemicallambda:x gives that error. 22:31:44 s/ll/l/ 22:32:04 eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-134-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 22:32:52 it's intermittent though. sometimes (asdf:load-system :chemicalambda) gives me that error but (ql:quickload "chemicalambda") does not. 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It can happen with poorly-ordered loading specification. 22:37:23 -!- statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-224-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:39:12 ah. thanks! 22:41:51 -!- victor_lowther [~victorlow@143.166.116.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving IRC - dircproxy 1.2.0] 22:43:59 void64 [~luke@178.122.162.66] has joined #lisp 22:50:58 -!- gleag [~gleag@71.175.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:51:42 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@internet2.cznet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:52:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-134-191.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:35 -!- arare [~Aramur@153.68.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com] has quit [Quit: arare] 22:55:04 -!- knob [~knob@76.76.202.244] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:01:53 yrk [~user@c-50-133-134-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:02:08 -!- yrk [~user@c-50-133-134-220.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:02:08 yrk [~user@pdpc/supporter/student/yrk] has joined #lisp 23:02:24 -!- seangrov` [~user@160.sub-70-197-8.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:03:55 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:04:45 -!- WarWeasle [~Kaltara@162.72.14.206] has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 23:05:13 -!- segv- [~mb@95-91-243-211-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:06 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:08:32 pillton [~user@140.253.50.147] has joined #lisp 23:09:37 -!- doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:16:30 sz0 [~user@94.55.194.230] has joined #lisp 23:16:42 -!- yakov_ [~yakov@37-144-231-236.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:19:06 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 23:20:04 resttime [~rest@isr5192.urh.uiuc.edu] has joined #lisp 23:20:31 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu] has joined #lisp 23:21:20 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: ZzZ] 23:21:42 -!- sz0 [~user@94.55.194.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:23:05 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 23:23:25 cory786 [~cory@107-219-7-73.lightspeed.toldoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 23:24:13 -!- smazga [~acrid@64.55.45.194] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.3.4] 23:32:38 seangrov` [~user@2600:1010:b01d:20be:8c59:fa2e:462:771e] has joined #lisp 23:33:02 fridim_ [~fridim@bas2-montreal07-2925317871.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 23:33:42 Lefeni [~Lefeni@c-0941e555.143-16-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lisp 23:35:19 -!- jlongster [~user@pool-173-53-114-190.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:36:40 -!- Trenif [~Lefeni@c-0941e555.143-16-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:39:39 -!- Denommus [~user@unaffiliated/denommus] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:40:54 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@120.153.211.25] has joined #lisp 23:41:16 -!- travisrodman [~travisrod@17.223.151.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:45:30 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 23:48:38 -!- seangrov` [~user@2600:1010:b01d:20be:8c59:fa2e:462:771e] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:49:33 -!- paddymahoney [~patrick@24-52-232-230.cable.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:50:01 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:50:12 travisrodman [~travisrod@17.223.151.202] has joined #lisp 23:50:56 paddymahoney [~patrick@24-52-232-230.cable.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 23:51:24 -!- pillton [~user@140.253.50.147] has left #lisp 23:55:29 pillton [~user@140.253.50.147] has joined #lisp 23:59:33 danielszmulewicz [~danielszm@185.3.146.143] has joined #lisp