00:00:15 having a syntax sugar for simple lambdas with any number of parameters 00:00:50 [+ @0 @1 @2 10] would have translate to a lambda with 4 parameters, for example 00:01:03 I mean, 3 parameters. Sorry 00:01:13 Here http://paste.lisp.org/display/137468 00:02:01 Denommus: there have been a ew things like that for CL and they've never really caught on. 00:02:34 *maxm* is proud of that code, full live updating of smoothed polyline, split arbitrarely into segments with different attributes like color/thinkness/pen etc 00:02:35 Bucciarati_ [~buccia@www.inscatolati.net] has joined #lisp 00:02:51 -!- Bucciarati_ [~buccia@www.inscatolati.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:03:01 maxm: using complex number for representing points is actually a great idea 00:03:51 Bike: would you say that it makes code less readable? 00:03:54 Its not original, I was searching for 2-d algos, and one of the first one was actually in lisp, using complexes. There was that site, that had bunch of algorithms in lisp, kind of outdated (I think around 1980/1990 era), but a lot of nice goodies in there 00:04:13 -!- ejohnson [~Thunderbi@c-67-181-201-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:04:48 Denommus: i try to avoid statements like that. but: yeah pretty much. 00:04:50 IAMNOTTHETHINGTH [~seantalle@ec2-54-234-24-103.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #lisp 00:05:26 -!- IAMNOTTHETHINGTH is now known as fooooooooooooo 00:05:34 Denommus: Abbriviations that aren't widely adopted are less readable 00:06:04 Krystof [~user@81.174.155.115] has joined #lisp 00:06:44 Nisstyre [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 00:06:47 Bike_ [~Glossina@67-5-236-248.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 00:07:04 -!- fooooooooooooo is now known as zz_foooooooooooo 00:08:18 How does one test if a symbol is exported or not from a package? 00:08:44 find-symbol's second value? 00:09:19 -!- Bike [~Glossina@67-5-206-225.ptld.qwest.net] has quit 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Or RAII in Scala. DAMMIT.] 05:16:14 -!- namtsui [~user@c-76-102-34-148.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:17:03 namtsui [~user@c-76-102-34-148.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 05:18:59 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85.130.70.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:22:14 Does anyone have a reference for performing escape analysis for Common Lisp? I've got Appel's book "Modern Compiler Implementation in ML" but it doesn't go into nearly enough detail. 05:23:12 -!- Tarential [~Tarential@li472-156.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5] 05:24:46 nothing special about CL, except that dynamic-extent declarations can just be trusted by the compiler. 05:26:23 ISTR JVMs have reasonable escape analysis passes that catch a lot of common cases without requiring global analyses like kCFA. 05:27:48 I'm just trying to figure out how to do escape analysis. What is "ISTR JVMs" and "kCFA"? 05:27:59 -!- przl [~przlrkt@p5B298C7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:28:30 "I seem to recall Java virtual machines" 05:29:02 przl [~przlrkt@p5B298C7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 05:29:02 and http://matt.might.net/articles/implementation-of-kcfa-and-0cfa/, probably? 05:32:53 kimochiwarui [~user@unaffiliated/dijkstragroupie] has joined #lisp 05:33:58 Thanks, I'll read it and check the references. 05:38:49 -!- Grizzly [Grizzly@ABayonne-651-1-286-70.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:41:59 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:43:44 -!- chu [~user@unaffiliated/chu] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 05:45:35 ck`` [~ck@dslb-188-107-065-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 05:48:51 pkhuong: I found "Escape Analysis for JavaTM Theory and Practice" Bruno Blanchet ACM Transactions on Programming Languages and Systems (TOPLAS) Vol 25, pg 713-775 05:50:17 Based on your suggestion that JVMs have reasonable escape analysis passes. 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Or maybe not. 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symbols/packages. 13:05:10 mrSpec [~Spec@133.Red-83-57-241.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 13:05:10 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@133.Red-83-57-241.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:05:10 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 13:05:11 The Gray stream package uses the COMMON-LISP package which includes the symbol CLOSE 13:05:30 The Gray stream package then goes and defines (defgeneric CLOSE (stream &key abort)...) 13:05:59 And my system throws an error because it's lot allowed to redefine the built-in function CLOSE. 13:06:28 the gray stream package should shadow cl:close it it want to be able to define it as a generic function 13:06:47 that would let you have two, seperate, symbols gray:close and cl:close 13:06:51 I believe that gray streams requires the host implementation to provide close as a generic function. 13:07:01 So that code that is not aware of gray streams can close them. 13:08:02 ECL does have a CL:CLOSE and a GRAY:CLOSE symbol and they are both bound to regular FUNCTIONs. 13:08:22 lduros` [~user@pool-98-115-48-162.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 13:08:50 drmeister: then your package (which i assume :use's both :common-lisp and :gray) should do a :shadowing-import-from :gray :close 13:08:59 i think, i never get :shadow an :shadowing-import-from right the first time 13:09:01 -!- lduros [~user@fsf/member/lduros] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09:26 I don't see any shadowing-import functions in the streams.lsp file - they may be in the C source though - I'll dig around 13:09:55 drmeister: i may have misunderstood you. :shadowing-import is an argument to defpackage 13:10:15 does the (defpackage :gray) from mention the close symbol explicitly? 13:10:20 antoszka_ [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #lisp 13:10:21 s/from// 13:10:45 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:11:06 I mis-spoke I meant there are no mention of SHADOW anywhere in the streams.lsp file. 13:11:09 mgile [~mgile@74-92-220-177-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 13:11:36 erjag [~eugene@122.62-97-226.bkkb.no] has joined #lisp 13:11:44 The "GRAY" package is created within the C code so it requires a bit of deciphering. 13:11:48 -!- quasisane [~sanep@c-24-218-184-186.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11:55 quasisane [~sanep@c-24-218-184-186.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 13:12:14 TristamWrk [~tristamwr@bodhilinux/team/Tristam] has joined #lisp 13:12:23 iLogical_ [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 13:12:44 My trains about to drop me off. I'll be back in a few minutes. 13:13:28 -!- erjag [~eugene@122.62-97-226.bkkb.no] has quit [Client Quit] 13:13:45 statl [~statl@dslb-094-218-229-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 13:14:24 Jubb [~Jubb@pool-108-28-62-61.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 13:14:24 Vutral_ [ss@vutral.net] has joined #lisp 13:14:30 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:15:14 spion [~spion@77.28.2.20] has joined #lisp 13:15:16 -!- spion [~spion@77.28.2.20] has quit [Changing host] 13:15:16 spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 13:16:11 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:16:36 Didn't need to disconnect. (PACKAGE-SHADOWING-SYMBOLS :GRAY) --> (GRAY:STREAM-ELEMENT-TYPE GRAY:OPEN-STREAM-P GRAY:OUTPUT-STREAM-P GRAY:INPUT-STREAM-P GRAY:STREAMP GRAY:CLOSE) 13:16:48 foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has joined #lisp 13:16:49 luis` [~luis@nhop.r42.eu] has joined #lisp 13:16:57 djinni`_ [~djinni@li125-242.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 13:17:10 So I just need to specify those shadowing symbols when I create my GRAY package. 13:17:19 natechan [~natechan@50-192-61-45-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 13:17:20 -!- lduros` [~user@pool-98-115-48-162.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:40 dtw- [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has joined #lisp 13:17:46 syrinx_ [~quassel@ip68-1-175-223.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #lisp 13:17:46 -!- syrinx_ [~quassel@ip68-1-175-223.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:17:46 syrinx_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/syrinx-/x-4255893] has joined #lisp 13:17:51 drmeister: how is hacking going? 13:18:39 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 13:19:08 zorkmoid: It seems to go slower and slower the further I go. I got ECL CLOS/MOP working as well as the condition system. I'm currently working on GRAY streams. 13:19:20 drmeister: cool! 13:19:31 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Disconnected by services] 13:19:33 -!- syrinx [~quassel@unaffiliated/syrinx-/x-4255893] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:34 syrinx [~quassel@ip68-1-175-223.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #lisp 13:19:34 -!- dtw [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:34 -!- dtw- is now known as 36DAARYR5 13:19:34 dtw- [~dtw@dsl-roibrasgw1-54fb86-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #lisp 13:19:34 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:19:34 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 271 seconds] 13:19:34 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Ping timeout: 243 seconds] 13:19:34 -!- varjagg [~eugene@122.62-97-226.bkkb.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 243 seconds] 13:19:35 -!- syrinx [~quassel@ip68-1-175-223.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:19:35 syrinx [~quassel@unaffiliated/syrinx-/x-4255893] has joined #lisp 13:19:35 -!- dtw- [~dtw@dsl-roibrasgw1-54fb86-110.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Changing host] 13:19:35 dtw- [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has joined #lisp 13:19:42 that is quite far... 13:20:03 -!- Trystam is now known as Tristam 13:20:03 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 13:20:31 -!- flip214 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:20:39 I need to add real garbage collection, escape analysis and get SLIME working. 13:20:56 chu [~user@CPE-121-223-190-253.lns2.civ.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 13:20:59 flip214 [~marek@86.59.100.100] has joined #lisp 13:21:01 nilsi_ [~nilsi@c-5eeaaa76-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined #lisp 13:22:17 nice 13:22:30 i've been doing unsexy stuff ... 13:22:35 Hydan` [~hydan@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lisp 13:22:53 strz [~strobegen@64.120.223.138] has joined #lisp 13:23:19 runningsm [~runningsk@li77-167.members.linode.com] has joined #lisp 13:23:50 zorkmoid: We should talk more - I need to run at the moment though. Ping me if you have some time later. 13:24:04 sure, will do! (if i remeber :-) 13:24:05 -!- Myk267 [~myk@unaffiliated/myk267] has quit [Quit: Ack! Hans, run! It's the lhurgoyf!] 13:24:36 lduros [~user@pool-98-115-48-162.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 13:24:57 Ralt_ [Ralt@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:6c69] has joined #lisp 13:25:38 Mandus_ [~aasmundo@128.39.36.51] has joined #lisp 13:25:42 guyal_ [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 13:25:44 drewc- [~drewc@drewc.org] has joined #lisp 13:25:53 -!- guyal_ [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:26:14 drmeister: cl:close really needs to know about gray streams, otherwise all sorts of breakage will occur in unrelated code. To implement Gray streams, you need to do implementation-dependent hackery 13:26:27 arkx_ [~aku@eagleflow.fi] has joined #lisp 13:26:28 nitro_idiot_ [~nitro_idi@quickdocs.org] has joined #lisp 13:26:32 guyal [~michaelmu@108-235-117-64.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 13:26:36 Praise- [~Fat@88-149-163-154.v4.ngi.it] has joined #lisp 13:26:57 froggey_ [~froggey@cpc1-rdng22-2-0-cust861.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 13:27:23 rtoym_ [~chatzilla@24.130.4.105] has joined #lisp 13:27:28 przl [~przlrkt@62.217.45.197] has joined #lisp 13:27:28 _death [void@al.islaam.com.ar] has joined #lisp 13:27:40 killian1 [~killian@ip70-179-169-110.fv.ks.cox.net] has joined #lisp 13:28:19 fds_ [~fds@tickle.compsoc.man.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 13:29:01 -!- [SLB] [~slabua@unaffiliated/slabua] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:29:13 victor_lowther [~victorlow@143.166.116.80] has joined #lisp 13:29:30 -!- djinni` [~djinni@li125-242.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:29:30 -!- `fogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:29:30 -!- luis [~luis@nhop.r42.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 13:29:31 -!- dtw- [~dtw@pdpc/supporter/active/dtw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:31 -!- syrinx [~quassel@unaffiliated/syrinx-/x-4255893] has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 13:29:31 joachifm_ [~joachifm@ulrik.uio.no] has joined #lisp 13:29:35 mefogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has joined #lisp 13:29:44 rudi: Thank you - I'll take that to heart, is there more than just CLOSE that needs to know about gray streams? 13:30:16 brendyyn [brendyn@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fedf:65b4] has joined #lisp 13:30:26 tycho [~tychoish@foucault.cyborginstitute.net] has joined #lisp 13:30:34 banjara1 [~Adium@172-7-148-12.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 13:30:39 There is a fair amount of gray stream related code in the ECL C source - I'll have to look at it carefully to figure out what they are doing and replicate it. 13:30:44 -!- ggherdov [uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qphhopyhhfmvymrv] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- deliciousrobots [~delicious@stevegoss.xen.prgmr.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@72.53.112.90] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- nitro_idiot [~nitro_idi@quickdocs.org] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- fds [~fds@tickle.compsoc.man.ac.uk] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- Praise [~Fat@unaffiliated/praise] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- brendyn [~brendyn@li568-31.members.linode.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- strobegen [~strobegen@64.120.223.138] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- froggey [~froggey@unaffiliated/froggey] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- joachifm [~joachifm@ulrik.uio.no] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- zz_runningskull [~runningsk@li77-167.members.linode.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- Mandus [~aasmundo@128.39.36.51] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:44 -!- arkx [~aku@eagleflow.fi] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- rfgpfeiffer [~bob@blubberquark.de] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- ezakimak [~nick@72.250.219.55] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- yrk [~user@pdpc/supporter/student/yrk] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- maxm [~user@unaffiliated/maxm] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- dmiles [~dmiles@c-71-237-234-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- quackv4 [~quack@vps-1058467-4367.manage.myhosting.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- mile-ton47 [~mile-ton4@c-67-182-147-102.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- p_nathan [~vlion@98.145.133.23] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- NimeshNeema [uid2689@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iktllgmlorjnkjol] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- SHODAN [~shozan@fsf/member/shodan] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- DrCode [~DrCode@gateway/tor-sasl/drcode] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- sawjig [~sawjig@gateway/tor-sasl/sawjig] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- McMAGIC--Copy [~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:30:45 -!- brendyyn is now known as brendyn 13:30:49 -!- strz is now known as strobegen 13:30:55 Xach_ [~xach@cpe-67-255-229-229.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 13:31:17 deliciousrobots [~delicious@stevegoss.xen.prgmr.com] has joined #lisp 13:31:25 drmeister: force-output, finish-output and clear-output come to mind 13:31:42 [SLB] [~slabua@87.19.172.248] has joined #lisp 13:31:43 -!- TristamWrk [~tristamwr@bodhilinux/team/Tristam] has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 13:31:52 hkBst [~marijn@80.120.175.18] has joined #lisp 13:32:00 Ok, obviously it's more than just hosting streams.lsp 13:32:01 stassats [~stassats@pppoe.178-66-92-139.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru] has joined #lisp 13:32:13 -!- mefogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:32:14 I better run - I'll be back later to ask more questions about gray streams. 13:32:16 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.105.207] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32:23 TristamWrk [~tristamwr@gray-32.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #lisp 13:32:27 -!- kanru [~kanru@118-163-10-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 13:32:27 `fogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has joined #lisp 13:32:59 mefogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has joined #lisp 13:34:03 minion: memo for drmeister: the CL stream functions need to call their Gray equivalent - e.g., force-output needs to call stream-force-output if handed a Gray stream 13:34:03 Remembered. I'll tell drmeister when he/she/it next speaks. 13:34:28 -!- banjara [~Adium@unaffiliated/banjara] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 13:34:28 -!- mal___ [mal@ks24170.kimsufi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34:28 -!- Ralt [Ralt@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:6c69] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34:28 -!- drewc_ [~drewc@drewc.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 261 seconds] 13:34:28 -!- `fogus [~fogus@freedom.d-a-s.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 13:34:29 -!- tychoish [~tychoish@foucault.cyborginstitute.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 13:34:29 -!- Xach [~xach@pdpc/supporter/professional/xach] has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 13:34:29 -!- Hydan [~hydan@ip-89-103-110-5.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 13:34:29 -!- adeht [void@al.islaam.com.ar] has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 13:34:29 -!- rtoym [~chatzilla@24.130.4.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34:29 -!- expez [~expez@expez.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34:29 lemo1nem [~swoog@72.53.112.90] has joined #lisp 13:34:30 -!- killian [~killian@ip70-179-169-110.fv.ks.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 259 seconds] 13:34:32 joast [~rick@76.178.135.192] has joined #lisp 13:34:32 -!- tycho is now known as tychoish 13:34:32 -!- Ralt_ is now known as Ralt 13:34:37 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@95.56.73.25] has joined #lisp 13:35:36 paddymahoney [~patrick@24.137.221.230] has joined #lisp 13:35:37 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 13:36:37 hugoduncan [~user@76.65.143.57] has joined #lisp