00:01:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 00:06:41 -!- paul0 [~user@200.146.126.168.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:10:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 00:14:12 otwieracz [~gonet9@v6.gen2.org] has joined #lisp 00:16:21 homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 00:17:23 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:20:47 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 00:22:21 gkeith_lt [~gkeith@c-98-216-97-19.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 00:22:27 VieiraN [~VieiraN@187.57.249.176] has joined #lisp 00:22:45 -!- Bacteria [~Bacteria@115-64-180-132.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Bacteria] 00:23:46 err I am moving a quicklisp to another server and I copied what I had locally so now I am getting While executing: QUICKLISP-CLIENT::FIND-SYSTEM-IN-INDEX, when I try to load a local package as he is looking for the wrong path for the asd files (e.g. not in local-projects) any ideas how to fix this ? 00:24:18 cant figure how where he gets this new path from ? 00:25:04 could you paste whole error? 00:25:31 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 00:25:52 also, try ql:register-local-projects 00:27:05 (ql:quickload "jediblog") 00:27:05 > Error: File #P"/Users/gurugeek/quicklisp/jediblog/jediblog.asd" does not exist. 00:27:05 > While executing: QUICKLISP-CLIENT::FIND-SYSTEM-IN-INDEX, in process listener(1 00:27:13 tried ql:register 00:27:30 the asd is in gurugeek/quicklisp/local-projects/jediblog 00:27:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:28:35 is weird it worked a minute ago then I restarted CCL and got this:) 00:29:10 register local returned NIL I guess that is okay ? 00:29:11 :) 00:29:35 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 00:31:36 homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 00:31:47 AlbireoX [~AlbireoX@99-136-83-34.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 00:32:20 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 00:33:36 hmm... not sure 00:34:00 I personally don't really use local-projects part of QL (I have ASDF2 config predating it) 00:34:40 I undersand no worries 00:34:57 I localized the problem in setup.lisp so I should have not copied it probably :) 00:35:21 is ql:register-local-projects supposed to return nil ? 00:36:28 glancing at the source, it cann't normally return anything else, so yes. 00:36:43 thanks bike 00:36:49 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:38:21 solved :) 00:38:40 it was .ccl-init.lisp 00:38:45 it had the init twice 00:38:51 so that probably broke it :) 00:39:00 homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 00:39:02 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 00:44:12 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 00:45:05 kenanb [~user@unaffiliated/kenanb] has joined #lisp 00:45:32 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:46:05 homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 00:47:40 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 00:50:06 -!- gkeith_lt [~gkeith@c-98-216-97-19.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:53:46 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:54:27 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 00:54:37 -!- deadghost [~deadghost@71-84-68-72.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:56:11 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 01:00:07 deadghost [~deadghost@71-84-68-72.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com] has joined #lisp 01:01:33 homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 01:01:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:02:13 moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-12-129.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 01:04:53 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 01:07:13 -!- balle [~balle@xdsl-188-155-209-1.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:11:48 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:13:32 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 01:13:53 Yuuhi`` [benni@p54839EC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 01:14:22 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 01:15:27 -!- Yuuhi` [benni@p5483B44D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:15:45 pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has joined #lisp 01:19:36 -!- moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-12-129.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:21:05 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 01:21:20 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:21:45 user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 01:22:53 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 01:23:21 -!- qptain_Nemo [~qN@81-235-52-30-no79.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:24:00 -!- LiamH [~healy@pool-108-7-208-203.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:24:10 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 01:26:24 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29:57 qptain_Nemo [~qN@81-235-52-30-no79.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #lisp 01:30:45 -!- kenanb [~user@unaffiliated/kenanb] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:48 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:33:36 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:33:38 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 01:34:07 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 01:40:01 PCChris [~PCChris@dhcp-199-74-100-143.res-hall.northwestern.edu] has joined #lisp 01:40:28 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:41:18 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:42:19 -!- PCChris [~PCChris@dhcp-199-74-100-143.res-hall.northwestern.edu] has left #lisp 01:42:23 PCChris [~PCChris@dhcp-199-74-100-143.res-hall.northwestern.edu] has joined #lisp 01:43:40 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 01:47:42 is there a way to pass a command line command with ccl to load not via (load "file") but (ql:quickload "package") ? :) 01:50:17 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:50:58 ccl -e '(ql:quickload :foo)' 01:53:30 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 01:53:56 LiamH [~healy@70-88-245-53-ma-nh-me-ne.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lisp 01:55:19 *d3vnu11* highfives fe[nl]ix 01:55:37 thanks a lot :) 01:59:08 pirateking9_9 [~piratekin@unaffiliated/pirateking---/x-2885143] has joined #lisp 02:00:10 -!- urandom__ [~user@p54B0E027.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:00:17 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02:34 -!- pirateking-_- [~piratekin@unaffiliated/pirateking---/x-2885143] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:02:35 -!- pirateking9_9 is now known as pirateking-_- 02:03:27 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 02:08:27 -!- ANDRES1 [~daniel@201.209.38.229] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:10:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:13:36 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 02:14:42 daniel1 [~daniel@201.209.38.229] has joined #lisp 02:17:07 -!- daniel1 is now known as ANDRES1 02:20:23 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:23:26 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 02:26:46 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:53 -!- cornihilio [~user@nfmv001165100.uqw.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:06 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:32:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 02:38:44 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:41:02 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 02:47:34 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:50:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 02:53:24 -!- kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:55:04 -!- doomlord [~ceti331@host81-157-102-115.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:55:24 -!- PCChris [~PCChris@dhcp-199-74-100-143.res-hall.northwestern.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:56:38 kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #lisp 02:57:42 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:59:33 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 03:01:44 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:57 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 03:01:59 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 03:03:05 -!- benny [~user@i577A1849.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:06:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:09:13 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 03:12:42 -!- LiamH [~healy@70-88-245-53-ma-nh-me-ne.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:14:31 jleija [~jleija@50.8.41.50] has joined #lisp 03:15:42 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:18:36 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 03:18:41 -!- zolk3ri [~zolk3ri@unaffiliated/zolk3ri] has quit [] 03:24:10 moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 03:24:36 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:24:48 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-101-227.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #lisp 03:27:15 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 03:29:32 PCChris [~PCChris@dhcp-199-74-100-143.res-hall.northwestern.edu] has joined #lisp 03:33:42 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:35:29 -!- moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:35:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 03:42:06 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:43:30 benny [~user@87.122.129.111] has joined #lisp 03:44:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 03:51:22 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:53:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 03:54:17 Ologn [~ologn@cpe-69-206-225-143.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 03:56:32 -!- jleija [~jleija@50.8.41.50] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:00:28 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:03:31 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 04:05:50 moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 04:06:14 cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #lisp 04:10:32 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:12:59 -!- sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:13:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 04:13:41 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:15:01 sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 04:16:00 does GCL compile or interpret ANSI CL? 04:16:47 Quadrescence: both. 04:17:10 Does GCL still exist? 04:17:36 I'm talking to someone and their lisp code must work under gcl, I suppose. 04:18:00 -!- ANDRES1 [~daniel@201.209.38.229] has left #lisp 04:18:28 -!- moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:20:13 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:23:29 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 04:30:16 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:31:16 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-101-227.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:33:33 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 04:33:40 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-74-40.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:37:09 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-101-227.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #lisp 04:38:10 -!- d3vnu11 [~devnull@174-30.60-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:39:21 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.116] has joined #lisp 04:40:19 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:42:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 04:46:30 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 04:48:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:49:09 hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@94.137.5.255] has joined #lisp 04:50:46 -!- qptain_Nemo [~qN@81-235-52-30-no79.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:51:04 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 04:52:03 mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has joined #lisp 04:52:45 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:55:40 -!- Forty-3 [~seana11@pool-71-191-38-245.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:57:50 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:57:55 -!- ISF [~ivan@187.64.220.85] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:00:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 05:03:03 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.116] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07:00 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:09:35 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 05:16:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:16:26 moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 05:18:16 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 05:18:46 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #lisp 05:21:56 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-74-40.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 05:24:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:26:57 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 05:33:46 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:36:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 05:43:16 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:44:12 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:44:53 i want to subtract a &body from a &whole to get the lambda args, anyone can remind me the built-in function to do that? 05:45:56 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 05:46:27 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:51:28 hmm if a macro has both &whole whole and later &body body, isn't body still the body? 05:52:03 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@94.137.5.255] has quit [Quit: hitecnologys] 05:52:06 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:52:38 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #lisp 05:52:38 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:53:40 phadthai: yes 05:54:01 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.9] has joined #lisp 05:54:32 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 05:55:23 -!- kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:55:55 huangjs: ldiff? 05:56:10 Bike: bang! that's it 05:56:12 Bike: thanks 05:58:42 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #lisp 05:58:42 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:59:39 Hexstream [~hexstream@modemcable209.138-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #lisp 06:00:59 Massive update to my categorised programming (mostly Common Lisp) tweets collection, btw: http://www.hexstreamsoft.com/tweets/ Now I'm le tired... 06:01:01 -!- Hexstream [~hexstream@modemcable209.138-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #lisp 06:01:13 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:02:49 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 06:03:20 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 06:07:09 -!- vsync- is now known as vsync 06:09:24 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:12:35 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 06:19:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:21:23 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 06:23:17 paul0 [~user@200.146.126.168.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #lisp 06:25:19 -!- PCChris [~PCChris@dhcp-199-74-100-143.res-hall.northwestern.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:32 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:30:03 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 06:33:15 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.116] has joined #lisp 06:33:52 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-195-174.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 06:36:33 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:36:34 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:37:31 -!- AlbireoX [~AlbireoX@99-136-83-34.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38:26 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 06:39:32 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 06:44:12 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #lisp 06:46:18 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:49:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 06:51:28 -!- Jubb [~ghost@pool-108-28-0-134.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:52:32 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #lisp 06:54:42 ivan-kanis [~user@lns-c10k-ft-02-t2-89-83-137-164.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #lisp 06:56:08 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:56:33 user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 06:57:43 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 06:58:09 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:59:11 -!- Bike [~Glossina@63-229-128-245.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:04:00 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:05:07 -!- mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 07:07:10 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 07:07:50 -!- jack_rabbit [~kyle@c-98-212-128-247.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:12:36 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:14:00 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:14:27 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 07:16:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 07:20:08 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.116] has quit [Quit: (save-lisp-and-die)] 07:21:52 mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has joined #lisp 07:23:17 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:24:51 NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has joined #lisp 07:26:19 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 07:30:55 -!- __class__ [~class@99-105-56-217.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:32 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.116] has joined #lisp 07:32:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:34:13 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 07:34:27 justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 07:34:56 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 07:37:10 lolprog [~let@94-225-44-126.access.telenet.be] has joined #lisp 07:39:22 __class__ [~class@99-105-56-217.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 07:41:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:42:04 jjkola [~jjkola@212-226-65-13-nat.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #lisp 07:43:07 -!- NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:44:06 rswarbrick [~rswarbric@cpc1-cove3-0-0-cust941.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 07:44:14 -!- VieiraN [~VieiraN@187.57.249.176] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:44:16 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 07:44:27 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:48:21 -!- rswarbrick [~rswarbric@cpc1-cove3-0-0-cust941.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:50:26 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:53:00 uselpa [~uselpa@83.99.17.60] has joined #lisp 07:53:37 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 07:57:18 NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has joined #lisp 07:57:45 stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-234-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 07:59:05 -!- justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:44 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:03:19 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 08:04:54 is there a way to eval with a specific dynamic environment? 08:05:31 -!- ioa [~xmike@dynamic2-248-005.usc.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:06:47 -!- uselpa [~uselpa@83.99.17.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:11:55 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 08:14:11 MoALTz__ [~no@host-92-8-231-221.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 08:16:05 punee [~punee@213-245-106-105.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #lisp 08:16:16 _d3f [~d3f@46.183.216.234] has joined #lisp 08:17:30 -!- MoALTz_ [~no@host-92-2-116-150.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:18:25 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:18:34 bitonic [~user@027cae25.bb.sky.com] has joined #lisp 08:21:02 ltbarcly1: if to add to the dynamic environment and eval, look at progv, otherwise, I don't think you can (portably) eval in a "virgin" environment 08:21:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 08:21:56 weird 08:21:59 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has joined #lisp 08:22:29 morning 08:27:18 -!- lcc [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:28:11 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:31:19 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 08:32:04 of course it would also be possible to use a custom eval (for lisp or a custom language), or perform wanted sanity checking and transformations on the code before passing it to eval 08:32:41 i.e. making sure symbols are in the appropriate package 08:35:47 which package might only include symbols that you allow, instead of :use :cl 08:35:53 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:37:31 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:39:59 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 08:42:06 -!- jjkola [~jjkola@212-226-65-13-nat.elisa-mobile.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:43:24 gko [~user@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 08:43:57 MoALTz_ [~no@host-92-8-157-4.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 08:45:04 justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 08:46:40 chimay [~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay] has joined #lisp 08:46:44 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:47:24 -!- MoALTz__ [~no@host-92-8-231-221.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:49:13 -!- justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:49:38 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 08:54:14 MoALTz__ [~no@host-92-2-121-66.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 08:54:50 balle [~balle@xdsl-188-155-209-1.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 08:55:26 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:55:31 antonv [5d7d31f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.49.249] has joined #lisp 08:57:19 -!- MoALTz_ [~no@host-92-8-157-4.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:58:08 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 09:03:46 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:06:56 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 09:07:42 zodiac1111 [~zodiac111@124.90.128.224] has joined #lisp 09:07:46 Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 09:09:05 -!- Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:10:34 Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 09:13:18 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:15:20 *yaaaawn* sunday lovely sunday *sing* 09:16:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 09:22:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23:44 pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-27-163.2073801345.shumen.cablebg.net] has joined #lisp 09:24:40 -!- Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 09:25:19 Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 09:25:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 09:27:40 m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.204.114] has joined #lisp 09:28:26 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.22.68] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:28:47 schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-028-015.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 09:32:01 manni [~user@dslb-088-066-005-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 09:32:27 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:35:20 -!- manni [~user@dslb-088-066-005-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35:34 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 09:41:40 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:43:44 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 09:44:31 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 09:49:54 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-188-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 09:50:44 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:53:29 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 09:55:50 jjkola [~jjkola@212-226-72-196-nat.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #lisp 09:56:44 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-028-015.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:00:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:01:59 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:02:59 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #lisp 10:03:00 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:05:42 eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-217-100-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has joined #lisp 10:07:03 justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 10:07:52 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:08:39 c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 10:10:43 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:12:06 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-101-227.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:17:17 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #lisp 10:19:33 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:23:43 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:23:54 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-27-163.2073801345.shumen.cablebg.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:26:35 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:28:10 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:28:48 eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 10:29:58 foeniks [~fevon@dslb-178-002-088-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 10:31:40 -!- Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-61-220.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:35:19 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:37:10 -!- MoALTz__ [~no@host-92-2-121-66.as43234.net] has quit [Quit: brb] 10:37:41 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:38:21 MoALTz [~no@92.2.121.66] has joined #lisp 10:39:11 -!- arrsim` [~user@2001:44b8:415c:cc01:6ef0:49ff:fe5e:dedb] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43:36 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:45:27 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-24-12.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46:24 i want make-xxx from defstruct to accept additional keyword args but ignore their values, i'm using :constructor make-xxx (&key ... &allow-other-keys), is there a better way that I don't need to copy all the slot names in &key? 10:46:26 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:47:45 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-24-12.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 10:48:32 gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #lisp 10:51:40 -!- c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:52:34 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:55:42 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 10:59:47 cornihilio [~user@nfmv001165100.uqw.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 11:00:31 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:00 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:02:35 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:04:24 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 11:04:54 tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has joined #lisp 11:10:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:12:52 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:13:18 mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has joined #lisp 11:13:54 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-84-44-209-251.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:14:18 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 11:17:29 kmels [~kmels@HSI-KBW-078-043-223-122.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 11:18:48 -!- bitonic [~user@027cae25.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:19:20 pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has joined #lisp 11:20:17 -!- cornihilio [~user@nfmv001165100.uqw.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:26 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:22:07 -!- NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:22:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 11:23:58 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@69.84.244.131] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 11:29:36 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:30:28 cnl [~pony@95.106.96.62] has joined #lisp 11:31:17 -!- mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:31:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 11:31:48 mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has joined #lisp 11:35:44 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 11:38:36 -!- moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:38:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:39:04 moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 11:41:01 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 11:47:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:49:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 11:50:55 homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 11:51:27 getoffmalawn [~getoffmal@CPE-124-191-133-14.wzyy1.woo.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 11:56:01 c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 11:56:44 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:59:19 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 11:59:24 -!- kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:01:14 pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has joined #lisp 12:05:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:08:01 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 12:09:07 add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 12:13:47 -!- pirateking-_- [~piratekin@unaffiliated/pirateking---/x-2885143] has quit [Quit: pirateking-_-] 12:13:54 newcup [newcup@peruna.fi] has joined #lisp 12:14:06 pirateking-_- [~piratekin@unaffiliated/pirateking---/x-2885143] has joined #lisp 12:14:16 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:15:16 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-195-174.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:17:16 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 12:24:06 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:24:49 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 12:25:11 -!- chimay [~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 12:25:48 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:26:26 chimay [~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay] has joined #lisp 12:27:01 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:29:40 -!- SsvRrwQ [~user@24.68.50.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:32:31 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:35:44 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 12:37:54 Fullmoon [~Fullmoon@h081217030118.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #lisp 12:38:06 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #lisp 12:39:47 -!- foeniks [~fevon@dslb-178-002-088-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:42:22 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:42:49 -!- justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:42:56 -!- eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-217-100-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has quit [] 12:45:07 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 12:46:07 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-188-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:46:56 eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-217-100-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has joined #lisp 12:48:06 stlifey [~stlifey@116.26.23.137] has joined #lisp 12:48:33 iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has joined #lisp 12:48:55 -!- stlifey [~stlifey@116.26.23.137] has quit [Client Quit] 12:50:09 -!- mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:51:00 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:51:25 ehu [~ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 12:52:40 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 12:53:53 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 12:54:16 justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 12:54:20 mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.133] has joined #lisp 12:55:43 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 12:56:51 mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has joined #lisp 12:58:53 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 13:01:09 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:02:55 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 13:03:21 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 13:04:28 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-165-0.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 13:04:31 homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 13:09:58 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:11:54 xan_ [~xan@18.111.91.83] has joined #lisp 13:13:19 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 13:15:44 -!- justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:15:47 -!- eni [~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:16:41 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 13:18:19 EarlGray^ [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has joined #lisp 13:18:23 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:57 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 13:19:49 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:21:34 -!- EarlGray [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:21:40 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21:57 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 13:22:48 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 13:25:15 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:26:55 answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has joined #lisp 13:27:12 mrSpec [~Spec@net-93-159-145-154.connected.pl] has joined #lisp 13:27:13 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@net-93-159-145-154.connected.pl] has quit [Changing host] 13:27:13 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 13:28:47 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:31:36 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 13:37:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:41:09 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 13:44:56 schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-064-180-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 13:45:26 zolk3ri [~zolk3ri@unaffiliated/zolk3ri] has joined #lisp 13:48:03 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:50:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 13:50:50 -!- MoALTz [~no@92.2.121.66] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 13:51:39 MoALTz [~no@host-92-2-121-66.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 13:54:14 doomlord [~ceti331@host81-157-102-115.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 13:57:09 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:57:20 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:55 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 13:59:43 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 14:01:21 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 14:01:25 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:43 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 14:05:52 Patzy [~something@bro29-1-82-245-180-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 14:06:22 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:09:14 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 14:10:13 -!- MoALTz [~no@host-92-2-121-66.as43234.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 14:10:38 Hexstream [~hexstream@74.58.138.209] has joined #lisp 14:10:57 Massive update to my categorised programming (mostly Common Lisp) tweets collection, btw: http://www.hexstreamsoft.com/tweets/ I submitted it to reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/112t6v/hexstreamsoft_categorised_programming_mostly/ (I don't know what's up with the downvotes...) 14:11:42 -!- peterhil` [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Must not waste too much time here...] 14:11:54 - 14:15:16 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:16:29 nikodemus` [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has joined #lisp 14:16:51 MoALTz [~no@host-92-2-121-66.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 14:17:13 urandom__ [~user@p548A2C50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 14:18:00 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 14:19:38 -!- MoALTz [~no@host-92-2-121-66.as43234.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:20:17 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 14:21:17 peterhil` [~peterhil@91-157-48-51.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #lisp 14:22:22 homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-152-14.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 14:22:46 -!- agumonke1 [~agu@206.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:23:44 ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has joined #lisp 14:24:01 -!- nikodemus` [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:24:12 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:24:12 bitonic [~user@027cae25.bb.sky.com] has joined #lisp 14:24:25 fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has joined #lisp 14:24:42 MoALTz [~no@host-92-8-229-250.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 14:24:44 hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@94.137.5.255] has joined #lisp 14:25:18 Greetings! 14:25:27 hitecnologys: Hello. 14:26:28 If I put code w/o backquote to macro so I should wrap it with (eval-when (:execute :load-toplevel) ), sure? 14:27:23 Sounds confused. Backquote, macros and eval-when are all orthogonal, though sometimes used in combinations. 14:27:51 Maybe you should paste some code to paste.lisp.org 14:28:40 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 14:28:55 Hexstream: here it is http://paste.lisp.org/display/132418 14:30:06 hitecnologys: Oh, you don't need eval-when here. 14:31:59 Well, you shouldn't actually (push name *commands*) during macroexpansion. 14:33:56 Hexstream: Why? I think it better solution here than `(progn (push ) (defun )). 14:34:13 hitecnologys: Maybe this? http://paste.lisp.org/display/132418#1 14:34:35 hitecnologys: Not typically. 14:35:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:35:34 If you really need the information at compile-time, then use (eval-when (:compile-toplevel :load-toplevel :execute)...) *in the expansion*. 14:35:53 Hexstream: progn looks a bit ugly here IMO. 14:36:35 hitecnologys: Nonsense. It's the way to effectively "expand into multiple expressions". 14:36:42 -!- paul0 [~user@200.146.126.168.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:36:53 agumonkey [~agu@206.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 14:37:06 PROGN is one of a few operators that "propagates top-level" for compilation purposes. 14:37:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 14:37:55 Hexstream: hm. OK. *changed code to variant with PROGN* 14:38:45 MoALTz_ [~no@host-92-8-230-182.as43234.net] has joined #lisp 14:39:54 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41:14 -!- MoALTz [~no@host-92-8-229-250.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:42:53 add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 14:44:35 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:44:43 ykm [~ykm@124.155.255.221] has joined #lisp 14:45:06 -!- kmels [~kmels@HSI-KBW-078-043-223-122.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:46 hitecnologys: Another problem with doing the PUSH at macroexpansion-time is that macros can be expanded multiple times for various reasons, so you could end up with duplicates of the same name even for one compilation... In fact, your current version will accumulate duplicates over different runs if *commands* is a DEFVAR. 14:46:11 hash-tables are pretty convenient for this kind of use-case. 14:46:24 PUSHNEW could also work. 14:46:32 -!- cpape` [~user@cpape.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46:36 Hexstream: no, *commands* defined with DEFPARAMETER. 14:47:12 Ok. This won't work very well if you want any kind of outside extensibility, though. 14:47:41 Hexstream: I don't need hash-table 'cause I need just to store function names in order to to get documentation of all this command when I want. 14:47:49 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 14:47:52 (If you want other modules to be able to DEFCOMMAND) 14:48:49 hitecnologys: If it's just a documentation thing, you can just (SETF DOCUMENTATION) with your own documentation type symbol. 14:48:53 Hexstream: no, DEFCOMMAND is local. This is wrapper for my another program so it doesn't provide any API and contains two files. 14:49:03 Ok. 14:50:11 Hexstream: I need to know from which symbols I should request documentation. Is there's better way to do this except storing symbol names in variable? 14:50:24 -!- Daisy [~Daisy@109.58.28.248.bredband.tre.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50:50 That's a good way. 14:51:26 Hexstream: OK. Thanks. 14:53:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:55:00 some_user [~user@d83-183-51-82.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 14:56:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 14:57:02 When disassembling a lambda that simply returns some number, why is that number*2 MOV:d into the EDX register? http://paste.lisp.org/display/132419 14:57:26 KingsKnighted [~quassel@c-174-52-149-13.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 14:57:29 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.255] has joined #lisp 14:57:38 some_user: My guess would be to box it with type bits?... 14:57:48 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:27 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 15:01:06 Hexstream: So they shift it by one bit? 15:01:20 Yeah. 15:01:24 -!- ykm [~ykm@124.155.255.221] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:02:39 I don't understand how they can only need one bit. But then again, I don't know much about boxing and type bits. 15:02:44 Thanks for the help :-) 15:03:44 some_user: The rule could be: "If the LSB is 0, then it's a number. Else, we consider that more bits are type bits and dispatch on that." 15:03:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:05:26 Aah, yes, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks again! 15:05:55 Odin- [~sbkhh@erudite.anarchism.is] has joined #lisp 15:06:42 Always happy to help. 15:07:08 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 15:07:54 mjs2600_ [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 15:07:57 puchacz [~puchacz@46-65-36-47.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 15:08:41 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:48 -!- antonv [5d7d31f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.125.49.249] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:10:07 -!- Odin- [~sbkhh@erudite.anarchism.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:12:23 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:13:49 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 15:15:13 woww networkmanager it's working! 15:15:16 ops 15:15:19 (sorry) 15:16:20 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:17:33 pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has joined #lisp 15:18:51 hitecnologys_ [~hitecnolo@46.233.215.86] has joined #lisp 15:19:13 -!- tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has quit [Quit: gone] 15:20:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:20:47 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@94.137.5.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:20:48 -!- hitecnologys_ is now known as hitecnologys 15:22:18 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:22:27 -!- ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:22:33 -!- KingsKnighted [~quassel@c-174-52-149-13.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:22:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 15:25:09 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@94.27.88.140] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:26:14 kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has joined #lisp 15:27:09 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:27:31 Goodbye, guys. Have a nice day! 15:27:38 -!- hitecnologys [~hitecnolo@46.233.215.86] has quit [Quit: hitecnologys] 15:27:59 -!- Hexstream [~hexstream@74.58.138.209] has left #lisp 15:28:52 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31:31 KingsKnighted [~quassel@c-174-52-149-13.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:31:43 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 15:33:25 LiamH [~healy@pool-108-7-208-203.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 15:34:04 -!- mjs2600_ [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:16 Forty-3 [~seana11@pool-71-191-38-245.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 15:34:41 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 15:35:50 -!- zodiac1111 [~zodiac111@124.90.128.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:37:56 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:38:33 AlbireoX [~AlbireoX@99-136-83-34.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 15:38:39 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:40:36 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 15:45:03 -!- RJ3000_ [~uid1@109.231.228.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:52 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:49:26 daniel3 [~daniel@201.209.38.229] has joined #lisp 15:49:30 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 15:52:00 -!- daniel3 is now known as ANDRES1 15:55:04 sonnym [~sonny@24.59.181.37] has joined #lisp 15:56:13 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56:34 -!- DrPete [~DrPete@unaffiliated/drpete] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:59:39 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 15:59:54 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-74-40.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:01:41 xpoqz [~xpoqz@80.203.124.203] has joined #lisp 16:03:43 -!- dotemacs [u801@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndubgymfwugnjprd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:43 -!- NimeshNeema [u2689@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yembnpnvwmyctptv] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:43 -!- SeanTAllen [u4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-awkfsxluowiaaslm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:37 -!- c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:04:56 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-147-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 16:05:28 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-165-0.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:06:16 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:06:43 DrPete [~DrPete@unaffiliated/drpete] has joined #lisp 16:08:22 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #lisp 16:08:29 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 16:08:49 -!- DrPete [~DrPete@unaffiliated/drpete] has left #lisp 16:10:42 NimeshNeema [u2689@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-friutalltkfjihxi] has joined #lisp 16:11:36 -!- sonnym [~sonny@24.59.181.37] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 16:14:06 sonnym [~sonny@cpe-24-59-181-37.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 16:14:49 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:15:11 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-165-0.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 16:16:56 dotemacs [u801@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pvygbpoktfluxvmo] has joined #lisp 16:17:25 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 16:17:29 SeanTAllen [u4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lqznzsqmuoqorfup] has joined #lisp 16:20:06 Hexstream: Can I use some of your comments about documentation in my document generator tool review? 16:23:08 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:09 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:25:38 anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has joined #lisp 16:26:16 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 16:27:08 aki no hay mujeres 16:27:50 how are you? 16:28:36 Bike [~Glossina@63-229-128-245.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 16:29:24 fine you? 16:29:28 bien y thu 16:29:29 -!- anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has left #lisp 16:29:38 uselpa [~uselpa@83.99.17.60] has joined #lisp 16:32:51 bege [~bege@S0106001d7e5132b0.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #lisp 16:32:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:34:26 Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has joined #lisp 16:35:00 zeissoctopus [~zeissocto@183178133120.ctinets.com] has joined #lisp 16:35:30 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 16:36:37 ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has joined #lisp 16:37:25 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: perpetual darkness] 16:37:29 -!- ANDRES1 [~daniel@201.209.38.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:38:56 daniel3 [~daniel@201.209.38.229] has joined #lisp 16:42:20 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:43:06 -!- daniel3 [~daniel@201.209.38.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:45:38 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 16:46:20 -!- gko [~user@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 16:49:13 anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has joined #lisp 16:49:42 qlq todos bien 16:49:45 -!- anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has left #lisp 16:50:21 anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has joined #lisp 16:50:39 -!- anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:02 anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has joined #lisp 16:51:10 -!- anthony1 [~canaima@190.121.238.138] has left #lisp 16:51:47 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:53:18 paul0 [~user@200.146.126.168.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #lisp 16:54:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 16:55:52 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-234-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:56:07 Jubb [~ghost@pool-108-28-0-134.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 16:57:22 NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has joined #lisp 16:57:48 -!- sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 16:58:28 sbryant [freenode@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #lisp 17:00:32 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:03:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 17:04:30 -!- Fullmoon [~Fullmoon@h081217030118.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Quit: Fullmoon] 17:10:50 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:13:09 qptain_Nemo [~qN@81-235-52-30-no79.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #lisp 17:13:52 mrSpec [~Spec@91.226.51.186] has joined #lisp 17:13:53 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@91.226.51.186] has quit [Changing host] 17:13:53 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 17:13:55 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 17:17:29 user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 17:20:13 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:22:50 stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-234-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 17:23:01 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 17:23:05 -!- uselpa [~uselpa@83.99.17.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:25:36 -!- fantazo [~fantazo@213.129.230.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:25:57 Fullmoon [~Fullmoon@h081217030118.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #lisp 17:27:09 -!- m7w [~chatzilla@178.172.204.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:27:11 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:45 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 17:27:47 -!- chimay [~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0-dev] 17:29:14 -!- jjkola [~jjkola@212-226-72-196-nat.elisa-mobile.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:29:22 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:32:01 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 17:34:41 -!- xan_ [~xan@18.111.91.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:37:07 ioa [~xmike@dynamic2-248-005.usc.edu] has joined #lisp 17:37:16 -!- NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:37:25 NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has joined #lisp 17:37:26 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:40:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 17:41:19 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:41 add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 17:43:25 add^_^ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 17:43:25 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:30 -!- add^_^ is now known as add^_ 17:47:44 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:48:35 -!- paul0 [~user@200.146.126.168.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:49:15 nikolaidante_ [~nikolaida@42.108.248.36] has joined #lisp 17:50:02 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 17:50:20 -!- ioa [~xmike@dynamic2-248-005.usc.edu] has left #lisp 17:51:43 -!- NikolaiDante [~nikolaida@unaffiliated/knighterrant] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:52:54 lcc [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has joined #lisp 17:53:27 would this be an appropriate place to ask for help installing slimv? 17:53:40 -!- LiamH [~healy@pool-108-7-208-203.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:55:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:56:38 -!- mucker [~mucker@183.83.240.198] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:56:54 h0rm: what's the problem? 17:57:41 ask the question, bbl 17:57:56 -!- bege [~bege@S0106001d7e5132b0.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:58:26 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:58:35 add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 17:59:05 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 18:04:54 -!- ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05:26 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:07:31 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 18:08:12 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 18:08:47 ISF [~ivan@187.64.220.85] has joined #lisp 18:10:08 findiggle2 [~kirkwood@67.40.30.237] has joined #lisp 18:10:43 fantazo [~fantazo@91-119-69-13.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #lisp 18:11:23 -!- findiggle [~kirkwood@173-10-106-172-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:12:09 arrk13 [~arrakis24@dslb-178-006-103-196.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 18:12:31 flip214: i'm running debian x64, vim 7.2 compiled with python support 18:13:46 d3vnu11 [~devnull@174-30.60-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #lisp 18:14:06 on the slimv download page on vim.org, and on the one tutorial i could find, it says to unzip the script files into your vim runtime directory -- in bash, $VIM and $VIMRUNTIME are undefined 18:14:21 but vim says it looks at $HOME/.vim too 18:14:31 so i unzipped the script files into that directory 18:14:44 but slimv does not start when i use vim to open a .lisp file 18:15:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:18:18 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12771215/nested-alist-to-plist-with-alexandria 18:18:26 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 18:24:07 d3vnu11: shouldn't mapcar plist->alist work? 18:24:26 alist-plist, rather. 18:24:28 h0rm: have you setted the correct runtimepath in .vimrc ? 18:25:29 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:27:35 -!- KingsKnighted [~quassel@c-174-52-149-13.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:35 Bike: umh don't manage to get a plist out of it :X couchdb records 18:28:37 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 18:30:11 -!- sonnym [~sonny@cpe-24-59-181-37.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:30:19 d3vnu11: (mapcar #'alist-plist '(((id . 4) (key . 9) (value . 10)) ((id . 3) (key . 4) (value . 6)))) => ((ID 4 KEY 9 VALUE 10) (ID 3 KEY 4 VALUE 6)) 18:32:18 sonnym [~sonny@cpe-24-59-181-37.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:32:51 Xach: is the october update of QL going to see an update of ASDF-ENCODINGS? 18:35:08 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:36:34 xan_ [~xan@dhcp-18-111-7-121.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #lisp 18:36:45 Xach: nm. 18:36:59 retesting first. 18:37:41 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 18:38:03 -!- nikolaidante_ [~nikolaida@42.108.248.36] has quit [Quit: bye] 18:38:06 bike: is that with alexandria ? 18:39:17 xach: turns out easye was misinformed :-) will QL-october see an update of ASDF-ENCODINGS? 18:40:08 d3vnu11: that's where the alist-plist function is, yes 18:42:37 -!- ehu [~ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [] 18:43:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:44:16 ehu [ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 18:44:50 ISF_ [~ivan@201-27-198-220.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:45:14 -!- ISF_ is now known as Guest56035 18:46:22 -!- setheus [~setheus@107-203-153-73.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:47:05 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 18:49:52 steffi_s [~marioooh@cpe-74-64-56-156.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 18:50:55 -!- [SLB]` is now known as [SLB] 18:51:04 -!- Guest56035 [~ivan@201-27-198-220.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 18:52:34 -!- h0rm [~athena@cpe-24-210-245-68.woh.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:53:53 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:54:00 -!- kliph [~user@unaffiliated/kliph] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:56:43 Xach: is it update-weekend today? I see my client is from 9-9 which is a Sunday as well :-) 18:56:52 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 19:00:35 pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has joined #lisp 19:00:55 -!- steffi_s [~marioooh@cpe-74-64-56-156.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: zzzz] 19:01:30 -!- theplanet [~eilyx@gateway/tor-sasl/eilyx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:01 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:06:04 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 19:06:14 setheus [~setheus@107-203-153-73.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 19:07:20 -!- otwieracz [~gonet9@v6.gen2.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:08:03 otwieracz [~gonet9@v6.gen2.org] has joined #lisp 19:10:08 -!- mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:10:47 jewel [~jewel@196-215-65-136.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 19:12:10 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:12:43 Hexstream [~hexstream@74.58.138.209] has joined #lisp 19:12:51 Uhh. Is reddit down for anyone else? 19:13:01 atsidi [~nkraft@ip72-192-253-246.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lisp 19:13:28 no 19:13:35 Hexstream: http://www.isup.me/reddit.com 19:13:40 not for me. 19:13:47 I get "page not found". 19:13:58 With a "Yahoo!" favicon. 19:14:12 yahoo your isp? :-) 19:14:17 Nope. 19:14:17 mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has joined #lisp 19:14:55 that smells of a bug in the browser's cache 19:15:02 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 19:15:12 try another browser and try flushing all your DNS caches 19:15:21 i remember the days when i got the yahoo magazine ......lol 19:15:37 I worry I might have accidentally trigger some anti-spam measure, I tried to post and it said "an error occurred while posting (status: 404)", and since then I get only 404's from reddit. 19:15:48 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.255] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:25 Shouldn't a full reload take care of cache problems? 19:17:26 beaumonta [~abeaumont@27.Red-79-152-239.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 19:17:30 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 19:17:48 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-064-180-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:18:29 steffi_s [~marioooh@cpe-74-64-56-156.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 19:18:44 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-181.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 19:19:17 ch077179 [~ch077179@unaffiliated/ch077179] has joined #lisp 19:19:18 -!- abeaumont [~abeaumont@237.Red-79-155-170.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:19:32 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.23] has joined #lisp 19:21:08 vantage|home [~vantage@109.131.173.15] has joined #lisp 19:21:20 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:22:03 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:22:15 Cleared my cache, works now. Weird. 19:23:22 I'm looking for a step by step guide on how to setup a lisp ide on linux 19:23:43 i.e. emacs/common lisp 19:24:21 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 19:25:05 ch077179: http://www.mohiji.org/2011/01/modern-common-lisp-on-linux/ 19:25:36 looking good! 19:25:38 thanks Bike 19:26:14 Seriously, I want to understand what's happening here. http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/112t6v/hexstreamsoft_categorised_programming_mostly/c6izx1m 19:28:11 ch077179, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_4vhsmRRI 19:28:54 -!- arrk13 [~arrakis24@dslb-178-006-103-196.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #lisp 19:29:15 LiamH [~healy@pool-108-7-208-203.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:30:19 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-65-136.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:30:42 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:30:49 dnolen [~user@pool-108-46-109-61.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:32:06 what's slime vs. quicklisp? 19:32:32 Slime is a Lisp IDE extension to emacs, basically. quicklisp is a bit like apt-get for Common Lisp. 19:32:42 -!- zeissoctopus [~zeissocto@183178133120.ctinets.com] has quit [Quit: ] 19:32:47 i got my sbcl and mcclim onto my lappy now even before emacs..... 19:32:56 sssuuuuper duper.... 19:33:24 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 19:33:58 so I need both, quicklisp and slime 19:34:12 -!- mpstyler [~mpstyler@176.73.151.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:34:28 -at least- 19:34:56 you just need, sbcl, quicklisp, slime, mcclim..... 19:35:05 Minus mcclim. 19:35:06 IDE, tadaaaaaaa 19:35:11 :) 19:35:16 you don't need mcclim. slime, quicklisp, and a lisp implementation are the usual. 19:35:50 Bike: why do you advice against mclim ? 19:36:10 not newby friendly ? 19:36:22 It's broken, old, unmaintained, etc 19:36:26 LTK more friendly. 19:36:35 mooore! 19:36:36 hrmmm ok 19:36:50 wbooze: Can you name 5 active mcclim users?... 19:37:01 i try to fix stuff myself on it.....that's maybe why i prefer it.... 19:37:02 Well, not just you, anyone. 19:37:09 but not everyones beer ok..... 19:37:37 wbooze: Using something because you like fixing it is one thing. Recommending it to newbies is another. 19:37:39 Hexstream: me me me me me ! 19:37:41 lol 19:38:02 yeah ok 19:38:16 but a categorical ban of it is nonsense too 19:38:25 at least it should be mentioned...... 19:38:50 for later on..... 19:38:52 Mention it if you like, but do mention unpopularity and brokenness. 19:38:55 -!- steffi_s [~marioooh@cpe-74-64-56-156.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: zzzz] 19:39:03 Or else, don't mention it. 19:39:04 ch asked what was "needed". mcclim is not needed. 19:39:22 Any more than any other somewhat interesting lisp library, like Screamer or whatever. 19:39:25 he asked for ide too 19:39:31 ch077179: try LTK indeed ! It's a good starting point :) 19:39:38 And specified emacs. 19:39:59 We don't need a blogpost from a newbie: "Ah, I tried this Lisp thing but they were mentioning I should use this mcclim thing but it was broken so I gave up and this gave me the idea to warn others not to try this old broken lisp thing..." 19:40:11 ltk is tcl/tk based and glue perl..... 19:40:14 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:40:16 -!- ivan-kanis [~user@lns-c10k-ft-02-t2-89-83-137-164.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 19:40:32 ohhh cool 19:40:43 I like it 19:42:07 -!- atsidi [~nkraft@ip72-192-253-246.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving on a jet plane...] 19:43:12 I'm following the guide on Bike's link 19:43:20 -!- vantage|home [~vantage@109.131.173.15] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 19:43:24 see where this gets me :) 19:43:41 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 19:44:39 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:44:40 yes. It's a good guide! 19:45:15 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 19:47:48 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-234-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:48:39 man i should make a linux sbcl mcclim devel usb and sell it to people here around..... 19:48:39 Sorry, I couldn't find anything for i should make a linux sbcl mcclim devel usb and sell it to people here around...... 19:48:42 lol 19:49:01 oh sorry again oh man 19:49:47 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:50:07 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:51:33 stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-234-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 19:52:48 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-181.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:52:54 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 19:53:38 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-181.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 19:56:28 -!- LiamH [~healy@pool-108-7-208-203.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:58:58 -!- Hexstream [~hexstream@74.58.138.209] has left #lisp 20:00:07 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:01:34 "I'll make the wild assumption that we're on a platform with fully functional swapcontext(3)." 20:03:05 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:04:03 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 20:05:25 -!- sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:08:27 ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has joined #lisp 20:09:40 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.9] has joined #lisp 20:09:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:11:53 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.23] has quit [Quit: (save-lisp-and-die)] 20:12:35 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:12:59 mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.23] has joined #lisp 20:13:04 nlpplz [~nlpplz@24-176-224-131.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #lisp 20:14:06 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 20:17:54 -!- balle [~balle@xdsl-188-155-209-1.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:19:23 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:19:53 -!- Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:31 -!- xpoqz [~xpoqz@80.203.124.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:21:47 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:22:27 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-181.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:23:27 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-181.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 20:24:47 sellout42 [~Adium@65.101.242.214] has joined #lisp 20:27:31 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:29:08 -!- Forty-3 [~seana11@pool-71-191-38-245.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:30:56 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:32:40 kcj [~casey@unaffiliated/kcj] has joined #lisp 20:32:57 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-181.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34:00 -!- slyrus_ [~chatzilla@adsl-99-183-243-129.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:34:45 slyrus_ [~chatzilla@adsl-99-183-243-129.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 20:34:51 Forty-3 [~seana11@pool-71-191-38-245.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 20:35:00 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-165-0.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:32 -!- eldariof [~CLD@pppoe-217-100-dyn-sr.volgaline.ru] has quit [] 20:37:18 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:39:58 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:41:52 riccardo [~riccardo@host29-90-dynamic.251-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 20:42:21 -!- riccardo [~riccardo@host29-90-dynamic.251-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:21 steffi_s [~marioooh@cpe-74-64-56-156.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 20:44:26 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45:19 hugod [~user@bas1-montreal08-1167960209.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 20:45:41 Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 20:46:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:49:07 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:51:26 -!- answer_42 [~answer_42@gateway/tor-sasl/answer42/x-66983568] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9] 20:52:27 -!- _d3f [~d3f@46.183.216.234] has quit [Quit: _d3f] 20:53:54 -!- AlbireoX [~AlbireoX@99-136-83-34.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55:19 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:56:37 s0ber_ [~s0ber@114-36-242-228.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 20:56:41 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:58:21 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 20:58:55 -!- s0ber [~s0ber@114-36-225-219.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:59:07 -!- s0ber_ is now known as s0ber 20:59:12 -!- user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:00:12 Nisstyre-laptop [~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre] has joined #lisp 21:00:23 -!- some_user [~user@d83-183-51-82.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:28 -!- lolprog [~let@94-225-44-126.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:01:46 -!- agumonkey [~agu@206.217.72.86.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:02:14 user123abc [~sally@c-67-171-79-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:03:32 -!- pnpuff [~aeiou@unaffiliated/pnpuff] has quit [Quit: Bye.] 21:04:28 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:07:27 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:07:39 -!- EarlGray^ [~mitra@despairing-occident.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:07:53 -!- ltbarcly1 [~ltbarcly@pool-71-116-78-211.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:12:42 -!- clop [~jared@moat3.centtech.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:12:54 justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 21:13:15 ioa [~xmike@dynamic2-248-005.usc.edu] has joined #lisp 21:13:27 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:13:54 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:14:02 -!- Fullmoon [~Fullmoon@h081217030118.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Quit: Fullmoon] 21:15:08 sindikat [b25822ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.88.34.255] has joined #lisp 21:15:54 hi all! is it possible to avoid funcall, where it is usually used, so i can write (f 1 2 3) instead of (funcall f 1 2 3)? 21:16:05 clop [~jared@moat3.centtech.com] has joined #lisp 21:16:38 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:16:47 (flet ((f (&rest a) (apply f a))) (f 1 2 3)) 21:16:54 which is to say, no, not really. 21:17:26 Bike: so only defun has the power to bind a function to a symbol? 21:17:35 pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has joined #lisp 21:17:42 jleija [~jleija@50.8.41.50] has joined #lisp 21:19:17 no. flet and labels can do it locally, and (setf symbol-function) and (setf fdefinition) can do it globally. What are you trying to do, exactly? 21:20:36 Bike: i want to implement higher-order functions. before i tried (defun func (x) (defun f (n) (= x n)) f), but it doesn't work, while similar structure does work in Python or Scala 21:21:12 sindikat: (defun func (x) (flet ((f (n) (= x n))) #'f)) 21:22:56 sindikat: CL has a separate function namespace, so that you can have variables with the same name as functions (e.g. "list") and such. 21:23:28 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:23:37 Bike: i know about Lisp-2 stuff. what i want to achieve is that ((func 5) 5) expression would be legal. is that possible? 21:25:11 sindikat: no, you'd have to write your own evaluation mechanism. cars of expressions can only be symbols or lambda expressions. 21:26:13 my own evaluation mechanism? how is that possible? 21:26:23 (defun my-eval ...), I mean. 21:26:47 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:26:54 Or I suppose you could write a reader macro, but that's probably a bad idea. 21:28:18 sindikat: any particular reason for the funcall aversion? 21:29:40 -!- puchacz [~puchacz@46-65-36-47.zone16.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:29:42 Bike: just coming from Python background, when i frequently used to return `f` instead of `f()` for example 21:30:46 wouldn't f() return the result of calling the function? 21:30:54 "return f()" I mean. 21:31:29 yes, and return f will return the reference to function, which you can put in a variable like `a = func()` and then do `a()` 21:31:35 or even just func()() 21:31:57 Right. That's #'f in CL. 21:32:12 But you need funcall because of the namespacing. 21:33:33 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:34:44 Bike: anyway, thanks for your help 21:34:46 -!- sindikat [b25822ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.88.34.255] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:35:35 My_Hearing [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has joined #lisp 21:35:55 -!- justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:38:03 -!- Mon_Ouie [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:41:20 -!- lcc [~lcc@unaffiliated/lcc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:42:47 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:45:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:45:53 VieiraN [~VieiraN@187.57.249.176] has joined #lisp 21:46:14 -!- ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:48:07 -!- moore33 [~moore@ABordeaux-153-1-6-47.w92-146.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:52:06 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:52:27 ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has joined #lisp 21:52:28 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@178.138.34.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54:50 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 21:59:14 -!- Alice3 [~Alice@cpc3-grim12-0-0-cust856.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 21:59:35 -!- steffi_s [~marioooh@cpe-74-64-56-156.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: zzzz] 22:00:28 -!- Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:01:20 -!- d3vnu11 [~devnull@174-30.60-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:55 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:02:07 _Mon_Ouie_ [~Mon_Ouie@12.34-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #lisp 22:02:31 Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 22:02:55 d3vnu11 [~devnull@174-30.60-188.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #lisp 22:03:46 ltbarcly1 [~ltbarcly@pool-71-116-78-211.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:04:38 -!- My_Hearing [~Mon_Ouie@subtle/user/MonOuie] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:05:05 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 22:06:47 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:07:11 pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has joined #lisp 22:09:44 -!- ehu [ehu@ip167-22-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:10:51 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:11:16 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@120.154.216.227] has joined #lisp 22:11:38 -!- ltbarcly1 [~ltbarcly@pool-71-116-78-211.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:12:35 ltbarcly1 [~ltbarcly@pool-71-116-78-211.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:14:09 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 22:14:36 -!- ltbarcly1 [~ltbarcly@pool-71-116-78-211.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:15:03 justinmcp [~justinmcp@ppp118-208-8-54.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 22:15:19 ltbarcly1 [~ltbarcly@pool-71-116-78-211.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 22:16:13 -!- ltbarcly1 [~ltbarcly@pool-71-116-78-211.snfcca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 22:19:59 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:22:56 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 22:23:40 -!- em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:23:46 -!- gffa [~unknown@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:29:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:31:18 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-eu1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:31:31 -!- stat_vi [~stat@dslb-094-218-234-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:31:33 em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #lisp 22:31:53 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 22:33:12 -!- pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:35:32 pavelpenev [~quassel@85-130-11-8.2073813645.shumen.cablebg.net] has joined #lisp 22:37:00 -!- sellout42 [~Adium@65.101.242.214] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:38:30 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:40:07 -!- punee [~punee@213-245-106-105.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: punee] 22:40:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 22:45:12 -!- [SLB] is now known as [SLB]` 22:47:10 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:47:49 theplanet [~eilyx@gateway/tor-sasl/eilyx] has joined #lisp 22:48:52 -!- xan_ [~xan@dhcp-18-111-7-121.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:49:49 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 22:50:25 -!- em [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:30 em_ [~em@user-0cev0ko.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 22:53:58 -!- add^_ [~add^_@m90-141-58-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 22:54:18 AlbireoX [~AlbireoX@76.78.168.23] has joined #lisp 22:56:28 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:58:30 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:58:45 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 23:00:06 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 23:00:49 kenanb [~user@unaffiliated/kenanb] has joined #lisp 23:02:44 -!- ikki [~ikki@187.193.162.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:05:34 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:03 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 23:10:14 masq [~yhiselamu@lap.ee] has joined #lisp 23:13:14 what CL bindings are more mature, qt ones or gtk? 23:13:38 commonqt is the most used, I think. 23:14:57 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:15:22 commonqt works best at the moment, I think 23:16:07 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:24 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 23:17:31 ikki [~ikki@200.92.68.184] has joined #lisp 23:17:53 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 23:19:20 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-24-12.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22:21 -!- iLogical [~iLogical@unaffiliated/ilogical] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:46 LiamH [~healy@pool-108-7-208-203.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:24:04 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:26:46 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 23:27:31 nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-24-12.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 23:29:56 -!- mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:30 mjs2600 [~mjs2600@user-0c999kc.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #lisp 23:32:46 Rakko [~rakko@96-42-31-132.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #lisp 23:33:47 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:36:51 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 23:39:15 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-147-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:40:39 -!- ikki [~ikki@200.92.68.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:43:34 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-147-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 23:43:34 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:43:35 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-147-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:46:40 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 23:48:18 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-147-190.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 23:48:25 -!- deadghost [~deadghost@71-84-68-72.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:20 *p_l* ponders implementing CL on top of CLR 23:49:25 seems easier than Java 23:49:28 -!- pnq [~nick@unaffiliated/pnq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:49:43 -!- dnolen [~user@pool-108-46-109-61.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:52:04 -!- bitonic [~user@027cae25.bb.sky.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52:20 deadghost [~deadghost@71-84-68-72.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com] has joined #lisp 23:53:20 ikki [~ikki@200.92.68.184] has joined #lisp 23:53:54 -!- lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:56:11 lggr [~lggr@84-73-159-126.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 23:58:28 psykotron [~aria@67.166.148.128] has joined #lisp