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If you can't spell, you won't be able to cast spells. 00:42:14 zealinux: eg. "I" is written "I", not "i". 00:42:39 zealinux: grammar imports too. It's "sbcl prompts", not "sbcl prompt". 00:42:41 I am so sorry 00:42:53 those things should have been learned at primary school. 00:44:22 pjb: not in a good mood? 00:44:27 zealinux: now, I wasn't too good in orthography or grammar myself in school. But if you like programming, you have to become better in those matter. 00:44:39 matters 00:44:45 zealinux: It looks as though ssl support is at compile time; that is, :hunchentoot-no-ssl should be in *features* when you compile, not when you require. 00:45:40 -!- ferada [~ferada@dslb-088-069-043-179.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:45:46 -!- manahino [~manahino@softbank126108006128.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:52 ... anyone interested in lisp on HP-PA? 00:46:13 -!- stlifey [~stlifey@119.121.145.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:46:30 pjb: "grammar imports too" isn't grammatically correct, as long as we're being pedantic 00:46:43 p_l: does the HP-PA come free with the lisp 00:46:45 Bike: really? 00:47:16 Guthur: no, but CMU supports it, I think, and SBCL *did* support it once, and it look slike I'll get a HP-PA 00:47:20 Bike: I remember I have installed hunchentoot yesterday by quicklisp 00:47:21 p_l: I don't seem to have a qemu for it. I've got mips and mips64. 00:47:31 "imports" is a transitive verb in English, like "The US imports from China." As far as I know there's no sense like "to be important" 00:47:38 well, that's not transitive, oops. 00:47:46 -!- puchacz [~puchacz@87-194-5-99.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:47:52 pjb: no emulators available, afaik 00:48:16 Bike: import - intransitive verb: to be of consequence : matter 00:48:34 it's just that I'm offered a HP Visualize in exchange for some other stuff, and I was looking into a legitimate use 00:48:47 Bike: how to do now, Do I recompile hunchentoot? 00:49:10 Bike: English is one of the most overloaded and ambiguous languages. 00:49:23 zealinux: yes. 00:49:32 no argument there. I've just never heard of that sense. 00:50:07 zealinux: Yes, that seems like the thing to do. 00:50:50 zealinux: notice that require would not even reload the module if it was already loaded. 00:51:48 pjb: what command can do it 00:52:04 zealinux: you'd have to use load to reload it. ql:quickload or asdf:load-system would reload it. 00:52:43 But quickload or load-system won't recompile it if it's already compiled. 00:53:32 -!- S11001001 [~sirian@fsf/member/S11001001] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 00:53:33 asdf systems don't include *features* in their dependencies. When you change *features*, you need to delete the binaries, and to "unload" the systems, before. 00:54:21 -!- ered-away [~ered@108-201-125-162.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:54:41 After deleting the binaries (in ~/.cache/common-lisp usually), you can use (let ((system :hunchentoot)) (asdf:clear-system system) (ql:quickload system)) to reload it. 00:54:51 recompile and reload. 00:55:07 pjb: when close the slime, It must be recompiled every time? 00:56:06 Why do you want to close the slime? 00:56:31 But in any case, compiled files are kept in ~/.cache/common-lisp and if the sources don't change they won't be recompiled, even if you change *features*. 00:59:20 pjb: which file storaged the vriable *feature* in 00:59:29 None. 00:59:48 I guess that's why asdf doesn't establish any dependencies on the tokens of the *feature* list. 01:05:47 patrickwonders [~patrickwo@c-75-73-64-95.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 01:08:01 -!- 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07:43:28 (or t, for that matter - basically, the warning is a result of the compiler being smart) 07:44:04 (declare (sb-ext:muffle-conditions sb-ext:compiler-note)) 07:44:23 in the macro? 07:44:27 more precisely, (declare (sb-ext:muffle-conditions sb-ext:code-deletion-note)) 07:45:02 yeah, that works. thanks! 07:45:20 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-240-114.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 07:49:50 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:49:53 -!- pnq [~nick@AC812757.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:50:14 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.91] has joined #lisp 07:54:32 -!- Siphonblast [~Siphonbla@c-98-210-95-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:57:53 -!- Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.9.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:59:12 stlifey [~stlifey@119.121.147.68] has joined #lisp 07:59:20 -!- slyrus_ [~chatzilla@99-28-161-110.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:59:23 tomodo [~tomodo@gateway/tor-sasl/tomodo] has joined #lisp 08:00:21 Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.14.4] has joined #lisp 08:04:10 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 08:05:45 jiandxu [7ae9ea21@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.233.234.33] has joined #lisp 08:11:08 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 08:11:56 -!- stlifey [~stlifey@119.121.147.68] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 08:18:31 -!- nialo` [~nialo@ool-182d5684.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:19:24 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-58-92.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #lisp 08:19:24 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-58-92.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 08:19:24 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 08:20:54 easiere [d52f4724@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.47.71.36] has joined #lisp 08:25:06 -!- Kvaks [~kvaks@15.123.34.95.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:39 -!- jiandxu [7ae9ea21@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.233.234.33] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:26:37 -!- saschakb` [~skbierm@p4FEA0C3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:27:22 ivan-kanis [~user@89.83.137.164] has joined #lisp 08:32:47 tiglog [~topeak@123.114.124.21] has joined #lisp 08:33:47 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:34:24 Khisanth [~Khisanth@50.14.244.111] has joined #lisp 08:37:42 DukePatience [~patience@CPE-121-216-33-118.lnse1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 08:39:09 -!- ur5us [~ur5us@210.193.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:39:36 -!- easiere [d52f4724@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.47.71.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:39:40 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-240-114.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:40:24 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-240-114.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 08:42:23 -!- mutley89 [~mutley89@cpc1-hudd6-0-0-cust741.4-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:45:16 c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lisp 08:46:36 -!- harish [~harish@119.234.11.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:49:01 xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.229.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 08:50:01 -!- c_arenz [~arenz@HSI-KBW-109-193-252-079.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:50:57 LaPingvino [~LaPingvin@d54C06DE6.access.telenet.be] has joined #lisp 08:58:26 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:44 seeg [~przemek@77-254-226-8.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #lisp 09:04:47 hello 09:05:09 i have a problem running slime under archlinux with sbcl 09:05:34 namely, I do not get into repl, just *inferior-lisp*, with this message: 09:05:47 debugger invoked on a SIMPLE-ERROR in thread 09:05:48 #: 09:05:48 Unexpected errno 2 09:05:59 are you using quicklisp? 09:06:48 You need to add some stuff rto your .emacs rc 09:07:01 Let me just check for you 09:07:24 Ah .emacs lol not emacsrc 09:07:34 -!- abeaumont [~abeaumont@90.165.165.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:07:51 DukePatience: seeg gets an error, i don't think what is in .emacs is relevant 09:08:13 if i use clisp, all works fine 09:08:34 i've tried (slime-setup), (slime-setup '(slime-fancy)) and (slime-setup '(slime-repl)) but none of these work 09:08:35 seeg: do you use slime from quicklisp or the latest cvs? 09:08:42 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 09:08:48 seeg: Make sure it contains http://pastebin.com/Qqy24NyX 09:08:56 i guess it's the latest cvs, i build a package from aur on archlinux 09:09:02 Yeah seeg 09:09:09 Default arch slime 09:09:22 Uses some ugly settings 09:09:24 DukePatience, I have these 09:09:56 Including the (slime-setup '(slime-fancy))? 09:10:03 DukePatience: this is irrelevant 09:10:12 yes 09:10:25 seeg: what does M-x slime-changelog-date return? 09:10:28 My bad, I should have actually red your error =P 09:11:26 stassats, well, I can't tell really, since my minibuffer keeps displaying 'Polling "/tmp/slime.2307..."' 09:11:44 seeg: do M-x slime-abort-connection 09:11:58 2012-05-04 09:12:34 did it work before? 09:12:43 and what's your sbcl version? 09:12:55 no, I'm just starting my lisp adventure, so I've run this today for the first time ;) 09:13:07 sbcl version is 1.0.56-1 09:13:10 well, 1.0.56 09:13:34 Can we see a copy of your .emacs? 09:13:51 sure 09:14:56 http://pastebin.com/vmzEKT1Y 09:15:39 nothing relevant, as was expected 09:16:18 (setq load-path (cons "~/.emacs.d" load-path)) 09:16:44 Isn't that overwriting what load-path is previously containing? 09:16:51 no 09:16:58 Nvmnd 09:17:10 (setq inferior-lisp-program "/usr/bin/sbcl") 09:17:22 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:17:23 DukePatience: you're not helping 09:17:44 seeg: can you go to the directory where slime resides and run sbcl --load start-swank.lisp 09:17:51 and then do M-x slime-connect 09:19:02 connection refused 09:19:09 sbcl throws an error 09:19:27 paste the error 09:19:30 ok 09:19:43 http://pastebin.com/ds0jKhwB 09:20:11 ok, that's what i expected, do you have /etc/protocols file? 09:20:23 nope 09:20:31 well, there's your problem 09:23:06 -!- xan_ [~xan@80.174.78.229.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:23:34 seeg: install iana-etc package 09:23:37 ah, great, works now :) 09:23:43 thanks stassats 09:24:24 seeg: and now what DukePatience said, (slime-setup '(slime-fancy)) is way more cool than just (slime-setup '(slime-repl)) 09:24:32 mhm, ok 09:24:40 seeg: and do you know about quicklisp? 09:24:49 no 09:24:59 minion: please tell seeg about quicklisp 09:25:00 seeg: direct your attention towards quicklisp: Quicklisp aims to make it easy to get started with a rich set of community-developed Common Lisp libraries. http://www.cliki.net/quicklisp 09:29:34 Hussaind [~hussain@115.124.115.71] has joined #lisp 09:29:43 -!- Hussaind [~hussain@115.124.115.71] has left #lisp 09:38:31 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39:51 ok, thanks stassats 09:41:17 and what resource are you using to learn? 09:41:37 Practical Common Lisp is a good one 09:46:14 its practical, its lisp, whats not to like 09:46:18 yes, that's exactly what I'm reading right now ;) 09:46:58 would be nice to have web edition for all the "how do I webapp" questions... 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I would prefer to do Haskell things in Lisp. 12:23:19 Has this line of thinking been explored much? 12:24:07 there's liskell, but it's pointless 12:24:45 Pointless to use, probably... would reading the source be educational? 12:25:53 just learn the ordinary haskell 12:26:10 add^_ [~add^_^@m37-2-232-184.cust.tele2.se] has joined #lisp 12:26:49 it's like saying "i want to learn lisp, but i don't want to use parenthesis" 12:27:04 You have a point. 12:27:07 -!- ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:27:07 all learning materials are going to use the regular syntax anywyas 12:27:42 mstevens [~mstevens@mobile.etla.org] has joined #lisp 12:27:42 -!- mstevens [~mstevens@mobile.etla.org] has quit [Changing host] 12:27:42 mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #lisp 12:30:33 passionke [~Administr@58.100.66.189] has joined #lisp 12:31:20 -!- Involuntary [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Did you 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seconds] 15:12:42 nullman [~nullman@c-75-73-150-26.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:21:02 -!- francogrex [~user@109.130.103.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21:34 hello 15:24:12 hello 15:26:28 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:26:34 totzeit [~kirkwood@c-71-227-253-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:26:53 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 15:27:37 borkman: there's Qi and Shen 15:27:59 which may be different parts of the same system. 15:28:09 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-142.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:42 Fade: thanks. I'll look them up. 15:30:16 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-142.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 15:32:56 -!- theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:35:16 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-50-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:36:14 Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 15:36:30 theos [~theos@unaffiliated/theos] has joined #lisp 15:36:58 Qi is pretty impressive, but the licensing is a little odd. 15:37:19 anyhow, the wikipedia article gives a fair overview. 15:37:40 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs27123025.pp.htv.fi] has joined #lisp 15:38:29 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.148.156] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:38:50 mathrick [~mathrick@85.218.148.156] has joined #lisp 15:39:15 -!- Spion_ [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:40:18 anyone seen Xach lately? 15:40:47 there have been rumblings about a QL release this weekend. he's probably up to his neck in work. 15:42:10 -!- gravicappa 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19:48:34 <|3b|> or to specify the other parameter to FLOAT 19:48:45 (coerce 42.0d0 'single-float) => 42.0 19:48:51 |3b|: Thank you. 19:49:02 <|3b|> (float 42d0 1f0) 19:49:24 Also nice. 19:51:12 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.91] has joined #lisp 19:52:42 -!- paul0 [~paul0@189.114.197.29.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:52:59 didi: is this just for printing? 19:57:46 DDR [~chatzilla@d142-179-78-231.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #lisp 19:58:50 paul0 [~paul0@201.47.45.226.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #lisp 19:58:53 jasox [~jasox@178.239.26.130] has joined #lisp 19:58:55 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@75.Red-88-7-128.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 20:01:31 stlifey [~stlifey@119.121.147.68] has joined #lisp 20:03:40 -!- nipra [~nipra@122.177.28.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:04:59 adu [~ajr@ip-64-134-242-90.public.wayport.net] has joined #lisp 20:07:41 -!- rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 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Hard to fit 64 bit values + tag in 64 bits. 20:45:50 ah, right 20:46:12 -!- booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:25 how does SBCL differentiate between immediate and boxed values? 20:46:32 Ralith: with tags. 20:46:38 how do you tag a pointer? 20:46:51 immediate values are boxed too 20:46:54 aren't they 64 bit values too? 20:46:54 Ralith: by ensuring sufficient alignment. 20:46:55 booyaa` [~booyaa@adsl-67-121-157-253.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #lisp 20:47:29 ah, they only allocate on largish boundaries, and use the LSBs for metadata? 20:47:37 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-71.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:47:48 Ralith: for 16 byte values of largish (: 20:49:21 Ralith_ [~ralith@63.64.64.178] has joined #lisp 20:49:55 -!- Ralith [~ralith@63.64.64.178] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51:31 -!- MoALTz [~no@host-92-2-117-115.as43234.net] has quit [Quit: brb] 20:54:38 Is there a way to print a float using local standards? For example, using `,' as the decimal separator and not `.'. 20:55:24 bobbysmith0071 [~russ@216.155.103.30] has joined #lisp 20:56:04 didi: no 20:56:10 too many dots in pathname wtf... 20:56:10 didi: I wrote some manual routines for that in my code. 20:56:17 didi: No standard way. 20:56:52 Hum, I see... 20:57:09 Phoodus [~foo@ip72-223-116-248.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 20:57:59 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-61-39.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 20:58:20 is that a new bug in sbcl or so ? 20:58:29 homie: in your code 20:58:30 -!- bobbysmith007 [~russ@216.155.103.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:58:35 didi: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129321  not very pretty, but I'm not experienced either 20:58:45 antoszka: Thanks! 21:00:06 (substitute #\, #\. (format nil "~F" 4.5)) (: 21:00:49 statonjr [~statonjr@cpe-098-024-165-246.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 21:01:45 Well, I'm using the ~$ directive and also adding a dot-thousands-separator every thousand. 21:01:57 -!- Ralith_ [~ralith@63.64.64.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:04:23 Wqer [~riz@adsl-99-24-231-223.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 21:05:05 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:51 you could format the integer part separately, then a dot, then the other numbers 21:10:14 dim: how do you extract the other numbers? 21:10:24 isn't floor made for that? 21:10:55 not exactly 21:11:08 CL-USER> (multiple-value-list (floor 1234.56)) 21:11:08 (1234 0.5600586) 21:11:32 yeah, float hence not exactly, I suppose :) 21:11:33 (floor 2444.40) => 2444 0.39990234 21:14:44 http://paste.lisp.org/display/129321#1 21:15:18 karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 21:16:35 stassats`: that's exact, though. 21:16:53 pkhuong: what is? 21:17:37 the computation. (- 2444.40 2444.0) => 0.39990234. 21:18:06 pkhuong: but you won't be able to print it as 2444.40 21:18:21 it'll be 2444.39 21:18:55 stassats`: (format t "~,2f~%" 0.39990234) wfm. 21:19:25 stassats`: who rounds .39990 to .39? 21:19:29 you have extra 0. 21:20:18 stassats`: oh, that's what you're worried about. (round 0.39990234 .01) works fine too. 21:21:59 (round (rational 0.39990234) 1/100) if you're worried about the imprecision in 0.01 21:23:10 Ralith [~ralith@63.64.64.178] has joined #lisp 21:23:52 -!- alvis` [~user@tx-184-6-180-2.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:24:16 maybe "inaccuracy" is a better word 21:25:07 stassats`: Cool. 21:25:35 stassats`: I can now delete the how about from the comment ;) 21:26:37 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.39.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:27:34 antoszka: http://paste.lisp.org/display/129321#2 21:27:53 o 21:27:55 TimKack [~user@c-2ec2be8e-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined #lisp 21:30:10 -!- ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:31:13 antoszka: should be "~,,'.:d,~2,'0d" 21:31:14 (round (* 100 x)) is exact as well. 21:31:55 stassats`: thx 21:32:52 well, and don't use floating point for money 21:33:33 -!- Guest56717 is now known as xristos 21:34:01 Yeah, that's a problem I have not fundamentally solved yet :) 21:34:22 -!- Ralith [~ralith@63.64.64.178] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 21:34:25 you can donate pennies to charities and only use integers 21:34:27 Ralith [~ralith@63.64.64.178] has joined #lisp 21:34:41 :) 21:35:13 vervic [~vervic@188-23-238-165.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #lisp 21:44:31 there exist base ten floats in the new IEEE standard, but they are not very widely supported. 21:44:33 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-5f75d5b7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:45:28 probably only IBM's mainframes, which gained binary FP after decimal, iirc. 21:46:39 mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has joined #lisp 21:46:39 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@88.208.105.6] has quit [Changing host] 21:46:39 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 21:50:24 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m37-2-232-184.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 21:51:22 seangrove [~user@c-71-202-126-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:52:50 pnq [~nick@AC82E8AE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 21:54:07 -!- nipra [~nipra@122.177.28.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:55:30 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 21:58:58 -!- saschakb [~skbierm@p4FEA0F37.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:08 saschakb [~skbierm@p4FEA0F37.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 22:00:35 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-11-244.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:02:00 -!- mnemonicide [~aperture@ninthfloor.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:08 -!- pnq [~nick@AC82E8AE.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:02:53 madalu [~user@unaffiliated/madalu] has joined #lisp 22:04:20 pnq [~nick@AC82E8AE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 22:05:35 -!- Radium [~rajesh.na@117.203.7.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:23 -!- saschakb [~skbierm@p4FEA0F37.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:43 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:08:51 Ah, I finally start using sldb with stepping, breakpoint and moving between frames with sugar. 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23:39:26 how do I correct that? 23:39:39 Ralith: platform? 23:39:45 x86 linux 23:40:02 I may have mangled my build env, though, hold on 23:41:03 what's the svn equivalent of git reset --hard master? 23:41:15 -!- ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:41:49 BrianRice` [~water@75-172-8-148.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 23:41:51 -!- BrianRice [~water@75-172-8-148.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:51 -!- BrianRice` is now known as BrianRice 23:43:30 BrianRice` [~water@75-172-8-148.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 23:43:30 -!- BrianRice [~water@75-172-8-148.tukw.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:31 -!- BrianRice` is now known as BrianRice 23:44:50 republican_devil [~ddcgavins@pool-108-13-218-184.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:44:52 *Ralith* just makes a fresh checkout 23:45:24 http://weblocks.viridian-project.de/can someone explain the advantage over bluebream or ruby rails of this? 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