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Hi all; 08:18:48 ivan-kanis [~user@nantes.visionobjects.com] has joined #lisp 08:19:22 -!- sacho_ [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:19:53 sacho_ [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has joined #lisp 08:20:18 -!- ivan-kanis [~user@nantes.visionobjects.com] has quit [Client Quit] 08:20:47 ivan-kanis [~user@nantes.visionobjects.com] has joined #lisp 08:22:39 -!- c_arenz [~arenz@1Cust140.tnt12.fft4.deu.da.uu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:22:54 -!- sacho_ [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:23:21 sacho_ [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has joined #lisp 08:26:37 -!- ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has quit [Quit: ddp] 08:27:13 kilon [~user@178.59.17.196] has joined #lisp 08:29:08 -!- toekutr [~user@50-0-51-2.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:31:35 Blkt [~user@89-96-199-46.ip13.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 08:32:44 good morning everyone 08:33:25 how can I iterate a list with 2 consecutive elements in each iteration? (I asked this question yesterday but can't find the logs) 08:36:08 osa1: (loop for a in list1 for b in list2 do (stuff-with a b)) ; that? 08:36:12 good morning Blkt 08:36:27 madnificent: a and b are in the same list 08:36:38 and they are consecutive 08:37:14 osa1: (loop for (a b) on list do ...) 08:37:19 BlankVerse [~pankajm@202.3.77.219] has joined #lisp 08:37:26 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 08:37:52 osa1: (loop for (a b) on list by #'cddr do ...) if you don't want repeats 08:37:59 sacho [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has joined #lisp 08:38:22 Ralith: thanks 08:40:40 -!- sacho_ [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42:44 -!- gniourf_gniourf [~Gniourf@2a01:e35:2433:3b90:222:41ff:fe23:8d8e] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42:47 sacho_ [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has joined #lisp 08:43:24 :D 08:43:54 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@85-18-55-37.ip.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:45:40 -!- sacho [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:46:13 kiuma [~kiuma@85-18-55-37.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 08:48:09 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has joined #lisp 08:49:14 -!- Shozan is now known as SHODAN 08:54:39 -!- pnathan [~Adium@98.145.117.147] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:56:26 nha [~prefect@imamac13.epfl.ch] has joined #lisp 09:01:40 -!- neoesque [~neoesque@210.59.147.232] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 09:02:01 -!- hba [~hba@189.130.178.126] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:02:03 msponge [~msponge@18.189.103.48] has joined #lisp 09:04:38 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:04:42 schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has joined #lisp 09:04:54 -!- sacho_ [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:32 sacho [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has joined #lisp 09:05:35 -!- kilon is now known as kilon_away 09:05:37 mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.112.130] has joined #lisp 09:06:24 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:07:19 jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 09:08:09 -!- arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6] 09:08:28 -!- sacho [~sacho@95-42-91-219.btc-net.bg] has quit [Client Quit] 09:08:37 -!- hasnointentions [~hasnointe@ip72-195-135-173.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:09:38 kisp11 [~kisp@g231208214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #lisp 09:10:02 mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #lisp 09:10:37 mathslinux [~user@119.255.44.227] has joined #lisp 09:11:10 arbscht [~arbscht@fsf/member/arbscht] has joined #lisp 09:13:38 jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has joined #lisp 09:14:58 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-38-154-129.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: sleep. sorry, juan] 09:15:10 -!- mathrick_ [~mathrick@85.218.148.156] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:27 mathrick_ [~mathrick@85.218.148.156] has joined #lisp 09:16:39 -!- gko [~gko@110-27-165-202.adsl.fetnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:17:24 -!- tensorpudding [~michael@99.148.193.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:18:52 -!- rmathews [~roshan@122.174.18.163] has quit [Quit: ...] 09:20:27 -!- jcazevedo [~jcazevedo@bl18-112-58.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:21:08 trebor_dki [~user@mail.dki.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #lisp 09:21:36 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-169-142.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37:37 Jeanne-Kamikaze [~Jeanne-Ka@99.Red-88-11-28.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 09:37:59 nostoi [~nostoi@3.Red-81-44-158.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 09:42:13 -!- echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:43:46 hall_ [~somenick1@94.72.132.195] has joined #lisp 09:44:14 -!- trebor_dki [~user@mail.dki.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:44:59 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:49:39 -!- teggi [148b9232@gateway/web/freenode/ip.20.139.146.50] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:49:41 jjkola_work [c064748e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.100.116.142] has joined #lisp 09:50:15 hi 09:51:46 does anybody know if Volkan Yazic frequencts here? 09:52:05 s/frequencts/frequents/ 09:53:10 I have a problem with meta-sexp which I would like to discuss with him 09:53:50 mvilleneuve [~mvilleneu@LLagny-156-36-4-214.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 09:53:51 fractal_heart [~mzhang@108-66-116-155.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 09:54:25 good morning 09:54:44 asvil, there's that SWIG thing.. 09:54:50 -!- entrix [~entrix@95-27-171-137.broadband.corbina.ru] has left #lisp 09:55:27 robde [~robde@pC19F77AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 09:55:40 asvil, you've phrased your question not clearly enough to be sure what you need, though.. 09:56:34 good morning mvilleneuve 09:56:45 mvilleneuve: did you work together with beach? 09:56:47 good morning, indeed! 09:57:08 -!- Blkt [~user@89-96-199-46.ip13.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:58:26 mvilleneuve, by the way, Robert didn't reply from his new address yet.. 09:59:28 rmathews [~roshan@59.92.86.185] has joined #lisp 10:00:52 -!- nostoi [~nostoi@3.Red-81-44-158.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:01:36 anonus has a good idea today. :) 10:02:18 Why not hardcode some distro- and OS-specific directory in asdf:*central-registry* which will be used even with --no-sysinit? 10:02:47 anonus: Maybe because Win didn't have symlinks back in the day. 10:03:00 clfswm is still unstable for me. 10:03:09 Kryztof: Which version of clfswm are you using? 10:05:21 c_arenz [arenz@nat/ibm/x-rlkoroklwjssqnbw] has joined #lisp 10:06:10 madnificent: he taught "advanced programming" when I was in college in 1998, later I made some very modest contributions to some of his projects 10:06:45 what? 10:07:08 mvilleneuve: ah, so you don't know what he's up to these days either? 10:07:33 Neronus: what error does it throw you? 10:08:02 Neronus: i boot it by starting up my x session with emacs, that makes finding bugs easier 10:08:54 -!- DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08:56 rudi_ [~rudi@1x-193-157-206-11.uio.no] has joined #lisp 10:09:16 -!- rudi_ is now known as rudi 10:09:22 Kryztof: Sorry, I thought I talked to you about clfswm. 10:10:24 Neronus: you talked to me about it :) 10:10:26 madnificent: not at all, no... 10:10:35 madnificent: I had an error where a setf couldn't be found when I tried the "open next window in a new frame" thing. Another thing is that it resets at some points and I haven't found out why yet. I think I'll try that with the emacs session, though. 10:10:45 mvilleneuve: ah well, thanks anyways 10:11:06 -!- hall_ [~somenick1@94.72.132.195] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:42 madnificent: Anothing thing that bugs me: When I want to close a window I hit "del" in second mode. Sometimes I accidentally hit a frame instead, all windows in it disappear and I don't know how to get them back. Any hints? 10:12:32 Neronus: no! I've wondered about that also. I've only been using clfswm for a few days. Let me know if you figure it out! 10:12:42 Neronus: also, I tend to use q in second mode to quit applications 10:12:58 'twasn't I 10:13:02 DGASAU [~user@91.218.144.129] has joined #lisp 10:13:04 i don't think q deletes windows 10:13:18 Kryztof: I learned that, too :) Sorry to have bothered you 10:15:28 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:16:14 Neronus: the layouts confuse me from time to time as well. i'm sure these things will become clearer by using it though (or by finding a decent manual) 10:17:32 marsell [~marsell@120.18.205.205] has joined #lisp 10:17:39 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 10:21:08 Kenjin [~josesanto@bl6-188-65.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 10:30:08 deepfire: thanks. 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timeout: 255 seconds] 13:22:00 is LOAD only way to load a package from another file? 13:22:20 osa1: in CL, a package is an object that manages symbols. 13:22:31 load does not load a package 13:22:31 osa1: LOAD is a function that loads a Lisp file. 13:23:46 so how do yo u load a package ? 13:23:55 if not with asdf ?! 13:24:43 Neronus: i have a local branch with some edits in it. but in essence, the master branch of git://common-lisp.net/projects/clfswm/clfswm.git should work 13:24:44 homie: I'm LOADing the file that defining the package. all function definitions in the package is also in this file. 13:25:01 ASDF loads systems, which are just a collection of files really, which in turn will define a package. And of course, asdf uses load to load those files 13:25:24 homie: read this http://xach.livejournal.com/278047.html 13:25:35 osa1: That will update your environment to incorporate the new package 13:26:48 madnificent: For me it produces the setf-errors when I use that. I use the last tagged release version instead. 13:28:43 so without a defsystem i can't load a package ? 13:28:55 via quicklisp i mean.... 13:29:06 Neronus: what key combo initiates the setf issue? 13:29:11 homie: Incorrect. 13:29:17 say i only have a defpackage in some file 13:29:28 homie: there's a difference between a package and a "module" 13:30:07 -!- mathrick_ [~mathrick@85.218.148.156] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30:15 mathrick_ [~mathrick@85.218.148.156] has joined #lisp 13:30:24 madnificent: if I remember correctly o,C-o,a or C-a in second mode and then opening a new window (say, a terminal) 13:31:01 I don't want to try it right now because I'm not inclined to crash my currently working set up. I've got real work todo that, to my displeasure, revolves around Java 13:32:00 rme [~rme@50.43.137.115] has joined #lisp 13:32:02 Neronus: start a new x session next to the one you have, that's what i just did. i should create a new frame when calling C-a in second mode and it should then place the new window in that frame, correct? 13:32:24 madnificent: That's what I hoped to achieve :) 13:32:55 works under ubuntu 11.10 x86_64 + amd64 sbcl 1.0.55 13:33:14 *madnificent* tries under ecl 13:33:20 Mhh.. Maybe I'll find time to research research the problem this WE 13:33:30 I was just annoyed, used the tagged version instead 13:33:35 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-195-196.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 13:34:19 -!- c_arenz [arenz@nat/ibm/x-rlkoroklwjssqnbw] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:35:07 Neronus: if you have any custom settings in your .sbclrc or something of the likes, feel free to throw them my way 13:35:30 works under ecl locally also, but my repository is slightly different 13:35:57 madnificent: I'm using a 32-bit SBCL 13:36:01 oh well 13:36:03 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-134-213.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:36:06 thanks for trying 13:36:48 sorry i couldn't help 13:37:04 bjonnh [~bjonnh@147.210.71.83] has joined #lisp 13:37:12 -!- am0c [~am0c@124.49.51.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:37:20 -!- mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:37:36 I should replace the usual clfswm-catch-all-conditions by something that tucks away all windows, open an emacs, opens a swank server, connects and then resignals the message 13:38:39 you won't be able to open the emacs window anymore when you're in that phase, creating the swank server should work though 13:40:53 Well, that depends on the error, I guess. This is something that definitly should be continuable. 13:41:15 Its not so fatal that clfswm should reset and forget my complete layout 13:41:25 Neronus: no, the thing is that you'll be outside the main loop and thus clfswm can't manage the window 13:41:38 Good point. 13:42:05 well, then is should just open swank. There's still the good old terminal 13:42:35 -!- kennyd [~kennyd@78-1-140-252.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:43:48 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-195-196.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:45:50 yeah, that wouldn't be a problem 13:46:11 Neronus: or, again, just start another X session then, start emacs in there and let it connect to the swank session :) 13:46:17 then you'll have a gui again :) 13:46:33 or fancier fonts, or what have you 13:48:52 kennyd [~kennyd@93-141-110-193.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 13:50:44 Would make debugging nicer, anyway 13:50:50 back to the work I'm paid for 13:53:36 Borbie [~user@cmp-d-8k1gx2j.cmp.uea.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 13:53:46 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 13:54:12 _nix00 [~Adium@114.92.122.113] has joined #lisp 13:54:46 ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has joined #lisp 13:54:57 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-195-196.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 13:55:27 Is defsystem part of asdf? 13:55:43 [SLB] [~balthasar@unaffiliated/slabua] has joined #lisp 13:55:51 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.212.76] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 13:56:35 -!- jtza8 [~jtza8@196-210-142-210.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:03 Borbie: asdf defines a defsystem, yes. 13:57:30 Borbie: defsystem is a general concept, and asdf is a particular implementation of the concept. it's currently the only one people really use these days. 13:58:14 -!- nitro_idiot [~nitro_idi@122x221x184x68.ap122.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:05 Ah, I couldn't seem to call asdf, but of course it is asdf:defsystem 13:59:28 Should the file with defsystem in have (in-package :asdf) ? 13:59:55 gko [~gko@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lisp 14:00:11 Borbie: I prefer to use asdf:defsystem 14:00:19 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:00:29 Borbie: Using (in-package asdf) risks unintentionally messing with ASDF symbols. 14:01:09 Cool, ok 14:01:19 -!- Athas [~athas@shop3.diku.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:07 LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #lisp 14:02:24 Some people with complex systems will do something like (defpackage my-project-system (:use cl asdf)) (in-package my-project-system) 14:03:26 maartenv [~maartenv@131.174.33.137] has joined #lisp 14:03:34 That makes sense 14:03:49 kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.212.76] has joined #lisp 14:04:14 -!- maartenv [~maartenv@131.174.33.137] has quit [Client Quit] 14:04:35 On my other install I had some .asd files automatically loaded at lisp startup so I guess they were eval'd in the asdf package which is why they worked 14:05:33 I can't remember how I did that though 14:05:35 Borbie: yes, ASDF sets up a temporary package that inherits ASDF symbols. 14:05:41 before loading an .asd file. 14:05:56 *Xach* prefers to write it asdf:defsystem anyway because it helps slime understand 14:14:50 sysop_fb [~fb@108-66-160-34.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 14:19:07 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-169-142.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 14:19:39 pnq [~nick@ACA26D81.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 14:28:40 Hi, is there a listener equivalent of slime's M-. on a method name? 14:29:23 chrnybo: I think the easiest thing might be to read slime source to see how it does what it does. 14:29:35 Unless someone here knows and can briefly explain immediately... 14:29:54 the race is on... 14:31:27 -!- TristamWrk [~tristamwr@bodhilinux/team/Tristam] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:31:49 TristamWrk [~tristamwr@ceesit01.nees.rpi.edu] has joined #lisp 14:31:49 -!- TristamWrk [~tristamwr@ceesit01.nees.rpi.edu] has quit [Changing host] 14:31:49 TristamWrk [~tristamwr@bodhilinux/team/Tristam] has joined #lisp 14:33:10 -!- vantage|work [~chatzilla@d5152EDDB.static.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]] 14:33:38 *chrnybo* comes up for air 14:33:50 Xach: (dspec:find-name-locations dspec:*dspec-classes* generic-method-name) did it. 14:34:20 What implementation is that? 14:34:29 LispWorks 14:34:33 Ah 14:35:35 krrrcks [~user@mail.systemhaus-brunner.de] has joined #lisp 14:35:37 -!- sellout [~Adium@c-98-245-162-253.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:36:50 Hi, I have a Hunchentoot question: I have a URI say "/foo" and want to download a file via that URI via HANDLE-STATIC-FILE. But the resulting file name when it comes to the download should be something different e.g. "bar.pdf". 14:37:11 Any hint how I get this? 14:37:46 krrrcks: you can add a header. one moment... 14:38:13 Ah. Header, I was looking at that. But didn't find the right header... 14:38:37 I use this: Content-disposition: attachment; filename=bar.pdf 14:39:31 Ah! Great, I'll test it! 14:40:31 -!- robde [~robde@wlan-93-121.uni-koblenz.de] has quit [Quit: Gone.] 14:44:53 Works! 14:44:58 Xach: Thxalot! 14:45:17 bsamograd [~user@184.71.240.90] has joined #lisp 14:45:19 No problem. It 14:45:26 It is something I use quite a lot on wigflip.com 14:45:58 c_arenz [arenz@nat/ibm/x-ouecfriemahrhius] has joined #lisp 14:46:25 Perhaps another question: I got the impression that upload bigger files seems a bit slow with hunchentoot. Is this the case and how could I cope with that? 14:47:29 robde [~robde@wlan-93-121.uni-koblenz.de] has joined #lisp 14:47:33 lars_t_h [~lars_t_h@002128200048.mbb.telenor.dk] has joined #lisp 14:48:49 peaces [~peaces@93-141-110-193.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 14:49:47 krrrcks: What I did is to use an external C program to upload files... 14:50:49 Kron_ [~Kron@129-97-120-133.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #lisp 14:51:09 zhangkaizhao [~zhangkaiz@27.47.21.159] has joined #lisp 14:52:33 krrrcks: I used CGIC, the CGI library for C, and wrote a little program to handle the upload request. 14:52:56 pjb: You have a website? 14:53:00 tritchey [~tritchey@12.236.109.2] has joined #lisp 14:53:04 Xach: Sure. 14:53:12 What does it do? 14:53:19 centipedefarmer [~centipede@75-162-51-42.desm.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 14:53:39 Well, this one is for a customer. It allows him to share (big) files. It's rather rudimentary, he doesn't use it often. 14:54:01 How sad people can't use ftp to upload files... 14:54:02 -!- robde [~robde@wlan-93-121.uni-koblenz.de] has quit [Quit: Gone.] 14:54:19 for most people ftp is too unusual ;) *G* 14:54:53 -!- peaces [~peaces@93-141-110-193.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 14:55:03 FTP is also terrible, I think you mean SSH ;) 14:55:38 Borbie: if they can't handle ftp, how could they handle key management for ssh? 14:55:41 What's wrong with Kermit? 14:55:50 Nothing, I like kermit. 14:55:58 It's one of the first programs I install on a new system. 14:56:11 pjb: well that's the sad part 14:56:24 -!- c_arenz [arenz@nat/ibm/x-ouecfriemahrhius] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:56:28 If you want them to use FTP you'll have to teach them how to use checksums too 14:56:32 what's sad is that we have HTTP PUT and next to nothing supports it out of the box. 14:56:53 araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has joined #lisp 14:56:53 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has quit [Changing host] 14:56:53 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 14:57:21 pjb: I just wrote a small "file share" thing for our customers as well. :) 14:57:54 There are public file share services. But of course, our point is privacy. 14:57:59 pnathan [~Adium@98.145.117.147] has joined #lisp 14:58:46 Same here. :) 14:59:44 Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@cambridge-vxty.basistech.com] has joined #lisp 14:59:49 I do not trust those public share services for material that is may be confidential or should be kept secret. :) 14:59:49 -!- bsamograd [~user@184.71.240.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:57 peaces [~peaces@93-141-110-193.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 15:00:06 -!- peaces [~peaces@93-141-110-193.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #lisp 15:00:08 But if my programming skills are worse enough the risk for the client is even higher ;) 15:04:18 The REST community seems to like PUT for idempotent operations. Do they use ajaxy calls to make web browsers use PUT? 15:04:59 -!- [SLB] [~balthasar@unaffiliated/slabua] has quit [Quit: [ Close the World, Open the nExt ]] 15:04:59 I do the PUT requests via some JS things. 15:05:03 tidux [~jon@c-24-61-183-110.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:05:40 I'm trying to configure StumpWM to use Mod4 instead of Ctrl for its commands 15:05:56 I know S-foo uses shift as a modifier 15:06:06 what's the lispy way of saying the equivalent of C 15:06:13 C's "Mod4mask" 15:06:16 ? 15:07:25 Blkt [~user@89-96-199-46.ip13.fastwebnet.it] has joined #lisp 15:08:06 tidux: i thought the lower-case s did that, but i may well be wrong 15:08:22 s-a for instance 15:09:41 -!- tritchey [~tritchey@12.236.109.2] has quit [Quit: tritchey] 15:12:44 tidux: could you confirm that that works, if it works? 15:12:56 tidux: if it doesn't, i'm likely wrong 15:17:53 -!- chrnybo [~user@148.122.202.244] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:19:27 c_arenz [arenz@nat/ibm/x-rsuubahsfvmyvmey] has joined #lisp 15:20:46 -!- _nix00 [~Adium@114.92.122.113] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:20:52 madnificent: alright, I'll check that out 15:21:16 -!- rudi [~rudi@1x-193-157-206-11.uio.no] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/] 15:21:16 dan64 [~dan64@c-71-206-193-42.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:21:38 -!- krrrcks [~user@mail.systemhaus-brunner.de] has quit [Quit: (save-lisp-and-die)] 15:22:06 -!- centipedefarmer [~centipede@75-162-51-42.desm.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:26:38 centipedefarmer [~centipede@75-162-51-42.desm.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 15:28:13 madnificent: yep, it works! 15:28:43 I always wondered why the stumpwm devs would use C-t as their default prefix when that messes up Emacs 15:30:04 tidux: great! 15:30:16 tidux: the super key isn't available on all keyboards 15:30:34 bsamograd [~user@184.71.240.90] has joined #lisp 15:30:34 like on the IBM model m 15:30:44 ah 15:30:47 tritchey [~tritchey@12.236.109.2] has joined #lisp 15:31:04 thanks for the help, guys 15:31:05 -!- tidux [~jon@c-24-61-183-110.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has left #lisp 15:31:22 -!- pnq [~nick@ACA26D81.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:35:49 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-139-212.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 15:36:12 madnificent: CLFSWM just set *root* onto some *current-root*, where (not (eq *root* *current-root*)) 15:36:26 -!- Borbie [~user@cmp-d-8k1gx2j.cmp.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:36:28 consequently I couldn't access the other frames anymore 15:37:21 mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #lisp 15:38:01 -!- kilon [~user@178.59.17.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:26 -!- xyxu [~xyxu@222.68.157.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:42:14 sipo [~user@static-72-74-85-37.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 15:42:41 -!- mcsontos [mcsontos@nat/redhat/x-gkoviijmiqrbyxzl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:42:50 Neronus: I guess C-S-f10 didn't work anymore either then? 15:47:49 Neronus: that's my panic panic button :) it's the expose mode 15:49:10 -!- kiuma [~kiuma@85-18-55-37.ip.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49:24 benny [~benny@i577A3CAD.versanet.de] has joined #lisp 15:52:17 RomyEatsDrupal [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 15:52:17 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0/20120104111456]] 15:54:34 ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #lisp 15:55:46 Well, I could've told him to reset. But I need to work now, so I rely on stumpwm for the time being 15:57:21 Neronus: understandable 15:57:35 Buglouse [~Buglouse@cpe-65-28-172-255.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 15:57:37 But I begin to like the idea 15:57:49 I have work-heaps, usually. 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It is share package, may be I shall remove it? 17:22:24 lapack, colnew, etc... 17:23:55 laczek [~laczek4@93.107.26.9] has joined #lisp 17:25:20 _0bitcount [~0bitcount@82.158.226.25.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lisp 17:26:03 icrazyhack [~horieyui@113.106.212.37] has joined #lisp 17:26:37 silver [~kingrat@178.121.37.179] has joined #lisp 17:26:40 and if it will be required for users, in next releases I put it back 17:30:56 shurane [~mortimer@65-86-91-130.client.dsl.net] has joined #lisp 17:31:36 Guthur [~user@host86-148-29-135.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 17:32:51 -!- REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:25 -!- sureaint [~mortimer@65-86-91-130.client.dsl.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:34:35 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #lisp 17:35:35 Cosman246 [~cosman246@D-173-250-158-199.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #lisp 17:36:44 -!- kisp11 [~kisp@g231208214.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:39:16 nha [~prefect@5-74.104-92.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #lisp 17:40:19 -!- mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:40:32 -!- laczek [~laczek4@93.107.26.9] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:40:46 Kron_ [~Kron@129-97-120-133.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #lisp 17:41:13 kilon [~kilon@athedsl-395283.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lisp 17:48:45 -!- dmiles_afk [~dmiles@dsl-72-19-50-021.cascadeaccess.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:48:47 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.177.10] has quit [Quit: Offline] 17:50:18 -!- pspace [~andrew@69.54.63.114] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:51:37 -!- Kenjin [~josesanto@bl6-188-65.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 17:54:23 bsamograd [~user@184.71.240.90] has joined #lisp 17:56:02 kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.177.10] has joined #lisp 17:57:52 -!- hakzsam [~hakzsam@aqu33-5-82-245-96-206.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:47 -!- Joreji [~thomas@vpn-ei1.unidsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:02:00 -!- MrBusiness [~MrBusines@75-163-225-197.clsp.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:02:17 Johannes` [~jal@andromeda.kiwilight.com] has joined #lisp 18:02:46 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.123.252.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:03:13 hello brethen, i am about to ask a horribly vague question that will hopefully be answered with a figurative pointer 18:03:19 what's the best CL implementation? 18:03:43 SBCL 18:03:47 First among equals. 18:04:11 Unless you want to make a windows GUI program. Then it's LispWorks. Except if you want a top flight graph database. Then it's AllegroCL. 18:04:19 Or maybe you want it to run on the JVM. Then it's ABCL. 18:04:33 Johannes`: unless you have some very specific needs, just pick one :p 18:04:35 Or Cocoa apps on Macs. Then it's ClozureCL. Maybe. 18:05:06 Johannes`: if you're just starting out in CL, what implementation you pick isn't going to make a huge difference to you 18:05:23 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.166.18] has joined #lisp 18:05:25 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-139-212.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 18:06:01 that's true, but sbcl is a common denominator, especially among the developers of open systems implemented in lisp. 18:06:08 so compatibility is better. 18:06:30 if you were to choose, say, ecl or abcl, there are third party systems that just won't work. 18:06:54 never choose gcl 18:06:59 rookie mistake 18:09:35 -!- kpal [~kpal@janus-nat-128-240-225-120.ncl.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:10:08 peearr [~aaron@159.153.4.51] has joined #lisp 18:10:49 ddp_ [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #lisp 18:11:19 -!- ddp [~ddp@anon-135-216.relakks.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:20 -!- ddp_ is now known as ddp 18:11:52 robde_ [~robde@p57902BC8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 18:13:02 -!- robde [~robde@p57903C80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:13:27 dmiles_afk [~dmiles@dsl-72-19-50-021.cascadeaccess.com] has joined #lisp 18:13:56 alrights, thanks, sbcl it is 18:14:08 -!- RomyEatsDrupal [~stickycak@cpe-69-203-115-155.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: RomyEatsDrupal] 18:14:17 MrBusiness [~MrBusines@75-163-245-119.clsp.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 18:14:50 s/ts/t/ 18:14:53 -!- centipedefarmer [~centipede@75-162-51-42.desm.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:15:02 *Xach* feels another gif screencast approaching 18:15:31 That said, I still feel clisp or ccl are better implementations for a newbie than sbcl... 18:15:49 clisp has nice repl out of the box 18:16:19 so does SLIME! 18:16:35 yeah, once you get SLIME running :) 18:16:44 it's not that bad 18:16:53 after that it's (by definition) Superior 18:17:11 I think there is plenty of basic .emacs setups for SLIME on the interwebs 18:17:17 I like having the history of error messages in the repl. Slime doesn't do that. 18:18:01 but you can use readline or rlwrap 18:18:19 daimrod: I'm refering to the fact that an error in slime produces no output in the repl. 18:18:35 pjb: incorrect 18:18:50 correct. You have to type B in sldb to put it into the repl. 18:18:52 quicklisp has a fast install for slime that is nice, it worked on my mac and linux 18:18:56 right, you've to check *inferior-lisp* 18:19:09 pjb: Still incorrect. 18:19:28 Is there a SLIME documentation for newbies like how to install Quicklisp, download its quicklisp-slime-helper and put minimum needed configuration to Emacs init file? (Not that I need. Would be useful for newbies.) 18:19:36 Xach: I still don't stand corrected. 18:19:45 Xach: try it: (/ 0) 18:19:52 then type q 18:19:53 ; Evaluation aborted on #. 18:20:13 dtw: I don't know of one. 18:20:28 realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has joined #lisp 18:20:49 CL-USER> (/ 0) 18:20:50 ; Evaluation aborted on #. 18:20:52 dtw: actually, I take it back. 18:21:01 dtw: there's something on mohiji.org 18:21:32 http://www.mohiji.org/2011/01/modern-common-lisp-on-linux/ for example 18:21:34 Xach: ok. But it's not useful (hence my recollection of nullity). I'd want a princ of the error message instead. 18:21:38 -!- saint_cypher [~rjspotter@c-76-126-70-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:21:42 sureaint [~mortimer@65-86-91-130.client.dsl.net] has joined #lisp 18:21:57 ok5016 [~digit@86.58.64.20] has joined #lisp 18:22:00 pjb: Next time write "no useful output" 18:22:09 -!- chenbing` [~user@122.233.179.32] has left #lisp 18:22:10 Xach, will look. I was thinking of having a ready-to-paste link to always give newbies. 18:22:43 Xach: next time I'll try to have an eidetic memory. 18:22:45 also, sbcl right now fails to start on linux hosts with pax turned on 18:22:58 -!- Cosman246 [~cosman246@D-173-250-158-199.dhcp4.washington.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:23:06 dtw: http://cliki.net/ 18:23:25 I've seen the barrier of "learn emacs" to be too high for newbies, so I have to agree with pjb 18:23:31 any good lisp would probably fail with pax, as would any jit, right? 18:23:38 clisp is actually a fairly good choice for learning the basics 18:23:47 (if they don't already use emacs) 18:23:49 -!- shurane [~mortimer@65-86-91-130.client.dsl.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:23:54 jasom: well, jvm doesn't, for example 18:23:57 dlowe: there is a good repl for sbcl if you don't like emacs 18:24:05 so "any jit" doesn't hold 18:24:21 Jasko: If I have to use rlwrap, it doesn't qualify 18:24:27 er, sorry Jasko 18:24:34 jasom: ^^ 18:25:05 dlowe: nope, let me check real quick what it's called 18:25:06 Xach, Thanks. That mohiji.org page has exactly the information I was thinking of. I bookmarked it so I can give it to newbies. 18:25:21 dtw: there are similar guides for windows & mac 18:25:24 same site 18:25:33 -!- ok5016 [~digit@86.58.64.20] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:25:42 dlowe: (ql:quickload :linedit) (linedit:install-repl) 18:25:53 people are already skeptical about lisp. ANY barrier, any at all, is going to keep some portion of them from even trying. 18:25:58 jasom: so not good enough 18:26:30 dlowe: adding 2 lines to your sbclrc is not good enough? really? 18:26:42 jasom: so you want someone to install sbcl, then scrounge around for quicklisp.lisp, then figure out how to run it in the first place 18:26:52 jasom: no, it's not. 18:26:56 Linux pax turns it into iOS. How charming. 18:27:02 not for human psychology 18:27:07 it should be in the default repl, already 18:27:26 Installing a recent version of sbcl is often harder than getting quicklisp working 18:27:30 quicklisp is probably one of the first things they should 'crounge'around for 18:27:40 'scrounge' 18:27:48 Guthur: they shouldn't have to scrounge for anything to get started 18:27:50 that's my point 18:27:52 mcsontos [~mcsontos@hotspot8.rywasoft.net] has joined #lisp 18:28:06 and don't actually think they do 18:28:13 quicklisp is super easy to get 18:28:21 You want to know why a shitty language like PHP got so popular, it's because they removed every barrier to adoption. 18:28:25 that's why I quoted scrounge 18:28:49 dlowe: PHP got so popular because people who have only ever done html can make a php script; getting php installed could be quite a pain 18:28:58 well if they can't download a file I think there is only going to problems 18:29:17 Guthur: that's the wrong angle to look at human factors 18:29:26 -!- Xach [~xach@pdpc/supporter/professional/xach] has left #lisp 18:29:27 configuring apache + php vs (ql:quickload :hunchentoot) (hunchentoot:server-start ...) 18:29:32 hmm maybe true for a special distribution already setup for learning... I at least remember one such lisp distribution, but forgot its name 18:29:39 lispinabox 18:29:43 ah, right 18:29:54 yeah, an updated lispinabox with quicklisp setup would be nice and would solve all these problems 18:30:03 some expert users might don't even want quicklisp, or asdf 18:30:15 seangrove [~user@c-71-202-126-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 18:30:56 phadthai: you mean some bi-polar lisp programmers with severe NIH syndrome 18:31:17 I think the previous lispinabox might have had emacs-itis 18:31:47 yeah, though it does have quicklisp now 18:31:50 on a slightly different topic, how stable is sbcl on windows these days? 18:31:51 so that's something 18:31:52 that's your opinion, it also could be someone working in an environment with restricted resources, security constraints, whatever 18:32:51 -!- madnificent [~madnifice@static.146.73.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has left #lisp 18:32:57 madnificent [~madnifice@static.146.73.9.176.clients.your-server.de] has joined #lisp 18:33:11 -!- zhangkaizhao [~zhangkaiz@27.47.21.159] has quit [Quit: ] 18:33:13 phadthai: well if they don't want asdf, then sbcl is out 18:33:31 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.177.10] has quit [Quit: Offline] 18:33:41 jdz [~jdz@host149-22-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 18:34:27 jasom: oh, and the people installing PHP weren't necessarily people writing the PHP 18:35:01 if you're on a mac, you can just get http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/clozure-cl/id489900618?ls=1&mt=12 18:35:07 anyone ever hacked clim to do redisplay from another thread than the one running the application frame? 18:35:10 dlowe: my point exactly, your PHP example was way off since the users of PHP didn't install it 18:36:06 jasom: it's not way off. If anything, it's more applicable 18:36:28 jasom: for most people, installing it wasn't a barrier to entry, either 18:36:45 okay, so we don't need to make lisp easy to install, we just need to install it everywhere 18:36:53 problem solved! 18:37:16 -!- bjonnh [~bjonnh@147.210.71.83] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:17 Yep. 18:37:25 heh. now that's how C and perl got popular 18:37:33 heh 18:37:40 and BASIC, for that matter 18:37:51 You can't beat BASIC: burnt in ROMs! 18:38:18 Let's burn Lisp in ROMs! 18:38:29 been done. There's one in the MIT museum now 18:38:37 "didn't work" 18:38:47 "didn't sell" 18:38:56 ooh, let's implement CPU microcode to allow us to run lisp on a 16-bit workstation, we can call it "Spice Lisp" 18:39:02 the world wasn't ready heh 18:39:54 ZabaQ [~Zaba@85-132-136-40-static.vivo.cz] has joined #lisp 18:40:19 jjkola [~jjkola@xdsl-83-150-83-66.nebulazone.fi] has joined #lisp 18:40:42 dlowe: what if there was a lispinabox that had emacs configured to behave like a more vanilla editor? Would that work? 18:40:52 jasom: No. 18:41:17 jasom: the problem is the the updating of the components in the box. There's already a Lisp In The Box, but it's outdated. 18:41:31 how about something with embedded graphics and ui like drscheme 18:41:39 http://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/ 18:41:40 pjb: quicklisp solves some of that 18:41:53 phadthai: same problem. 18:41:59 (a toy for learning, but with easier entry) 18:42:08 -!- BlastHardcheese [chris@pdpc/supporter/active/blasthardcheese] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42:11 dlowe: it doesn't update emacs or lisp though 18:42:24 I don't see the masses adopting DrScheme either :) 18:42:41 dlowe: me neither, except for learning 18:43:13 phadthai: ah the strategy that's made smalltalk the success it is today ;) 18:43:16 i.e. kids at school, with c.s. program including such 18:43:44 As a somewhat recent adopter of CL, the largest barrier to entry by far for me was ASDF 18:43:56 (Which is fixed by Quicklisp, thnkfully) 18:44:06 arnsholt: were you using emacs before? 18:44:10 BlastHardcheese [chris@pdpc/supporter/active/blasthardcheese] has joined #lisp 18:44:16 you mean asdf-install? what's wrong with asdf? 18:44:20 I don't use Emacs, actualy 18:44:27 emacs has been a barrier for me, as I was using vi and vim for other languages 18:44:47 kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.177.10] has joined #lisp 18:44:51 lispbox could work with quicklisp, no? it could download all it needs when it's installed the first time around 18:44:53 arnsholt: ASDF != ASDF-INSTALL. 18:44:53 dlowe: I had never used emacs, and it was not much of a barrier to me. It was no more of a barrier than Turbo Pascal's editor was to me learning pascal anyway 18:44:56 phadthai: why were you using vi? 18:44:58 oGMo: I simply couldn't figure out how to install packages (and still don't really understand how asdf is supposed to be used) 18:45:15 phadthai: it was one for me also, it could've been simpler. though i can't say that i thoroughly dislike the switch in the longer run. 18:45:17 arnsholt: why don't you read the asdf manual? 18:45:24 pjb: it was everywhere, fast, and the development process was non-interactive, so it was adequate 18:45:37 I tried reading the manual, but it wasn't exactly transparent how it worked 18:45:40 arnsholt: ASDF is a build system, nothing more, nothing less. If it has the path to the definition files, it can build and load it 18:45:41 jasom: comparing your experience to an early-90s piece of software is not helping your case :) 18:45:51 phadthai: emacs is also everywhere and fast. 18:45:53 dlowe: you mean late 80s :) 18:46:04 arnsholt: asdf is something like make, to put it poorly 18:46:07 arnsholt: you might have used wrong abstractions to read it, though. People often mistake ASDF with packaging system 18:46:07 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 18:46:08 jasom: same thing :p 18:46:18 arnsholt: (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op :system) ; what else do you need to know? 18:46:21 pjb: I don't agree 18:46:24 arnsholt: asdf says how projects are linked together and which files need to be loaded for those projects. it doesn't actually understand what's in there, nor does it manage the packages (with the symbols) or anything like that 18:46:29 dlowe: but in any event all IDEs have crappy editors... it doesn't stop people from using them, and PHP was developed in notepad so *shrug* 18:46:31 actually, (asdf:load-system ...) exists now 18:46:46 asdf:load-system, asdf:test-system, ... 18:46:48 pjb: maybe fast enough today, and easy to install as a package 18:46:52 pjb: Where to put stuff so that I can use it in other projects (beyond simply bundling whole dists in my project's code) 18:46:54 a lot less ugly 18:46:55 so, no need for the oos nonsense 18:47:07 phadthai: everywhere, I'm telling you! VERSION=23.3 ; wget ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-${VERSION}.tar.gz ; tar zxf emacs-${VERSION} ; cd emacs-${VERSION} ; ./configure && make && make install ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/ 18:47:17 heh 18:47:24 jasom: so, in order to succeed we must have a crappy editor also? and we mustn't have CLOS, we must have something more basic. and throw away the lambda functions while you're at it :) 18:47:26 arnsholt: these days you just plop a symlink into your quicklisp/local-projects directory 18:47:34 But p_l|brage's point is essentially what I hit. The "load this system" commands makes me pretty much expect a corresponding "install this system" thingy 18:47:35 arnsholt: in any directory that's in asdf:*central-registry* 18:48:13 madnificent: no I'm saying that lots of IDEs have been popular despite their editors, and EMACS is no more of a barrier. 18:48:15 arnsholt: installing stuff is separate. if you want something that works, just use quicklisp :) 18:48:24 arnsholt: do you expect ld.so and dload() to install shared libs from internet too? ;) 18:48:37 jasom: so you're saying that emacs is *not* a bad thing for newbies? 18:48:47 madnificent: Yeah, I've gone the QL route and my days of shouting at stuff are gone =) 18:48:48 madnificent: yep 18:48:55 Indeed, emacs is excelent for newbies. 18:49:04 p_l|brage: Well, to be honest dlopen don't compile my code either =) 18:49:07 They learn a good editor and a good programming language from the start. 18:49:21 madnificent: they are either a) using the terminal in which case they aren't a total newb, or b) use the mouse for everything which is just as easy in emacs as notepad 18:49:32 -!- _0bitcount [~0bitcount@82.158.226.25.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #lisp 18:50:00 also, these days, emacs comes with menu enabled by default 18:50:37 madnificent: the biggest barrier for me was figuring out C-g to get emacs to stop doing the wrong thing 18:50:42 jasom: actually, a tutorial which told you where to click in emacs could help lisp newbies. I found it to be a lot of work to learn both lisp and emacs at the same time, it it doesn't move as quickly as you'd want. you can't concentrate on the code, because you don't master the editor yet. perhaps not trying to convince people to use the shortcuts emacs provides isn't that bad. as long as they'll learn them in the long r 18:50:52 Xach? 18:51:19 madnificent: what editor were you coming from? 18:51:27 madnificent: "where to click in emacs"??? 18:51:28 hey at least asvil is asking a question :) 18:51:36 madnificent: I never click in emacs! 18:51:41 pjb: i know, it sounds silly when you know emacs, but it could've been more familiar 18:52:11 That's the big advantage, you can help users with just giving them textual instructions. 18:52:18 jasom: vim, actually. but still, you figure out the key commands in emacs and it's another thing that's in your head whilst you'd prefer to think only about lisp. 18:52:57 pjb: true, but seeing thiings makes it easier to remember what youhad to do, no matter how inefficient it is. for someone learning a fairly complex language at the same time, it may be better to focus on the language only 18:52:59 madnificent: yeah, if you are coming from a vi-like editor emacs is a pain, but we're talking about less advanced users, I think 18:53:17 madnificent: and random "popup" buffers occasionally messing up your layout you worked hard to setup :) 18:53:53 nachtwandler [~nachtwand@p57AD6ED8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 18:54:07 I still hate emacs compared to vim; I've got 100s of lines of elisp trying to make it more vimlike, but then it all fails when I have to use it in a terminal (damn you escape/meta confusion!) 18:54:35 :D 18:54:36 phadthai: The minibuffer was the most frequent victim of my rage for that. "Where are my keystrokes going?!" 18:54:38 phadthai: that still gets me, the popups 18:54:40 when first starting around with emacs, it's all wizardry. even entering M-x slime is something which you don't actually understand. soon enough you'll realize what M-x actually does and then it'll seem like the most obvious thing in the world. but in the meantime, you shouldn't be thinking about that. 18:54:49 jasom: just use vim and slimv... 18:55:15 oGMo: I seem to be able to reproduce that memory fault now 18:55:37 flip214: I'll look at that again. It really sucked last time I checked it out; I have a half-finished vim to slime bindings that I wrote in 2 days that worked better. I was going to release it, but then I realized I can't due to my employment contract :( 18:56:00 slimv is developed on windows, so it even works there (and I make sure that the linux side runs) 18:56:07 when was that? 18:56:24 it got really nice... 18:56:29 flip214: did they finally drop the "lets run a repl in a terminal and communicate with it directly" in favor of using swank? 18:56:58 b/c that was a huge source of issues for me, I didn't have sldb and swank stuff I was used to 18:57:00 -!- add^_ [~add^_^@m212-152-13-121.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: add^_] 18:57:26 sixpoint8 [~jaykub@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #lisp 18:57:39 -!- sixpoint8 [~jaykub@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57:40 flip214: hmm it was 2008 or '09 I think? 18:57:41 fe[nl]ix: it goes away if you recompile %allocate-static-vector (the function, not compiler-macro) after loading, and breaks again next load. boggles me but i'm not that familiar with sbcl internals 18:57:57 sixpoint8 [~jaykub@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #lisp 18:58:49 fe[nl]ix: if i didn't mention, the (length *sv*) is garbage at first, and the memory fault is in the pretty printer as a result 18:59:08 Hyper key on keyboard makes me lazy, I haven't used M-x in ages ^^; 18:59:39 sipo: yes it seems to be a long standing issue... fortunately it's not too hard for intermediate users to have custom functions to restore their layout in their .emacs 19:00:08 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.177.10] has quit [Quit: Offline] 19:04:53 realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has joined #lisp 19:07:36 -!- seangrove [~user@c-71-202-126-17.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 19:08:59 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:09:31 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 19:09:34 jasom: yeah, that was long ago. nowadays slimv uses swank, has good support for the sldb and inspect, and just _works_. 19:09:42 try it, you'll like it! 19:11:41 dnjaramba [~dnjaramba@41.72.193.86] has joined #lisp 19:12:30 tensorpudding [~michael@99.148.193.184] has joined #lisp 19:13:11 phadthai: i am slowly getting there and really, only lately have i started spending much more time in emacs and i am taking the approach of focusing on learning the language so learning things like using the debugger and the code inspector, are much higher on the list 19:14:23 but yeah, emacs does still kick my butt regularly 19:15:13 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:15:22 -!- ngz [~user@23.78.199.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:58 ngz [~user@23.78.199.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 19:16:47 i'm asking again of the clim stuff. has someone made clim application redisplay a pane from another thread? 19:17:08 kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.212.76] has joined #lisp 19:18:13 guaqua: is it possible to send a inter-thread message to the main thread from another one, so that the main thread can do the update? That's an approach that's used on some other environments; I have no experience with clim personally 19:18:39 i actually just found an example doing some sort of inter-thread communication. 19:19:12 i've done gui programming with java's swing toolkit. with swing you use a special swingutilities.executeinuithread to do this 19:19:30 in general using a dedicated thread for the ui is the way, as you noted 19:21:49 ChibaPet [~ChibaPet@fsf/member/chibapet] has joined #lisp 19:22:02 guaqua: you're ahead of me since I've never gotten a clim demo to run without crashing 19:22:25 *knowonwood* 19:22:33 *knock, argh 19:25:11 realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has joined #lisp 19:27:22 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has quit [Client Quit] 19:27:29 -!- Kron_ [~Kron@129-97-120-133.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Quit: Kron awayyy!] 19:30:05 gniourf_gniourf [~Gniourf@vil69-1-82-67-51-185.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lisp 19:30:38 -!- sureaint [~mortimer@65-86-91-130.client.dsl.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31:43 Flatlander [~tomppa@b27.kiulu.jyu.fi] has joined #lisp 19:31:45 What is the status of vectorization support in SBCL? 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If you aren't allowed forward references that's kind of a problem for factoring things. 20:33:05 jjkola: make sure to compile-file. 20:33:26 -!- Fade [~fade@outrider.deepsky.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:31 Fade [~fade@outrider.deepsky.com] has joined #lisp 20:33:56 gigamonkey: that's true 20:35:16 -!- gaidal [~gaidal@58.62.240.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:35:19 pkhuong: ok, that makes sense 20:35:36 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:36:16 -!- schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:37:47 gaidal [~gaidal@58.62.240.247] has joined #lisp 20:39:07 Jovlang [~user@cm-84.209.27.113.getinternet.no] has joined #lisp 20:40:36 Kron_ [~Kron@199.66.88.9] has joined #lisp 20:40:43 tyson1 [~Ian@76-10-173-74.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 20:40:56 -!- tyson1 [~Ian@76-10-173-74.dsl.teksavvy.com] has left #lisp 20:45:47 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-3-63.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has 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