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There are 978 symbols in the COMMON-LISP package. My implementation defines a function/constant/parameter for about 750 of them so far. 01:07:20 lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 01:07:25 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 01:07:29 Of those 750 symbols that I've covered about 350 of them are defined in C++. 01:08:32 So I'm guestimating that in the end about 1/3 of the COMMON-LISP symbols end up being defined in C/C++ and 2/3 are defined in Common Lisp code. 01:08:42 -!- Denommus [~Denommus@unaffiliated/denommus] has quit [Quit: going to the intended recipient you are you are you are] 01:09:44 I'm sure SBCL defines more of the symbols in CL code - but SBCL has given up the ability to bootstrap without another Common Lisp compiler. 01:10:55 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:11:21 -!- banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:11:24 drmeister: would you like to build a running stumpwm using ECL ? i have been completely frustrated by ECL :( 01:11:45 What's a stumpwm? 01:12:04 a window manager writed using CL 01:12:32 No, I have other things I need to do with this - scientific programming things. 01:12:37 -!- dented42 [~dented42@opengroove.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:13:26 knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 01:13:33 i always suspect that ECL is ANSI compatible as CLISP,SBCL and CCL can build stumpwm very well except ECL 01:14:30 it's almost as if stumpwm uses non-ansi mechanisms and isn't a gold standard for ansi conformity 01:15:32 -!- knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:02 anyway i donot dare to use ECL in our product 01:16:29 knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 01:16:49 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:16:53 senj [~senj@S01060026f3e14440.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #lisp 01:17:18 because stumpwm is not very complicated 01:18:16 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 01:19:13 spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 01:19:22 dented42 [~dented42@opengroove.org] has joined #lisp 01:20:59 -!- knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:21:18 I'm a really big fan of ECL - I've spent a lot of time with the code and it is very clean - I've learned a lot from it. 01:22:03 knob [~knob@64.237.235.12] has joined #lisp 01:22:15 It just doesn't talk to C++ the way I need it to. But then, no Common Lisp implementations do. That's why I'm writing my own. 01:23:04 oh 01:23:16 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:23:16 -!- ericmathison [~ericmathi@172.15.249.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:23:25 i know little C++ 01:25:12 Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 01:25:13 -!- Vutral [ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 01:25:13 -!- spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:25:57 -!- Bike [~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:26:29 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:29:02 It's an awfully complicated language for what you get. CL has a lot more language features with a much simpler syntax. 01:29:09 Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined #lisp 01:30:46 drmeister: i always regard CL no syntax 01:31:17 you can programming in AST directly 01:32:21 Or that - it's a thing of beauty however you want to define it. 01:33:24 CL is VERY elegant if you used to parenthesis ... 01:35:41 however CL products has poor performance compared with C/C++,etc. 01:36:07 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:42 For most values of "performance", it depends on the CL, the C and the programmer. 01:39:57 So I'm told - if its true I think it's because C/C++ are stripped down languages that limit themselves to language features that more or less efficiently map onto machine language. 01:40:25 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 01:40:26 pkhuong: i.e., dwm/xmonad is faster than stumpwm and both need few RAM. 01:41:17 faster? we're talking about programs that spend the majority of their time waiting for input. 01:41:51 I've been thinking about this a lot lately because I'm writing a Common Lisp compiler that generates LLVM-IR (a generalized sort of assembly language). It's the same LLVM-IR that is generated by the Clang C/C++ compiler. It's interesting the kind of choices I see Clang make that I can't make because I need to support all these powerful/expressive but (currently for my implementation) expensive language feature 01:41:51 s. 01:42:10 Bike_ [~Glossina@67-5-246-217.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 01:42:16 Of course now powerful hardware donot care such a performance difference 01:42:57 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-141-22-158.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:43:01 spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 01:43:17 I'm really interested in the problem of how to express Common Lisp language features more efficiently in LLVM-IR. 01:44:03 shifty [~user@114-198-28-159.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #lisp 01:44:08 Stuff like allocating objects on the stack vs the heap, function calling with lambda list processing, generic function dispatch - etc. 01:44:19 antonv [5d7d2a74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.42.116] has joined #lisp 01:44:49 drmeister: how does SBCL do such a thing ? 01:45:08 -!- Bike_ is now known as Bike 01:45:33 The SBCL folks are bit-twiddlers - and I mean that in the best way. They work directly in assembly/machine language. 01:45:34 sbcl doesn't use llvm. 01:45:41 ooh, cool so like a clangish/llvmish lisp compiler? 01:45:55 zacts: Yes. 01:46:12 cool 01:46:37 -!- jangle [~jimmy1984@dsl-162.7-238.gtb.net] has quit [Quit: jangle] 01:46:38 By using LLVM I get to leverage all sorts of backend tools that the LLVM community has developed. 01:46:38 chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has joined #lisp 01:46:57 cool 01:47:03 I don't think anything in PCL involves the implementation language /directly/, just lots of impl hackery 01:47:18 Bike: What is PCL? 01:47:36 Is that SBCLs intermediate representation? 01:47:48 Uh, I forget what it stands for. The thing SBCL's CLOS is a warped version of. 01:47:56 (since you mentioned gf dispatch) 01:48:40 -!- spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:48:56 In ECL generic function dispatch is done in C - and I did it in C++ with a special hash table. 01:49:24 if you want to deal with llvm stuff more, I guess arithmetic would be a place to start. convert (+ fixnum fixnum) into llvm:add-fixnums and suchlike 01:50:25 Bike: Yeah - there's lots of optimizations that we could do in that realm. Currently I have C++ int's and GMP bignums. ECL uses GMPLIB as well. 01:50:47 Bike: early PCLs emitted assemblyish directly where supported. The fork in SBCL took all that out and replaced them with calls to CL:COMPILE on trivial code instead. 01:50:56 LLVM has integers implemented with any number of bits you want. 01:51:33 as long as you know how many bits you want ahead of time. 01:51:38 I'm really excited about mixing Common Lisp and a sort of inline LLVM-IR - that will kick ass. 01:51:43 pkhuong: ah, makes sense. i looked at early pcl and it mentioned assembly, but i haven't seen any of that in sbcl. 01:52:21 pkhuong: Right - and you have to deal with overflow, etc. That's why I haven't tried anything with that yet. 01:55:23 drmeister: it is a cool project. maybe it is the first CL implementation backended by LLVM. how about its progress ? 01:56:10 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 01:57:27 It's coming along. I've gotten CLOS/generic functions and I just implemented CONDITIONs. I'm slowly working towards getting SLIME to work. 01:58:10 any github ? 02:00:39 -!- seangrove [~user@208.80.69.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:00:57 kennyd [~kennyd@93-141-22-158.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 02:01:05 *zRecursive* just compiling xmonad using llvm, it works. 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No github yet - still working on it. 02:13:56 welcome 02:26:04 breakds [~breakds@cpe-74-79-147-26.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 02:27:44 Dalek_Baldwin [~Adium@71-84-34-33.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #lisp 02:30:45 -!- ebobby [~fms@199.21.86.106] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:31:46 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 02:33:11 -!- honkfestival [~honkfesti@198-84-183-94.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: honkfestival] 02:33:25 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-141-22-158.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34:18 -!- pierpa`` [~user@host126-61-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:34:29 -!- knob [~knob@64.237.235.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:35:31 kennyd [~kennyd@93-141-22-158.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 02:36:16 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:36:40 knob3212 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When I try to upgrade Kdenlive I get: kdenlive: 15:08:31 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@109.120.43.7] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:32 Depends: libmlt5 but it is not going to be installed 15:08:32 Depends: kdenlive-data (=0.9.6-0ubuntu0~sunab~precise1) but 0.8.2.1-1ubuntu1 is to be installed. What is the solution to this problem? 15:09:11 hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@46.233.243.58] has joined #lisp 15:09:29 walter [~walter@c-24-218-217-69.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:09:36 drl: wrong channel 15:10:07 Sure is! Sorry. 15:11:55 I would rather be programming with Lisp right now. 15:12:08 Make it so 15:12:30 Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has joined #lisp 15:13:16 knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 15:13:25 huangjs [~huangjs@114.84.155.252] has joined #lisp 15:13:28 ...number one 15:13:53 atamagawarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has joined #lisp 15:13:55 Kenjin [~kenjin@bl10-122-105.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 15:13:58 -!- knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:15:31 Xach, I plan to soon. I have a big project in the planning stage. 15:15:41 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 15:15:42 tell us more :) 15:17:45 Software to make a Hebrew-English-Indonesian Interlinear Bible. 15:18:06 -!- knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:18:23 guiambros [~guiambros@z65-50-88-217.ips.direcpath.com] has joined #lisp 15:20:05 -!- negrophobe12 [~Negrophob@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:20:36 -!- breakds [~breakds@cpe-74-79-147-26.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20:37 pacifistically54 [~pacifisti@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:21:30 p_nathan [~Adium@98.145.133.23] has joined #lisp 15:22:53 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:21 knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 15:23:43 -!- fenton [~fenton@ppp-115-87-5-206.revip4.asianet.co.th] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:25:51 talas [~talas@136.144.16.62.customer.cdi.no] has joined #lisp 15:25:51 -!- talas [~talas@136.144.16.62.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Changing host] 15:25:51 talas [~talas@unaffiliated/talas] has joined #lisp 15:26:30 -!- pacifistically54 [~pacifisti@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:27:46 pacifistically54 [~pacifisti@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:30:09 jaaso [~user@109.175.27.246] has joined #lisp 15:30:21 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30:24 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 15:31:12 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #lisp 15:35:24 slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-108-80-229-231.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 15:36:33 is there an up-to-date-ish slime git mirror these days? 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16:17:49 How a type specified is needed to create a sequence of keywords? 16:18:12 (list :a :sequence :of :keywords) --> (:A :SEQUENCE :OF :KEYWORDS) ; that's all there is to it. 16:18:26 s/ied/ier/ 16:18:37 (make-sequence 'symbol 9 :initial-element :empty) 16:18:42 that is the call I'm trying to make 16:19:25 make-sequence take the type of the sequence i.e., 'list, 'simple-vector... 16:20:31 ahh I thought it was of the elements the sequence could hold 16:21:11 PuercoPop: Generally you don't worry too much about the type of the element, unless you are optimizing. 16:21:45 moore33: *nods* 16:22:39 -!- pacifistically54 [~pacifisti@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:56 -!- dash [~washort@greyface.org] has left #lisp 16:23:58 (make-sequence '(vector symbol) 9 :initial-element :empty) 16:24:19 (make-sequence '(vector keyword) 9 :initial-element :empty) ; would work too. 16:24:51 pjb: thanks So (vector keyword/symbol) returns a vector that only takes keyword/symbols? 16:24:57 Notice, you may want a list instead: (make-sequence 'list 9 :initial-element :empty) 16:25:21 termitid04 [~termitid0@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 16:25:48 PuercoPop: no, it returns a vector that can take values of any subtype of (upgraded-array-element-type symbol). 16:26:17 (upgraded-array-element-type 'symbol) is T in all the implementations I have here. 16:28:31 -!- mach [~root@27.59.97.155] has left #lisp 16:28:43 *PuercoPop* nods 16:28:53 -!- lyanchih [~lyanchih@114-34-99-241.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: lyanchih] 16:29:11 pjb yeah I'm going to take moore33 advice and just use 'simple-vector as the type specifier 16:29:28 mattrepl [~mattrepl@pool-72-83-66-59.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 16:29:39 -!- termitid04 [~termitid0@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:28 nestorian23 [~nestorian@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 16:33:19 -!- Adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:34:54 -!- Framedragger [~k@unaffiliated/framedragger] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:34:56 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu2.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 16:39:26 -!- nilsi [~nilsi@host-95-199-195-248.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:52 nilsi [~nilsi@host-95-199-195-248.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #lisp 16:43:11 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:44:38 hagish [~hagish@p578E08BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 16:47:01 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.161.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:47:48 Framedragger [~k@unaffiliated/framedragger] has joined #lisp 16:49:00 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d86901e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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The doc on handling may need expanding. 17:20:23 polymixia32 [~Polymixia@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:20:45 knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 17:21:27 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.106.22] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22:18 -!- knob3212 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:23:02 drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.106.22] has joined #lisp 17:24:37 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:24:59 -!- zacharias [~zacharias@unaffiliated/zacharias] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2-dev] 17:24:59 bananagram [~bot@c-76-30-158-226.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:26:29 -!- McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26:38 -!- dcooper8 [~dcooper8@c-98-250-10-50.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: dcooper8] 17:28:54 McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has joined #lisp 17:29:29 xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.161.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 17:29:37 -!- knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:29:59 knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 17:30:51 Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #lisp 17:32:16 lmj`: it was my fault, I didn't know that handler-bind doesn't really handle exception. 17:35:46 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36:18 pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.40.25] has joined #lisp 17:36:18 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.40.25] has quit [Changing host] 17:36:18 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #lisp 17:38:05 -!- mattrepl [~mattrepl@pool-72-83-66-59.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: mattrepl] 17:38:53 skalawag [user@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3ad2] has joined #lisp 17:40:12 hitecnologys: Yes I assume you mean a bound handler can decline to handle by doing nothing. In contrast to handler-case where an action has already taken place (stack is unwound). 17:41:31 The only difference with async handlng is that the binding is done in the main thread and transferred to workers. 17:41:37 handler bind is usually used when there are restarts 17:41:37 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.106.22] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:42 -!- Odyessus [~odyessus@chello080109062130.15.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 17:41:55 Sure, I've already figured that out. 17:42:00 or you would like to print stack trace when stack is still not unwound 17:42:10 drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.106.22] has joined #lisp 17:45:34 -!- knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:46:45 knob5312 [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 17:48:06 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:48:08 -!- rudi 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I thought that was obvious in pretty much any language with a namespace system. They are called NAMEspaces. Perhaps the problem comes from languages that confuse names with storage, like C? 20:15:31 naeg [~naeg@170-18-182-46.NbIServ.com] has joined #lisp 20:15:56 macrobat [~fuzzyglee@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lisp 20:16:12 vhost- [~vhost@unaffiliated/vhost-] has joined #lisp 20:16:52 -!- hiredman [~hiredman@67-135-45-49.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:17:39 -!- hiredman_ is now known as hiredman 20:17:41 Well, not "obvious" to me I guess. It just jumped out at me because I'm declaring C++ functions in the core:: namespace and binding them to Common Lisp symbols in the COMMON-LISP package. 20:17:43 -!- Bike_ is now known as Bike 20:17:52 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@95.35.60.175] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:19:53 -!- Kenjin [~kenjin@bl10-122-105.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:22 -!- polymixia32 [~Polymixia@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:21:38 polymixia32 [~Polymixia@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:21:54 -!- rpgsimmaster [~rpgsimmas@system00.packetstability.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:22:15 -!- em_ [~em@user-0cev0hr.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 20:22:27 em [~em@user-0cev0hr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 20:22:30 -!- tyrick [~tyrick@c-50-143-173-244.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:23:12 rpgsimmaster 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I want to apply a list to and but and is apply so apply doesn't work 21:51:47 -!- zophy [goldenligh@gateway/shell/devio.us/x-jvkvpicduwblkodl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:53:36 append, nconc 21:54:45 (eval `(and ,@list)) 21:55:09 PuercoPop: also, every 21:56:58 nilsi [~nilsi@host-95-199-195-248.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined #lisp 21:57:22 imu96 [~imran@91.140.176.78] has joined #lisp 21:57:38 -!- polymixia32 [~Polymixia@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:00:24 choupic15 [~choupic15@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:01:56 Bike: isn't append a way to build the list? I want to destruct it. 22:02:35 backquote is building a list 22:03:00 But I want do the same thing as ,@ 22:03:13 Pain [~stardivin@218.74.180.49] has joined #lisp 22:03:14 but outside a macro 22:03:25 (at least that is what I think) 22:03:33 `(a ,@b c) builds a list of a, the elements of b, and c. 22:03:37 PuercoPop: nothing prevents you from using `(... ,@) outside of a macro 22:03:39 it's not destructuring anything. 22:03:47 -!- Pain [~stardivin@218.74.180.49] has quit [Client Quit] 22:03:56 josemanuel [~josemanue@44.219.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lisp 22:04:23 H4ns: but I'm not quoting anything 22:04:25 -!- josemanuel [~josemanue@44.219.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:43 -!- choupic15 [~choupic15@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:04:45 you seem confused. 22:04:50 PuercoPop: and furthermore, backquote and splice are only syntactic conveniences, there is nothing special going on, you can completely write what backquote and splice do as function invocations. 22:04:54 could you describe what you are doing in more detail? 22:05:00 PuercoPop, values ? 22:05:28 five-spotted16 [~five-spot@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 22:05:41 I am. For this case I want to make an eq that takes nth parameters 22:06:07 so I thought I just have to make pairs with a list and then apply #'and 22:06:15 so I have a function like this 22:06:22 (defun transitive-pairing (xs) 22:06:22 (cond ((> 2 (length xs)) nil) 22:06:22 (t (cons `(,(car xs) ,(cadr xs)) (transitive-pairing (cdr xs)))))) 22:06:41 please don't paste code to the channel. use paste.lisp.org or another pastebin 22:06:48 *PuercoPop* nods 22:06:52 sorry 22:07:14 what's that got to do with splicing? (transitive-pairing '(4 5 6)) => ((4 5) (5 6)), no? 22:07:50 https://gist.github.com/PuercoPop/e5ae43a98e330da75170 22:07:54 yeah 22:08:00 -!- knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:08:13 -!- imu96 [~imran@91.140.176.78] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08:16 I want to splice to be able to use and directly 22:08:24 knob [~knob@adsl-64-237-235-12.prtc.net] has joined #lisp 22:08:28 then just (every (lambda (pair) (apply #'eq pair)) (transitive-pairing whatever)) 22:08:29 and I can't apply it 22:10:51 Bike: ahh I was still using the previous mapcar in addition to every, not instead, Thank you very much and thanks for the little correction of naming x pair. 22:10:58 -!- benkard [~benkard@mnch-5d857456.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:11:21 -!- m4dnificent is now known as madnificent 22:11:27 d4gg4d [uid7020@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jwtzinwsbahkvkdi] has joined #lisp 22:12:11 -!- five-spotted16 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