00:00:28 -!- harish [~harish@175.156.118.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:00:45 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:08:16 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@216.113.168.141] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:13:07 -!- Munksgaard [~philip@shop3.diku.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:13:19 wbooze__ [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-160-229.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 00:13:23 echo-area [~user@123.120.233.39] has joined #lisp 00:15:42 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-151-71.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:18:35 -!- Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5B2B2D81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19:32 does anyone know what to do to not get a type error doing something like this? http://paste.lisp.org/display/138399 using the trunk version of CCL via slime and whatever version of Ironclad one gets through quicklisp 00:19:40 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:19:41 on Windows, on the off chance it matters 00:24:02 probably the array needs an element type of (unsigned-byte 8) 00:24:10 -!- s00pcan [~chris@108-208-64-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:24:12 nialo: you need to create a vector of the right type. the #( reader macro doesn't build an unsigned byte vector. perhaps you can coerce it? 00:25:22 -!- clog [~nef@bespin.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:25:39 antonv_ [5d7d2a74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.42.116] has joined #lisp 00:25:51 (make-array 4 :element-type '(unsigned-byte 8) :initial-contents '(1 2 3 4)) 00:26:20 Bike: not exactly terse, but it should work :) 00:27:54 clog [~nef@bespin.org] has joined #lisp 00:29:42 -!- wbooze__ [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-160-229.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:29:50 nialo: don't use libraries that type check too strongly their sequences (under the false pretence of "optimizing". For what? Speed? All the processing time gain they hoped to earn have been wasted time for you and use million times over!!!) 00:30:18 s/use/us/ 00:30:24 wow look at all them exclamation points 00:30:40 And I elided an expletive. 00:30:59 That said, good night. 00:31:34 madnificent: well if you wanted you could make #[] or something read bytevectors, i guess. 00:31:55 actually if you had the numeric argument be a width that might be kinda nice. 00:32:13 s00pcan [~chris@108-208-64-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 00:32:23 What about not fucking with the users, and just benefiting from the genericity of lisp operators? 00:36:23 -!- flip216_ [~marek@86.59.100.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37:05 It's worthless if it isn't fast enough 00:37:18 well, I'd be happy to not use it, but I don't know of another library with AES in it 00:37:35 Provide octet vectors 00:37:35 so I think figuring out the type stupidity is easier than implementing AES :P 00:37:41 Bike: i was not commenting on your skills :) 00:37:55 er, what? 00:38:02 good night pjb 00:38:21 bike: what do you mean by "numeric argument" there? 00:38:42 nialo: dispatch macro characters have a numeric argument, like 2 in #2a((1 1) (1 0)) 00:39:25 so it would look like #8{1 2 3 4) for a bytevector, or #32{3 1891 7} for a 'word' vector 00:39:32 Bike: i was wanting a more terse solution to be built in. nialo starts from a rather nice abstraction which uses #(...) and then he has to switch to something much more verbose. you can abstract it to a function etc etc, but it was just an afterthought (so now that i've blown it way out of proportion, i'll shut my mouth about it) 00:40:06 madnificent: i know, i was just considring how to make it terse again without cursing out ironclad. 00:41:36 Bike: how about a function? (defun bytevector (&rest args) (make-array (length args) :element-type '(unsigned-byte 8) :initial-contents args)) => (bytevector 1 2 3 4) ;; no magic involved 00:41:46 #8(1 2 3 4) is actually pretty reasonable, I like it :) now I just need to learn how to write that sort of macro :P 00:41:48 thanks! 00:42:04 Bike: but #8 has much more sugar indeed. 00:42:10 -!- s00pcan [~chris@108-208-64-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:42:11 madnificent: you've got a point there. 00:42:24 plus you could do (defun bytevector (width &rest values) ...) in the obvious way. 00:42:31 *Xach* often makes a function like (defun octet-vector (&rest octets) (make-array (length octets) :element-type '(unsigned-byte 8) :initial-contents octets)) 00:43:10 Xach: then perhaps it belongs in a library like Alexandria or something similar 00:43:25 it is pretty trivial. 00:43:39 probably one of those repl-only functions xach mentioned in that one blog post? 00:44:15 kpreid [~kpreid@50-196-148-101-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 00:50:22 -!- AeroNotix [~xeno@abol147.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Uploading hax.....] 00:52:10 -!- cscorp [~csorp@c-98-230-174-67.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: cscorp] 00:52:45 s00pcan [~chris@108-208-64-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 00:56:13 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 00:56:48 Corvidium [~cosman246@c-24-143-118-11.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #lisp 00:56:48 -!- carlo5m [~carlo5m@c-71-198-252-62.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:39 -!- 16WAAUZUL [~quazimodo@c27-253-100-110.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00:31 -!- quazimodo [~quazimodo@c27-253-100-110.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:03:24 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:06:23 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 01:06:42 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d856e53.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I've been googling but I can't really seem to find any helpful tutorials. does anyone know of a good series of blog posts or tutorials related to this? thank you! 02:18:07 ubikation: there are examples in the source tree and manual 02:18:18 ubikation: I am right now writting some abcl<->java code 02:18:26 Bike: thanks! I guess I didn't look that carefully. 02:18:34 and also suffer from lack of such overview 02:19:06 ubikation: abcl provides 3 ways to deal with java 02:19:23 antonv_: where are you? I've been trying to wrap my head around the jimport/jlist utility macros 02:19:43 1 - the lowest level, functions like java:jcall, and so on 02:20:05 ubikation: what are you trying to do? 02:20:16 I am trying to call akka from abcl 02:20:59 the second way is called JSS - abcl contrib allowing you to write (#"toString" java-obj) 02:21:34 the third is jifli - another contrid for java interop syntax 02:22:01 ubikation: this info is just for overview 02:22:13 is any specific method better than the rest? or does it depend on your goal? 02:22:20 I don't remember details of these tools 02:22:36 ubikation: I don't often use them, so can't compre 02:22:51 I like jfli for code completion 02:22:55 antonv_: well thank you very much! I've been honestly just copy/pasting stuff until I get something to work... slow progress but at least I'm slowly moving somewhere 02:23:17 which one is jfli? 02:23:21 jss is good because the resulting lisp code is quite short 02:23:33 oh the third one, sorry 02:23:52 http://jfli.sourceforge.net/ 02:24:51 antonv_: thank you so much! 02:24:55 ubikation: to use JSS or JFLI you need to load the contribs firs 02:24:57 (require :abcl-contrib) 02:25:13 then (require :jss) or (require :jfli) 02:25:51 flip216 [~marek@217.196.73.213] has joined #lisp 02:31:51 jack_rabbit [~kyle@c-98-253-60-75.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:32:59 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33:08 ubikation: example how to read excel files: http://netzhansa.blogspot.com/2013/03/dealing-with-excel-files-from-common.html 02:33:17 ubikation: it uses java:jcall 02:33:38 maybe it's easier than learn jfli or jss 02:33:57 right now I personally use java:jcall 02:34:09 why? 02:37:22 because I don't how to start with jfli 02:37:28 have never used jss 02:37:36 and I just need to call several methods 02:39:33 -!- Oladon [~Oladon@c-76-120-105-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:42:38 -!- tolk [~user@host54.190-31-2.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:44:14 -!- joneshf-work [~joneshf@mail.concordusapps.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44:40 -!- zacharias_ [~zacharias@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:53:04 antonv_: thank you for your suggestions 02:53:22 ubikation: you are welcome 02:54:33 sykopomp [~sykopomp@unaffiliated/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 02:56:29 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 02:56:44 Harag [~Thunderbi@197.87.147.124] has joined #lisp 02:56:55 -!- sykopomp` [~sykopomp@unaffiliated/sykopomp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:57:28 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:58:19 harish_ [~harish@175.156.118.29] has joined #lisp 03:00:05 -!- mshroyer [~mshroyer@legolas.paleogene.net] has left #lisp 03:05:59 -!- away_sondr3 [~sondr3@2a00:dcc0:eda:3754:247:55:4d94:47fa] has quit [Quit: QUIT:Reason::Probably a crash] 03:09:33 quazimodo [~quazimodo@c27-253-100-110.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #lisp 03:09:35 quazimod1 [~quazimodo@c27-253-100-110.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #lisp 03:11:26 -!- DalekBaldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:14:24 -!- moto9 [~ml@p3E9E0382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:15:32 -!- Vicfred [~Vicfred@189.232.25.168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:18:14 Kruppe [~user@CPE602ad0938e9a-CM602ad0938e97.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lisp 03:19:34 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:20:34 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 03:21:02 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@116.228.29.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:21:29 nilsi [~nilsi@5.254.131.92] has joined #lisp 03:29:59 moto9 [~ml@p3E9E1F5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 03:32:11 DalekBaldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #lisp 03:33:47 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@5070B859.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 03:33:54 -!- walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:35:14 Oladon [~Oladon@c-98-245-40-6.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 03:40:10 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 03:42:36 -!- NihilistDandy [~ND@c-24-128-161-213.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: NihilistDandy] 03:43:33 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:49:04 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:55:31 Bike [~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 03:57:28 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:58:32 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 03:58:36 -!- cheryllium [~chatzilla@c-69-249-253-220.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0a1/20130809030203]] 04:02:07 -!- boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:05:16 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@5.254.131.92] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08:32 nilsi [~nilsi@116.228.29.66] has joined #lisp 04:09:48 -!- McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:12:20 McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has joined #lisp 04:18:56 pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has joined #lisp 04:25:09 -!- pierre1 [~pierre1@179.218.154.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:25:27 dtw [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has joined #lisp 04:29:32 -!- doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:32:40 Ryan_Burnside [~ryan@63-153-65-183.hlna.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 04:33:10 Well, my LOGO functionality in Lisp is coming along. You can see the drawing is working. http://i.imgur.com/hTERqyu.png 04:33:37 this is "forward 100" "right turn 150 degrees" repeated 12 times then exported to .svg 04:33:45 Have you seen the parallel logo dialects? 04:33:55 I've not. 04:35:51 This was just kind of an idea. I started LOGO on the Apple ][e in school and wanted to try it to learn more Lisp. 04:36:09 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 04:36:47 So I started writing a .svg export and very small "turtle" struct with support functions. 04:37:10 I believe in open sores if anyone wants what I have so far... 04:37:18 ;) 04:37:26 good malapropism 04:37:40 Sounds like a fine idea -- enables drainage. 04:38:25 test file: http://pastebin.com/dBRFwM92 04:38:25 logo_lib: http://pastebin.com/YN9deQ3t 04:38:37 I still need practice. Probably doing some *bad* things there. 04:39:42 I'm debating storing the paths inside the turtles rather than simply having them emit a point list each time they move. 04:44:36 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 04:47:13 One other thing, apparently .svg doesn't like negative numbers. So I offset the turtle 300 units for testing. 04:48:31 -!- two- [~1@c-67-171-131-23.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:48:36 Ryan_Burnside: I bet it's more that you haven't specified the size / coordinate space and so it defaulted to something whose lower bounds are 0 04:50:08 Ryan_Burnside: you can specify an arbitrary coordinate system using viewBox=" " on the svg element 04:50:47 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:54 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:51:22 iLogical [~iLogical@gateway/tor-sasl/ilogical] has joined #lisp 04:51:44 -!- Myk267 [~myk@unaffiliated/myk267] has left #lisp 04:51:45 -!- igotnolegs- [~igotnoleg@67-2-110-151.slkc.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/] 04:51:58 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 04:52:07 igotnolegs- [~igotnoleg@67-2-110-151.slkc.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 04:52:18 awesome, thank you very much kpreid 04:53:26 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:53:35 also, you should use a real xml library rather than emitting strings. 04:54:20 Fake XML often breaks unexpectedly. 04:54:21 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ho1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:54:39 Oh? 04:54:39 It's one reason that json is less horrible to work with. 04:54:46 -!- Kruppe [~user@CPE602ad0938e9a-CM602ad0938e97.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:55:47 Sure, think about all of the characters that need to be represented with entities, for example. 04:57:20 Like unicode and such? 04:58:02 or just a < not in a tag? 04:58:37 Yeah, I can see that happening. 04:58:44 Especially if the user is entering data. 04:58:49 No, there are a vast number of them. 04:59:10 So often a fake-xml feel will work for a while and then when someone with a funny name shows up, *boom*. 04:59:16 s/feel/feed/ 05:00:16 So, my stance is "please do not supply data in xml, because you are too stupid to do it right, and will lie to me about using a validator". 05:00:17 -!- tactile75 [~tactile75@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: tactile75] 05:01:23 Right.. 05:01:42 My exporting is just a means to an end really I'd never put it in a serious program. 05:01:59 Just needed a quick way to get some graphics since I've not learned any of the GUI bindings yet. 05:02:01 Oh, I'm not complaining -- just justifying kpreid's suggestion. 05:02:55 So would the library be a simple .lisp file or something the user would have to have compiled for their system? 05:03:03 I've not had hands on with libraries yet. 05:03:06 -!- bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:03:39 Jubb [~Jubb@24-151-75-237.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #lisp 05:05:18 taborite50 [~Taborite5@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 05:06:00 I've been thinking that drawing things with a logo like language could be extended (with a lot of work) into a 2D computer drafting program. 05:07:26 I hear that people also do works of art in microsoft paint. 05:09:07 I did pixel art and spriting many years ago. 05:09:16 You might see if the pixeljoint forum is still up. 05:10:09 I guess your point is that masterpieces come from very small simple building blocks being abstracted into layers. 05:10:09 -!- taborite50 [~Taborite5@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:10:27 pixels to sprites, lines to blueprints 05:10:34 Actually, it was more that people do all sorts of bloody stupid things from sheer perversity. 05:10:51 Which is not a criticism; just an observation. 05:11:40 So you could probably build a CAD system in logo, but ... would you time be better invested in hammering nails into your hand or perhaps biting goats? 05:12:23 ;) 05:12:53 The later two options would not be as mentally fascinating. 05:13:31 http://www.pixeljoint.com/ 05:13:32 Well, then you're good to go :) 05:14:04 http://www.pixeljoint.com/p/2109.htm my OLD stuff 05:14:05 -!- antonv_ [5d7d2a74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.42.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:16:03 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@gateway/tor-sasl/ilogical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17:45 nowhere_man [~pierre@5070B859.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #lisp 05:19:43 -!- benny [~user@maidenhead3.tunnelr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:20:22 filicoid84 [~filicoid8@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 05:24:08 pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.27.101] has joined #lisp 05:24:09 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.27.101] has quit [Changing host] 05:24:09 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #lisp 05:25:07 -!- echo-area [~user@123.120.233.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:30:04 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #lisp 05:30:32 aluuu [~aluuu@109.105.175.57] has joined #lisp 05:35:07 This is an interesting question, is there an easy way to allow [ ] in a macro then replace them with ( )? LOGO sort of has [ ] instead of parens. 05:35:24 you can define reader macros, yeah. 05:35:51 so, REPEAT 90 [ items ] becomes (repeat 90 items) 05:36:06 oh. that's kind of different. 05:36:26 At that point does it being in lisp even matter? 05:36:27 -!- filicoid84 [~filicoid8@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: filicoid84] 05:36:43 mishoo [~mishoo@93.113.190.121] has joined #lisp 05:36:44 Just learning Lisp for the sake of Learning Lisp. 05:36:46 :) 05:37:58 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-168-203.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 05:38:11 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@116.228.29.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38:39 nilsi [~nilsi@5.254.135.84] has joined #lisp 05:41:41 -!- Jubb [~Jubb@24-151-75-237.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:42:08 -!- arubin [~arubin@99-114-192-172.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 05:44:18 nilsi_ [~nilsi@116.228.29.66] has joined #lisp 05:45:25 amenti23 [~Amenti23@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 05:46:04 benny [~user@maidenhead3.tunnelr.com] has joined #lisp 05:47:50 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@5.254.135.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:18 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:24 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 06:00:36 -!- aluuu [~aluuu@109.105.175.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:00:40 -!- boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:43 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #lisp 06:01:59 -!- joast [~rick@cpe-24-160-56-92.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:05:38 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 06:07:10 -!- nug700 [~nug700@174-26-155-133.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 06:07:20 boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #lisp 06:09:06 -!- kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:13:33 Anyone know if Lisp is still used at MIT? It would be a shame if not. 06:13:46 Especially considering the history in their AI lab. 06:14:10 sdemarre [~serge@105.146-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #lisp 06:14:35 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:15:06 they use python in the intro course now, if that's what you mean 06:15:07 -!- amenti23 [~Amenti23@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: amenti23] 06:15:48 -!- k0001 [~k0001@200.117.223.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:16:39 Ah, Python's lambda's are quite weak. :) 06:17:34 aluuu [~aluuu@109.105.175.57] has joined #lisp 06:19:01 I might like to purchase Successful Lisp. Any thoughts on that title? 06:20:01 never heard of it, sorry 06:20:18 clutterer63 [~clutterer@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 06:21:25 I like to keep a paper library. I just can't easily get on board with digital copy. 06:21:55 Especially when you don't have full control over the eReader and it belches out ads by a parent company... 06:22:25 Ryan_Burnside: what do you expect to get from 'successful lisp'? 06:22:25 -!- clutterer63 [~clutterer@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:23:13 Ryan_Burnside: if you're looking for a beginner's text, 'practical common lisp' is the mostly canonical answer. for advanced topics, 'paradigmes of artificial intelligence programming' or 'on lisp' are generally recommended. 06:24:03 Ryan_Burnside: i certainly have a number of lisp books that i have for the lisp in the title. if that is why you want from the book, go ahead :) 06:24:29 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:24:42 -!- aluuu [~aluuu@109.105.175.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:26:15 I wasn't sure. I tend to read a lot of books on a programming language. 06:26:24 So I can understand different author's tecniques. 06:26:39 I have 5 or 6 on C++ alone. 2 or 3 on Python... 06:26:49 Ryan_Burnside: i'd also recommend sonya keenes book on clos, or certainly amop 06:27:11 eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-212-106-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has joined #lisp 06:27:24 nug700 [~nug700@174-26-155-133.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 06:27:30 Yes, I finished Gentle Intro to Symbolic Computation, left a bit sad they didn't cover CLOS 06:27:44 Just structs... 06:28:00 I'll begin Practical Common Lisp soon. 06:28:06 Did the first few chapters. 06:28:22 bitonic [~user@arg87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 06:30:27 Bike_ [~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 06:31:54 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:33:19 -!- Bike_ is now known as Bike 06:35:23 way-up32 [~way-up32@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 06:35:49 -!- DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:37:12 DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has joined #lisp 06:39:11 aluuu [~aluuu@77.242.110.178] has joined #lisp 06:41:06 -!- resttime [~rest@adsl-99-135-190-144.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: resttime] 06:41:16 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-222-34-38.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: journey!!] 06:42:46 jtza8 [~jtza8@105-236-121-164.access.mtnbusiness.co.za] has joined #lisp 06:43:59 I'm reading the book that was posted on /r/lisp the other day, "loving common lisp" 06:44:40 skipped over the generic intro to the language, but so far I've gotten my three dollars worth out of the web programming and database examples 06:45:21 Is it available in print? 06:45:34 you can download the pdf and print it out I guess 06:47:11 https://leanpub.com/lovinglisp 06:47:12 -!- way-up32 [~way-up32@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: way-up32] 06:49:11 Looks solid. :) 06:49:40 -!- sdemarre [~serge@105.146-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:50:21 redared00 [~redared00@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 06:50:42 -!- Ryan_Burnside [~ryan@63-153-65-183.hlna.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:50:52 -!- bitonic [~user@arg87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:52:06 bitonic [~user@arg87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 06:52:08 the source code could stand to be organized into asdf systems though 07:03:14 -!- kanru [~kanru@118-163-10-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09:08 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:10:42 -!- boogie [~boogie@ip68-101-218-78.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13:19 kiuma [~kiuma@2-230-138-74.ip202.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 07:13:30 ph88 [5597cc14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.151.204.20] has joined #lisp 07:13:50 -!- bitonic [~user@arg87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:13:51 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:14:39 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 07:23:41 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:28:23 holycow [~holycow@host-216-251-135-194.bchsia.skywaywest.net] has joined #lisp 07:32:32 Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 07:34:23 pnpuff [~scramble@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 07:34:41 -!- pnpuff [~scramble@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has left #lisp 07:39:42 hi all 07:40:02 i am reading out a value returned by a function in a framework. it returns the following: 07:40:05 #S(PAL:VEC :X 126.0 :Y 108.0) 07:40:34 what is the #S at the beginning? i have not seen that notation before 07:41:13 ehu [~ehu@089144206051.atnat0015.highway.bob.at] has joined #lisp 07:41:44 A struct, it would seem. 07:41:53 oh! googling. 07:42:05 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17247540/common-lisp-slot-value-for-defstruct-structures 07:42:05 -!- redared00 [~redared00@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: redared00] 07:42:41 heh, faster than me. thanks! reading. 07:45:19 copiague22 [~Copiague2@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 07:53:46 statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-024-209.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 07:56:35 chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #lisp 08:02:28 nha [~prefect@p3E9E2495.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 08:03:08 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 08:03:31 -!- eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-212-106-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:08:52 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:09:59 -!- ehu [~ehu@089144206051.atnat0015.highway.bob.at] has quit [] 08:11:20 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 08:15:19 -!- ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:16:16 zoek1 [~zoek1@189.193.234.82] has joined #lisp 08:19:11 -!- Harag [~Thunderbi@197.87.147.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:40:47 minion: memo for Ryan_Burnside: of course 'lisp' is still taught at MIT, but not for newbies or non-CS students: http://web.mit.edu/alexmv/6.S184/ 08:40:47 Remembered. I'll tell Ryan_Burnside when he/she/it next speaks. 08:40:57 the common only get python. 08:41:11 -!- nilsi_ [~nilsi@116.228.29.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:41:52 -!- kirin` [telex@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-xzsjitgrvagvvdck] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:42:47 kirin` [telex@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-jxivylibkqstzeht] has joined #lisp 08:51:29 bear213 [bea14741@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.161.71.65] has joined #lisp 08:52:15 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #lisp 08:52:17 schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-049-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 08:52:40 pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.252.80] has joined #lisp 08:52:40 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.252.80] has quit [Changing host] 08:52:40 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #lisp 08:53:50 pjb: interesting 08:53:53 thank you for the link 08:55:46 Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5B2B08A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 08:56:14 -!- setmeaway [setmeaway@119.201.52.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56:22 -!- bear213 [bea14741@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.161.71.65] has left #lisp 08:58:35 bear213 [bea14741@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.161.71.65] has joined #lisp 09:00:57 on that topic, this is a must-read: http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/link/2110/why-mit-switched-from-scheme-to-python 09:02:41 shridhar [Shridhar@nat/redhat/x-jzmztsckwhfsuney] has joined #lisp 09:06:08 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 09:07:38 heh. interesting point. 09:08:01 teggi [~teggi@123.20.106.65] has joined #lisp 09:10:25 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:13:03 -!- rurufufuss [~rurufufus@115-64-27-246.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:16:41 maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has joined #lisp 09:17:57 -!- zoek1 [~zoek1@189.193.234.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:18:17 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:18:45 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 09:19:43 zoek1 [~zoek1@189.128.215.3] has joined #lisp 09:23:57 echo-area [~user@114.254.100.55] has joined #lisp 09:32:06 -!- nug700 [~nug700@174-26-155-133.phnx.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 09:33:54 Munksgaard [~philip@80-71-132-106.u.parknet.dk] has joined #lisp 09:35:32 -!- Karl_dscc [~localhost@p5B2B08A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39:06 -!- Ulysses22222 [~daniel@5.144.62.3] has quit [Quit: Ulysses22222] 09:39:29 BitPuffin [~quassel@c80-216-147-180.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 09:39:31 Ulysses22222 [~daniel@5.144.62.3] has joined #lisp 09:40:00 milosn [~milosn@user-5af50bb3.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #lisp 09:41:20 -!- holycow [~holycow@host-216-251-135-194.bchsia.skywaywest.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:41:29 -!- Ulysses22222 is now known as danielszmulewicz 09:41:36 doomlord [~doomlod@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 09:43:56 -!- robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 09:53:16 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-049-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:54:17 benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d85b7ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 09:59:48 -!- jack_rabbit [~kyle@c-98-253-60-75.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:05:40 -!- add^_ [~user@m5-241-134-103.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 10:06:09 -!- bear213 [bea14741@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.161.71.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:06:38 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-121-180.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 10:08:28 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d85b7ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Good night 17:45:12 Time to sleep 17:45:28 time to party 17:49:25 -!- nha [~prefect@p3E9E2495.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:50:28 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@5070B859.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:05 nowhere_man [~pierre@5070B859.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #lisp 18:13:54 Hi. I'm using yason to parse a drakma json stream, and once in a while, this weird "\# fell through ECASE expression." keeps popping up. Is there a way I can fix this? 18:15:16 peterhil [~peterhil@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c02b-45.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #lisp 18:17:02 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c02b-45.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:09 ck`` [~ck@dslb-094-219-235-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 18:19:16 pranavrc: use the v key in sldb to jump to the source of the error. 18:19:42 Determine what variable the symbol named "#" comes from, and what expression set that variable. 18:20:14 Ah from json. Check your json data, it probably has some unexpected syntax/character. 18:23:25 pjb, I'm not sure how I'd check that, because I'm getting it from a rest api, and checking it with the browser gives me the absolute same json results every time 18:24:02 It's a cached static page with a json object, i think 18:24:48 -!- arnsa [~arnsa@78-63-18-208.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:25:30 is it possible to initialize an array of ratios to 0? 18:25:55 killerboy [~mateusz@staticline-31-183-97-89.toya.net.pl] has joined #lisp 18:26:14 blackwol` [~blackwolf@ool-4574e84c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 18:27:00 sabra: what makes you ask that? 18:27:06 do you have a difficulty doing that? 18:28:45 sabra: (make-array 42 :element-type 'ratio :initial-element 0) 18:29:11 that's not entirely correct, 0 is not a ratio 18:29:41 Outch, right. 18:29:46 So you can't. 18:30:09 a t-vector can be an array of ratios too 18:30:14 initialize it to 1/2, the simpliest ratio. 18:30:31 -!- blackwolf [~blackwolf@ool-4574e84c.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:30:46 Or initialize an array of rationals instead. 18:30:49 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-160-22.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:31:04 pjb, that's actually a whitespace, there. The invalid character 18:31:26 pranavrc: notice the difference between #\ and \# ! 18:31:34 #\ is a space character. \# is a symbol. 18:31:49 since RATIO will be upgraded to T, there isn't much sense in specifying :element-type 'ratio 18:31:53 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-160-22.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 18:31:56 -!- maxter [~maxter@gaffeless.chaperon.volia.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:31:59 That will depend on the implementation. 18:32:01 so isn't that a space character that's throwing up the error? 18:32:10 Nothing forces an implementation to upgrade ratios to T AFAIK. 18:32:24 pranavrc: you write \# originally. So what it is? 18:32:35 2 dimensional array. I can initialize with double-floats, but wanted to avoid playing the math games with floats. 18:32:52 sabra: use rational instead of ratio! 18:32:54 not having any sense to do so forces it to do so 18:33:02 pjb, ugh, sorry. That should have been #\ 18:33:11 thanks 18:33:30 sabra: your description is quite strange 18:33:32 pranavrc: ok. So there must be a space at the wrong place in the json data, or a bug in the parser or scanner. 18:34:08 Alright, I think it must be the latter because this only happens once in a while 18:34:30 and with one specific uri 18:34:48 sabra: you should initialize it with the data type which you expect to use 18:35:06 pranavrc: try with a different json parser! 18:35:25 stassats: trying to avoid precision losses if possible and do all math with ratios. The thought being: If ratio is available, why not use ratios 18:35:27 pjb, yeah, gonna do that, thanks for your help! 18:35:30 http://www.cliki.net/site/search?query=json 18:36:50 sabra: arrays can hold objects of any type, included arrays themselves 18:37:27 Unless they're array of different upgraded element types of course. 18:37:32 sabra: so the question "can it hold X" is always true, unless it's a specialized array 18:38:55 and to answer "why not use ratios": they are slower, consume more memory 18:39:31 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: ] 18:39:32 stassats: understood. It is a trade-off between precision and time and memory. 18:39:44 The question of "why not to use ratios?" is anwered easily when you realize that it's not completed under addition! 18:39:57 (+ ratio1 ratio2) may be NOT a ratio! 18:40:09 So it's rather silly to use this type in the first place. 18:40:17 Use rationals instead! 18:40:37 pjb: lightbulb now goes off in my head. That ou and stassats 18:40:42 -!- killerboy [~mateusz@staticline-31-183-97-89.toya.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:40:47 pjb: lightbulb now goes off in my head. Thank you and stassats 18:41:34 sabra: to resolve possible confusion caused by pjb: rationals include integers and ratios, i.e. both 1 and 1/4 18:42:24 killerboy [~mateusz@staticline-31-183-97-89.toya.net.pl] has joined #lisp 18:43:31 stassats: understood. Thank you for your help. 18:45:28 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:21 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-049-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:46:31 -!- k0001_ [~k0001@host130.190-226-198.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:46:36 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 18:49:18 now back to thinking about the fastest way to total and subtotal rows and columns and whatever the 3rd dimensional vector would be called in a 3 dimensional array. My looping constructs work, just wondering if there is a faster way 18:49:53 simd? 18:52:01 ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:52:25 -!- spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:52:56 row column planes. 18:54:46 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 18:55:00 k0001 [~k0001@host130.190-226-198.telecom.net.ar] has joined #lisp 18:55:15 cscorp [~csorp@c-98-230-174-67.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:56:10 sabra: so you have a "cube", and it has 6 faces, but opposite faces will have the same sums, so you need 3 faces. that is, 3 2-d arrays to keep the sums. You can visit each cell of the cube, and sum it to the corresponding cell in the 3 2-d arrays. 18:56:14 arnsa [~arnsa@78-63-18-208.static.zebra.lt] has joined #lisp 18:56:29 stassats: no. But my boss probably thinks I should be able to figure that out and make his simulations run like a graphics card. I occassionally remind him that I am really just a dba, not some CS wizard like the guys on this channel 18:57:15 Yes, bosses have some strange ideas sometimes :-) 18:57:51 BitPuffin [~quassel@c80-216-147-180.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 18:57:59 jeti [~user@p548E9C28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 19:00:49 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:52 -!- wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:01:27 nialo [~nialo@ool-18bbb124.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 19:01:56 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 19:02:22 wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has joined #lisp 19:03:24 m104 [~m104@c-67-169-151-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:04:43 -!- k0001 [~k0001@host130.190-226-198.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:05:39 -!- wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has quit [Client Quit] 19:05:57 wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has joined #lisp 19:06:31 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: eternal darkness] 19:07:25 I'm trying to make the following code as fast as the C++ version: http://pastebin.com/xHLk3GPR 19:07:56 I'm not sure what is left to do to make this run faster 19:07:58 any ideas? 19:09:58 -!- BitPuffin [~quassel@c80-216-147-180.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:29 is there maybe something sbcl-specific I could use? 19:11:15 I'm also not sure if the runtime is slowing things down at this point 19:11:16 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:11:36 I'm in a 2x margin of C++ 19:13:51 fikusz: I don't think lisp can win for a simple code like this. But if you really want to see the difference, generate the assembly codes and compare them. 19:14:19 bege: I don't want to win, just get close as possible 19:14:40 -!- statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-010-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:14:47 -!- m104 [~m104@c-67-169-151-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: brb] 19:14:52 bege: It's already pretty close, so I guess I have to look at the assembly as you've suggested 19:18:08 bege: the issue is that while I can approximately understand the SBCL-generated assembly, the G++-generated version just doesn't make any sense to me 19:18:32 chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 19:19:11 also I'm not really sure if I'm using 'declare' correctly 19:19:33 in real code I've only seen it on the first line of defun-s 19:19:50 but they seem to work the way I used them 19:19:51 seangrove [~user@187.157.195.157] has joined #lisp 19:21:34 fikusz: your max-macro is bad 19:21:38 it evaluates twice 19:21:44 ngz [~user@91.224.148.150] has joined #lisp 19:21:47 kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has joined #lisp 19:21:52 stassats: good point! 19:22:07 and it shouldn't be a macro in the first place 19:22:35 stassats: It's just a macro so I can compare it to the equivalent cpp version 19:22:38 That is a nice catch! 19:22:40 stassats: which uses a template 19:23:19 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:23:34 what's the obvious way to fix this? something like the only-once macro? 19:23:57 macros are not equivalent to c++ template 19:24:06 just use a function, and declare it inline 19:24:26 what's the difference at runtime? 19:24:48 or just use MAX 19:25:12 the difference is that it doesn't evaluate things twice and doesn't need to do anything arcane like once-only 19:26:12 stassats: thanks, could you elaborate on how macro-s are not comparable to cpp templates? 19:26:32 i couldn't 19:27:05 stassats: AFAIK cpp templates generate code at compile-time, in a similar way to lisp macros 19:27:49 the cpp I'm racing against looks like this: http://pastebin.com/u74r4fJV 19:27:58 -!- kushal [~kdas@fedora/kushal] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:29:25 what's the point of doing (max x (1+ x))? 19:29:37 it'll always be (1+ x) 19:29:55 stassats: nothing, it's just a test 19:30:03 are you trying to see how well the compilers optimize deliberately bad code? 19:31:00 stassats: I just wanted to test the max macro with a bunch of numbers, this obvious example came to mind... 19:31:04 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:31:24 and if the compiler optimizes it away, then what will you be measuring? 19:31:43 stassats: the compiler doesn't optimize it away, I've checked 19:31:53 k0001 [~k0001@host130.190-226-198.telecom.net.ar] has joined #lisp 19:32:00 -!- chameco [~samuel@cpe-74-69-188-107.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:32:12 stassats: I've added the sum, because the compiler actually did optimize the comparisons away (in case of g++) 19:35:14 it uses SIMD, which makes it an unfair comparison as well 19:35:20 -!- wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:35:21 fikusz: Another thing is how you measure the timing. Do you also count the loading time of the binary? (asking as I don't see any time measurement codes in your posts) 19:35:30 wormphlegm [~wormphleg@24.130.9.50] has joined #lisp 19:36:42 bege: I'm doing a simple unix 'time' on the resulting binary and check the user time, which naturally includes the loading times of the runtime as well 19:37:34 fikusz: well, in that case the 2x difference is even surprising I would say. The sbcl binary is 40mb while the c++ bin is 8k. 19:37:56 For me sbcl time is 0.5s while the c++ is 3ms. 19:38:49 bege: I'm running both repeatedly, so both load from memory I guess 19:38:52 fikusz: so, it uses SIMD and optimizes away MAX 19:38:55 But you should find out while do you want to do this measurement anyway. :) 19:39:08 g++ 4.8.1 with -O3 19:39:57 hm, I'm wondering if ecl can beat sbcl on this one by using gcc as a backend 19:40:05 -!- splittist [~splittist@192-39.63-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.2.1] 19:40:07 robot-beethoven [~user@c-24-118-142-0.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:42:09 -!- Oladon [~Oladon@c-98-245-40-6.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:42:14 and you're measuring start up times 19:42:24 so, this benchmark is worthless 19:42:49 which is a common issue with benchmarks 19:43:01 stassats: I'm not after anything scientific, it's just a simple test for fun 19:43:10 stassats: figuring out how stuff works 19:43:41 fikusz: you can make it much faster in lisp, by writing: (defun result () (let ((x (1+ 100000001))) (/ (+ x (1+ x)) 2))) 19:44:00 is there anyway of doing a fair comparision? 19:44:01 no need to do those declare or optimize shit. Just use your brains. 19:44:33 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:45:07 pjb: I'm aware of this solution, it's not the result I'm after 19:45:26 s/+/*/ actually (*^.^*) 19:45:36 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:47 fikusz: so, the conclusion is, g++ has a vectorizer, sbcl doesn't, g++ is better at optimizing inequalities 19:45:48 pjb: Gauss, isn't it? 19:45:55 fikusz: but this is how you optimize thing in lisp and get much better results than in the other programming languages: 19:46:25 since it's so easy to write programs in lisp, you have time to think about better solution, instead of spending your time conforming to a compiler type checking and comma placement. 19:46:31 fikusz: yes. 19:46:41 Gauss, it was. 19:46:46 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 19:47:06 stassats: I understand, I mean I didn't even nearly understand the asm that g++ was generating. 19:48:16 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:25 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 19:52:14 sbcl is really impressive though, I didn't hope it would go this far 19:52:38 -!- doomlord_ [~servitor@host86-180-26-144.range86-180.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:54:06 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:54:06 -!- k0001 [~k0001@host130.190-226-198.telecom.net.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:54:36 fikusz: basically, g++ version adds 4 numbers at a time 19:55:25 stassats: are those ops in sse? 19:55:55 yes, if you're on an intel cpu 19:56:34 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:56:48 -!- Shinmera [~linus@xdsl-188-155-176-171.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:57:27 pjb: thinking about your suggestion on 3 separate arrays to hold the totals of the rows/columns/planes of a three dimensional array. Wondering about tradeoffs if the data array is a displaced array where the larger array keeps the sums as the additional cell in each vector 19:57:42 fikusz: Well, my g++ (4.6.3) using -O3 optimized the loop away completely. 19:57:52 Oladon [~Oladon@c-76-120-105-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:57:54 stassats: yes. I guess this could be done in sbcl as well with some effort. It already uses SSE instructions for floating-point math... 19:58:46 stassats: would be a nice 'summer of code' project 20:01:02 bege: how can you tell? I'm guessing I still have it from the assembly output of my version (4.8.1 20130725) 20:02:30 -!- seangrove [~user@187.157.195.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:02:34 punpckldq, punpckhdq: never heard of these before 20:02:54 -!- zacharias_ is now known as zacharias 20:03:42 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:05:11 -!- solidus_ [~sol@109.67.203.94] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:05:12 jrajav [~jrajav@user-0c6smgl.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 20:05:35 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-71-116-73-196.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 20:06:57 -!- jeti [~user@p548E9C28.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:07:15 yakov_ [~yakov@95-24-156-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #lisp 20:07:17 fikusz: Looking at the output of g++ -S -O3 fikusz.cpp, it simply moves the result into the register. 20:07:42 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host 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been loaded in that environment 21:55:04 as in, it works in slime but not when I do sbcl --script 21:55:29 well, you have a fix, just always run it slime! 21:55:55 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 21:55:56 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:01 *ltbarcly* sheds a single tear 21:56:06 but the reader error usually means something is not loaded or a reader macro is not set up 21:56:15 line numbers wouldn't help you 21:56:19 -!- zoek1 [~zoek1@189.193.234.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:56:24 sure it would 21:56:49 I'm using handler-bind to try to set a restart, but it says the restart isn't active where the error is thrown 21:57:01 so either I'm doing the restart wrong, or it's throwing the error from an unanticipated location 21:57:04 -!- Kruppe [~user@CPE602ad0938e9a-CM602ad0938e97.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:09 if I had line numbers I would know which one 21:57:42 LiamH [~none@pool-74-96-2-44.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 21:58:06 also, on a side note, the existence of tools that make it possible to deal with something doesn't make that thing ok to begin with 21:59:24 -!- killerboy [~mateusz@staticline-31-183-97-89.toya.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:59:36 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 21:59:36 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:36 first, set *break-on-signal* to t, otherwise you won't get anything useful 21:59:46 BitPuffin [~quassel@c80-216-147-180.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 22:00:04 -!- joast [~rick@cpe-24-160-56-92.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:00:48 killerboy [~mateusz@staticline-31-183-97-89.toya.net.pl] has joined #lisp 22:00:52 then there's the SOURCE command 22:01:07 Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has joined #lisp 22:01:39 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [Read 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