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last parenthesis of (cond ")" is for the defun body 11:46:50 No. 11:46:56 It's for cond. 11:47:19 because of implicit progn ? 11:47:33 antgreen [~AndChat@bas3-toronto06-2925097352.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lisp 11:47:42 Well, no -- it's because the cond form is (cond) here. 11:47:47 The ()'s are part of that. 11:48:25 so we can say (defun test()(cond)(print "test")) 11:48:37 If you like. 11:49:36 thanks 11:51:05 pnq [~nick@ACA26551.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 11:54:43 Xach [~xach@pdpc/supporter/professional/xach] has joined #lisp 11:56:23 rme [~rme@50.43.148.161] has joined #lisp 11:57:02 MimiEA [~Mimi@97-88-6-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #lisp 11:57:35 -!- MimiEA [~Mimi@97-88-6-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:24 -!- Guest63355 [~taiyal@bb-216-195-184-102.gwi.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:03:01 Iceland_jack [~baldur@earth.sudo.is] has joined #lisp 12:03:14 pizzledizzle 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[~jesus@h081217131002.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:20:07 i would know when to use array and when lists are good 12:20:12 do you have some general advice? 12:20:35 because i feel pretty confortable with array, but maybe sometimes lists are better 12:20:47 -!- drake01 [~drake01@115.246.128.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:20:58 Arrays have random access. 12:21:04 Lists are recursively decomposable. 12:21:32 alama [~jessealam@ant134.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 12:21:35 array have random access? 12:23:08 -!- Night-hacks [~nullpoint@95.38.52.69] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:23:18 Guest63355 [~taiyal@bb-216-195-184-102.gwi.net] has joined #lisp 12:24:16 vaaal: yea. what's the question there? 12:26:12 insomnia1alt [~milan@port-92-204-52-33.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #lisp 12:26:12 -!- insomnia1alt [~milan@port-92-204-52-33.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Changing host] 12:26:12 insomnia1alt [~milan@unaffiliated/iammilan] has joined #lisp 12:26:25 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(error "no")) are failing me somehow 12:28:06 when i evaluate this, instead of seeing "hi", i just get that error ("no") 12:29:50 alama, your handler can't return anything. 12:29:51 -!- insomniaSalt [~milan@unaffiliated/iammilan] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:29:51 -!- insomnia1alt is now known as insomniaSalt 12:30:06 alama: it should be coded like this: 12:30:44 (block (handler-bind ((error #'(lambda (c) (return "hi!"))) (error "no"))) 12:31:01 then you will see the return value of "hi!" 12:31:19 handlers "claim" the exception by not returning normally from the handler. 12:32:12 ah, ok 12:32:31 does it work? 12:32:35 my code wasn't tested. 12:34:32 nonduality [~alex@chello084114039189.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #lisp 12:35:10 ehu, how can one claim a warning? 12:35:24 weirdo: same way. 12:35:57 weirdo: but the difference between error and signal is that 12:36:15 signal continues processing after all handlers return, 12:36:17 hmm, but HANDLER-CASE behaves more like how i expect 12:36:20 while ERROR does not. 12:36:35 (handler-case (error "error") (error () "hi")) 12:36:41 this gives me "hi", as i expect 12:36:46 HANDLER-CASE is implemented like the code above on top of HANDLER-BIND. 12:37:29 ehu, it doesn't make sense to me. warnings aren't supposed to be unwound, i think? 12:37:34 HANDLER-BIND should be used for complex error handling, while HANDLER-CASE is for the simple case. 12:37:59 ehu: thanks, i'll do that 12:39:09 alama: welcome. 12:39:40 weirdo: ok. I'll need to check on that. Maybe you're not supposed to claim a warning then. 12:40:09 -!- homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-152-101.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 12:40:18 ehu, it would be helpful, as i need to write condition code in the lisp compiler i'm writing 12:41:20 weirdo: If the handler declines, the search continues for another handler. 12:41:27 http://clhs.lisp.se/Body/m_handle.htm 12:41:29 says that 12:41:40 decline v. (of a handler) to return normally without having handled the condition being signaled, permitting the signaling process to continue as if the handler had not been present. 12:41:45 is the definition of declining. 12:41:56 ehu, so all handlers for warnings get processed? 12:42:05 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-152-101.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 12:42:43 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:42:54 weirdo: that, or any of them can call the muffle-warning restart. 12:43:18 oh. not call; invoke. 12:43:39 invoking that warning will not return normally from the handler. 12:43:46 invoking that restart* 12:44:04 and thus prevent further handlers to see it. 12:44:23 thank you. 12:44:46 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 12:45:57 restarts, another thing to implement 12:45:59 oh, bother 12:46:17 fortunately, gigamonkey's book explains them as well as his google talk 12:47:41 too bad i need an object system and type designators first :-( 12:48:10 -!- pnq [~nick@ACA26551.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:49:22 -!- nonduality [~alex@chello084114039189.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: nonduality] 12:50:33 weirdo: implementing a CL is a sizable effort. 12:50:41 i'm actually writing Scheme 12:50:51 but it'll have plenty of CL features 12:50:55 does that have restarts and conditions? 12:50:58 ah. 12:50:59 ok. 12:51:13 srfi has primitive exception handling 12:51:22 You might consider how these fit into a continuation based system. 12:51:23 well, scheme could implement most of this with call/cc, I'd expect. 12:51:43 what he says. 12:51:48 Dynamic exent and continuations are not good friends. 12:51:54 Zhivago, dynamic-wind? 12:51:56 er, extent. 12:52:03 Well, that's one approach. 12:52:09 *weirdo* already has that implemented 12:52:17 But it is something that you'd want to carefully consider. 12:52:29 i don't have threads either, since the target is javascript 12:52:36 nicdev_ [~nicdev@209-6-50-99.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #lisp 12:52:51 so it can all play nicely 12:52:51 So, do you want first class continuations? 12:52:55 yes 12:53:07 have them already 12:53:16 full continuations, not delimited 12:53:19 -!- alama [~jessealam@ant134.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:53:34 i jump to toplevel when the stack is about to run out 12:54:12 How do you predict that? 12:54:42 i recurse infinitely to see how many frames there can be 12:54:52 as a first thing to do in the code 12:55:09 the target is javascript, btw 12:55:54 http://epicsol.org/~sthalik/jscheme.scm 12:55:58 if you want to hack on it 12:57:46 it's not yet self-hosting, but on the way to be 12:57:50 just need more library features 12:58:01 and library abstraction itself 12:58:20 I don't see the point of self hosting. 12:58:53 perhaps at least to prove the design's robustness 12:59:04 or to serve as a REPL 12:59:33 madnificent [~madnifice@83.101.62.132] has joined #lisp 12:59:43 self-hosting is more of a point when you consider server-side implementations. 13:01:40 the thing is, r5rs doesn't have non-hygienic macros or reader macros (i think) so i need it to write more abstract code 13:01:47 -!- mathrick [~mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:01:55 phadthai: sorry, my connection went down soon after you replied. could you elaborate on the asdf build target? can I tell ecl to compile whatever it needs to run a certain asdf library? 13:02:08 'morning 13:02:14 hello Fade 13:02:20 drake01 [~drake01@115.246.170.107] has joined #lisp 13:02:27 weirdo: why not R6RS? 13:04:42 zmv, because it's hard to come up with an index that big 13:05:13 oic 13:05:31 madnificent: I've not used it myself, as I use custom build scripts for custom software without much external dependencies (other than C), but here's an example from a mailing list post: (asdf:make-build :cffi-test :type :lib :monolithic t :move-here 13:05:35 "/Users/simon/cffi-test/" :ld-flags '("-lm")) 13:07:46 agspathis [~user@ppp-94-64-128-184.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lisp 13:08:26 madnificent: http://ecls.sourceforge.net/new-manual/re03.html 13:09:54 -!- drake01 [~drake01@115.246.170.107] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:10:37 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-121.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:10:49 mathrick [~mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk] has joined #lisp 13:10:58 -!- sanjoyd [~sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:11:12 genieliu [~genieliu@59.78.62.120] has joined #lisp 13:11:36 phadthai: thanks,! 13:12:25 -!- ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:13:08 Jasko2 [~tjasko@c-174-59-204-245.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 13:13:34 phadthai: I should try that :) 13:14:20 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-121.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 13:17:20 madnificent: you're welcome; if the documentation is lacking or you don't manage to get it to work, I then recommend ecls-list@lists.sourceforge.net of course :) 13:18:08 there regularily are related questions too so the archives might help 13:20:28 -!- rme [rme@4A87B2C9.78A1BA07.699BA7A6.IP] has quit [Quit: rme] 13:20:28 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.148.161] has quit [Quit: rme] 13:21:01 phadthai: i'm waiting for ecl to get more mature before i start nagging on the ml. i think the devs have more important things to take care of. it's something i look at from time to time though. 13:30:33 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-121.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:31:55 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-121.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 13:39:48 LakatosI [53a6d29d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.166.210.157] has joined #lisp 13:39:58 How's it going 13:41:00 -!- samebchase [samuel@pi.nipl.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:41:11 -!- Joreji [~thomas@83-096.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:41:23 What's the easiest way to create GUIs for lisp applications? 13:42:15 .. 13:42:21 I looked around a bit, and Garet seamed like the only friendly solution 13:42:39 nilduality [~alex@chello084114039189.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #lisp 13:42:40 tried cells-gtk, but it crashed on em 13:42:41 me 13:42:44 samebchase [samuel@pi.nipl.net] has joined #lisp 13:42:47 -!- Organometallica [~Jeremy@216.171.8.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:42:51 Jeremy_ [~Jeremy@host-8-174.ilcu3rd.clients.pavlovmedia.com] has joined #lisp 13:43:17 -!- Jeremy_ is now known as Guest86678 13:44:16 What I used to do in the past was to make a self-contained webapplication 13:44:59 But I think once others start using my program they might find it anoying to open up a browser and type in localhost:3000 to use my programs :P 13:46:02 Use chrome. 13:46:22 LakatosI: I found cl-tk to be the simplest way for some basic gui needs. but i don't know how it'd turn out for more complex things 13:46:28 It can be deployed to present itself like a desktop application. 13:46:28 Zhivago: Care to elaborate? 13:46:46 chrome is the win 13:46:52 it compiles js to native 13:47:59 it compiles js for the GPU 13:48:18 Firefox and IE are doing now the same thing 13:48:28 foocraft_ [~ewanas@78.101.28.62] has joined #lisp 13:48:30 phadthai: could you tell me how i should launch ecl (which options) and which list i should provide to :ld-flags to make ecl build an asdf system and look in /lib for the .so files? 13:49:42 LakatosI: the problem didn't seem to be that the libraries didn't work, but that they didn't behave lispy. i should take a thorough look at clim to see if that's the holy grail for more complex gui needs. 13:50:02 clim? I'll look into it 13:52:48 -!- nicdev_ [~nicdev@209-6-50-99.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: nicdev_] 13:53:00 Personally, I think that you'd be foolish to stop using http without extreme provocation, but clim is worth understanding. 13:54:59 Zhivago: why add an extra layer of communication/parsing when it doesn't lead to more abstraction? using http greatly depends on your needs. 13:55:24 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #lisp 13:55:27 Hi everyone! Can someone please help me with this: http://paste.lisp.org/+2NF7 13:55:43 the macro test works 13:55:44 well, the nice thing about http is that you can host your application on a remote server and be able to access it from wherever you are 13:56:05 madnificent: http5 is pretty much what X11 ought to have been. 13:56:26 I'm not able to get test-2 to work. 13:56:30 madnificent: And it's used by pretty much everything. 13:57:00 Zhivago: and still, it doesn't matter. is there a library in common lisp which abstracts everything you need in order to draw in http5? i don't think so... and that's the point if you don't need an http interface for other reasons 13:57:40 madnificent: Why would you want to abstract everything? 13:58:27 I'm confused. What's http5? 13:58:34 *zfx-* feels like a luddite, being only on http 1.1 13:58:41 Are you guys talking about html5? 13:58:42 html5. 13:58:53 -!- zfx- is now known as zfx 13:58:54 -!- zfx [~zfx@host86-145-64-98.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 13:58:54 zfx [~zfx@unaffiliated/zfx] has joined #lisp 13:59:00 madnificent: Well, you have to remmeber that html5 is still pretty new 13:59:07 samebchase: try with (first ,x) instead of ,(first x) does that work? 13:59:39 There really hasn't been a need for such an abstraction 13:59:41 yet 13:59:54 LakatosI: wait, I'm _not_ the one trying to argue that we should bolt the web onto everything and anything we do. it may be smart in many cases, but it seems extremely odd to advise it for anything and everything. 13:59:54 But I'm sure it's coming... 13:59:58 carlocci [~nes@93.37.208.251] has joined #lisp 14:00:26 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-035-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:00:27 madnificent: Yeah, I know. I'm of the same opinion 14:00:58 if you need to build an application _now_ then you need to look at what's available at this point in time. not in 3 years. it would certainly be nice if good abstractions would exist to generate rich GUI's from lisp which render in html5 14:01:07 Here are the questions to ask: (a) do you want to be able to use it from your telephone? (b) do you want to be able to use it from your tv? (c) do you want to be able to use it from the desktop? (d) do you want to be able to use it remotely? 14:01:25 html5 already supports rich GUIs. 14:01:33 Zhivago: in which (a) (b) (d) mean hte same thing 14:01:50 But when we're using "ancient" technologies, with not that well documented libraries for GUI creation, html5 sure seems like a safe bet :) 14:01:54 madnificent: that expands to (:P (FIRST MESSAGE)) 14:01:54 Not -- you could be really stupid and write 17 different apps. 14:02:10 Zhivago: in the sense that you either want to run it locally, or remotely and locally. and then you want to hope that HTML5 looks remotely similar on all platforms (because it doesn't) and that support is remotely similar (it isn't) 14:02:12 Given websockets you can drive html5 like X11. 14:02:23 Listen to events and then rewrite the page on the fly. 14:02:27 madnificent: and

in the generated html 14:02:56 -!- MimiEA [~Mimi@97-88-6-2.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:02:57 The nice things about html is that it's gotten many people past the "look the same everywhere" fetish. 14:03:22 Zhivago: On the contary 14:03:30 HTML should look the same everywhere 14:03:36 Where does it say that? 14:03:44 samebchase: /me should know something about cl-who in order to really help. sorry 14:03:54 it has led people into the gradients everywhere fetish instead. 14:03:56 the W3C is so vehement on this that it kills a kitten eveytime they see a pixel difference 14:04:13 -!- cyrillos [~cyrill@188.134.33.130] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:04:14 madnificent: no problem, thanks! 14:04:19 lakotosI: You must be from an alternate reality. 14:04:47 A HTML document is supposed to be rendered the same no matter what browser or platform you are using 14:04:55 Zhivago: i think i may be in his reality :) it's a standard... and it's often implemented imperfectly 14:04:59 samebchase: in test-2, the value of X is the symbol MESSAGE. 14:05:04 lakatosi: That's complete nonsense. 14:05:11 samebchase: the function FIRST works on lists. 14:05:47 LakatosI, all they say is that the implementations must conform to the box model as specified, which is as much look the same everywhere as 1 centimetre must be the same everywhere is, surely. 14:05:48 Zhivago: You can stylize different html documents, to look different 14:05:51 Please discuss HTML standards and behaviors somewhere else. 14:06:00 -!- Guest86678 [~Jeremy@host-8-174.ilcu3rd.clients.pavlovmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:06:04 Xach: Sorry 14:06:08 Zhivago, LakatosI: you're both talking about a different thing. the W3C wants things to look differently on different displays/machines. however, for the same display/machine, multiple implementations should look the same (and they don't) 14:06:16 yeah sorry 14:06:29 madnificent: That's also untrue. 14:06:49 It should look however the browser wants it to look within the constraints imposed upon it and its capabilities. 14:06:57 Thus textual browsers, and so on. 14:06:59 anyway, I thought that was determined by CSS, not HTML. 14:07:44 Guys, we should cut it out... Xach is going to garbage collect us if we don't behave 14:07:46 Xach: how do I get the macro to take a list as an argument so that I can access elements of the list? 14:07:55 samebchase: pass it a list. 14:07:56 Yeah, I admit I was kinda wrong 14:08:08 samebchase: (test-2 (foo bar baz)) would be one way to do that. 14:08:11 CSS is supposed to specify these things 14:08:21 HTML is only to markup a document 14:08:35 samebchase: you could also use a plain function 14:08:44 samebchase: in that case, you'd need (:p (str (first list))) 14:09:16 cl-who's evaluation rules mean that simply having an object occur in the "content" part of a tag won't do anything...it has to either write to the output stream to have an effect, or you have to wrap it in the semantic marker STR. 14:10:05 Xach: I'll try that... 14:10:37 samebchase: see http://weitz.de/cl-who/ under Syntax and Semantics. It's pretty straightforward, but you have to learn it, not guess. 14:11:07 Xach: woah. It works! 14:11:13 Xach: thanks 14:13:08 rme [~rme@50.43.135.213] has joined #lisp 14:14:41 the moment when surprise is surprising. 14:15:56 -!- rme [rme@7B7C8AC4.80B03224.699BA7A6.IP] has quit [Ping timeout] 14:17:02 urandom__ [~user@p548A51DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 14:17:04 rme_ [~rme@50.43.135.8] has joined #lisp 14:17:45 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.135.213] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:17:45 -!- rme_ is now known as rme 14:19:52 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-72-228-177-92.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 14:21:17 fgump [~fgump__@188.74.82.177] has joined #lisp 14:23:00 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c2023.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 14:23:15 -!- juniorroy [~juniorroy@212.36.228.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:28:15 -!- fgump [~fgump__@188.74.82.177] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:28:34 Anyone have an opinion about the quality of today's SLIME release? 14:29:48 i've been off the slime cvs roller coaster since quicklisp integrated quicklisp-slime-helper. 14:30:06 Xach: no, but i could take a look 14:30:13 Fade: how does that work? 14:30:16 Same here. So I tremble with fear whenever I update quicklisp's slime. What if it's totally bogus? 14:30:26 normally it is ok. 14:30:29 it's a pretty good question. 14:31:03 prxq: you quickload :quicklisp-slime-helper, and point your .emacs at the appropriate place. 14:31:17 i haven't stumbled upon a slime bug for a long time. I updated it a few weeks ago. 14:31:37 *Xach* rolls dice, hopes for lucky results 14:33:39 I updated on the 11. of june, had no problems so far. 14:33:49 *prxq* updates again 14:38:13 pnq [~nick@AC8508F6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 14:39:09 dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.70.89] has joined #lisp 14:40:28 vaal349 [~vaal@host36-7-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 14:40:31 hi 14:40:37 who could please explain what asdf is? 14:41:01 google 14:41:29 i've seen it 14:41:33 vaal349: Think of it as a "make" for Common Lisp. 14:41:50 i would know: it's already install in my lisp enviroment or not? I've emacs+slime+ccl 14:41:55 *JuanDaugherty* senses something wrong about Xach's relying on ql. 14:42:01 and how i should use it? 14:42:05 vaal349: it comes with clozure cl 14:42:35 vaal349: it's a way to organize the sources of individual projects, and to express relationships between projects (e.g. "to load project X, first load project Y") 14:42:45 -!- setmeaway [stemearay@183.106.96.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:42:49 ah 14:42:52 good 14:43:04 it's used also for load programs? 14:43:09 I wrote a little bit about how I use it here: http://xach.livejournal.com/278047.html 14:43:25 vaal349: it takes care of compiling and loading your source files and the things they require. 14:43:34 vaal349: it is what is usually used to load programs 14:43:37 fgump [~fgump__@openvpn-124-140.inf.ed.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 14:43:44 thank you xach, i read it right now 14:44:02 -!- fgump [~fgump__@openvpn-124-140.inf.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44:10 fgump [~fgump__@openvpn-124-140.inf.ed.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 14:44:14 Quicklisp do the same thing, more of less, of asdf? 14:44:48 vaal349: No. Quicklisp downloads projects from the internet in an automatic way, and it uses ASDF to load them. 14:45:12 ok 14:45:20 -!- fgump [~fgump__@openvpn-124-140.inf.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:21 -!- alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@90.166.231.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:45:26 It can also load local projects, also using ASDF. 14:45:28 fgump [~fgump__@openvpn-124-140.inf.ed.ac.uk] has joined #lisp 14:46:36 -!- lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:47:48 xach, i see that you often use #: 14:47:53 what it means? :-\ 14:48:04 like here: (defpackage #:stumpgrinder 14:48:24 zomgbie [~jesus@h081217131002.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #lisp 14:48:32 vaal349: That notation is used to created an uninterned symbol. 14:48:49 vaal349: it's the syntax for a symbol that is not interned in a package. i use it sometimes in places where a symbol is used only for the string it designates. 14:49:08 ok clear, didn't know 14:49:09 vaal349: other people use keyword symbols for that, or plain old interned symbols, or strings. 14:49:49 -!- Evanescence [~chris@122.237.5.55] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 14:50:20 alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@90.166.231.220] has joined #lisp 14:51:28 vaal349: you can use l1sp.org to find documentation about weird symbols :) 14:51:39 ah ok! Thank yoU! ^^ 14:51:46 -!- pnq [~nick@AC8508F6.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:52:20 i should put a (load "quicklisp.lisp") into my .emacs file? 14:52:35 no, that won't work 14:52:44 ok 14:53:10 (ql:add-to-init-file) <---this way will work? 14:53:19 when you install quicklisp it should tell you what to type in so it loads automatically 14:53:26 vaal349: yes. 14:53:26 yeah 14:53:31 : ) 14:54:16 after that i can delete the quicklisp.lisp file? 14:54:21 Yes. 14:54:23 yep 14:54:27 It's used only for the initial installation. 14:54:38 You can keep it if you want to reinstall some other time. 14:55:25 would you explain me how it works?: i should thank you every time you reply me? 14:55:32 How do you guys use to do? 14:55:59 what did we do in the past? 14:56:09 before quikclisp? 14:56:16 nop 14:56:21 nevermind ^^ 14:56:29 I also accept money 14:56:56 Quicklisp users are sending me to Amsterdam to talk about Quicklisp. 14:57:01 *sykopomp* prefers to not think about the days before quicklisp. 14:57:05 there was a lot of wget and tar involved in the past. 14:57:17 asdf-installery, clbuildery, jiggery-pokery 14:57:22 well, there was asdfinstall 14:57:37 i've just installed quicklisp, so now i've a lot of library? 14:57:49 not yet 14:57:57 mm 14:58:00 :D 14:58:06 It's still on the internet 14:58:18 couldn't i install the library with (load "name.lisp")? 14:58:31 maybe this is a stupid question :_\ 14:58:31 :-\ 14:58:39 quicklisp will download the libraries, and load them automatically 14:58:43 vaal349: libraries are usually organized into multiple source files. 14:58:47 -!- zomgbie [~jesus@h081217131002.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:58:49 ah 14:58:51 ok xach 14:58:51 vaal349: (ql:quickload '("lib-1" "lib-2")) 14:58:52 vaal349: interesting libraries often have relationships with other libraries. 14:59:09 ooook 14:59:26 i would try to download a library 14:59:37 Do you use Windows? 14:59:40 yes 14:59:46 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159933.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:59:49 What CL implementation? 14:59:53 ccl 14:59:57 alama [~jessealam@gcp206.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 15:00:05 Try (push :hunchentoot-no-ssl *features*) first 15:00:19 -!- alama [~jessealam@gcp206.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 15:00:28 Then do (ql:quickload "hunchentoot") 15:00:35 Then (hunchentoot:start (make-instance 'hunchentoot:acceptor :port 4242)) 15:00:45 Presto! A web server written in lisp running on your computer! 15:00:50 alama [~jessealam@dm230.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 15:00:53 mmm 15:00:56 vaal349: you should realy read the documentation :p http://xach.livejournal.com/278047.html + http://www.quicklisp.org/beta/ 15:01:03 i will :-) 15:01:24 so quicklisp directly download the library? 15:01:27 vaal349: yes. 15:01:29 and loads it 15:01:31 and everything it requires. 15:01:34 i thought i should download for it 15:01:36 really good 15:01:54 what is this hunchentoot, xach? 15:01:59 vaal349: a web server 15:02:19 could be useful to me? 15:02:30 Maybe. It's an example thing you can load. 15:02:51 A simpler example is (ql:quickload "vecto"). That loads a library that can draw stuff into PNG files. 15:03:04 I use both at http://wigflip.com/ to make graphical amusements in Common Lisp. 15:03:26 xach, i was just looking for something like that 15:03:27 wigflip funds subsidize quicklisp. 15:03:34 it would do also charts? 15:03:42 there are libraries for drawing charts. 15:03:45 yes 15:03:46 i've one 15:03:47 wait... 15:03:58 http://common-lisp.net/project/adw-charting/#sec-3.1 <- 15:04:24 how could i install it with quicklisp? 15:04:51 (ql:quickload "adw-charting") 15:05:20 are you sure it's in the quickload libraries? 15:05:34 If you're not sure, try (ql:system-apropos "adw-charting") 15:05:37 I am sure. 15:05:38 my question is: why are you sure? Where is the list of librrary? 15:05:39 ok 15:05:43 ^^ 15:05:50 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-121.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:06:00 I am sure because I remember adding it to Quicklisp. (That's not the case for all Quicklisp libraries.) 15:06:02 vaal349: (ql:system-apropos "adw") 15:06:20 => # 15:06:26 along with two others. 15:06:54 and there is a way i can have an instant documentation of quickload libraRY? 15:07:05 like a c-c c-d h with chls 15:07:15 *clhs 15:07:36 vaal349: not yet. i'm working on that. 15:07:46 woha. 15:07:59 you developped quicklisp? 15:08:02 yes. 15:08:13 :-O 15:08:41 awesome 15:09:12 lol 15:09:47 why do you lol? It's not true? 15:09:49 -!- symbole [~user@ool-4a5a4bdd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:56 vaal349: It is. 15:10:06 goo 15:10:06 d 15:12:10 pnq [~nick@AC82B9F1.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 15:12:59 -!- nilduality [~alex@chello084114039189.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: nilduality] 15:13:16 lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has joined #lisp 15:13:23 -!- Guest63355 is now known as taiyal 15:14:07 strange, adw chart still doens't work... 15:14:10 morphism [~Nevermind@123.16.109.146] has joined #lisp 15:14:19 Undefined function :PIE called with arguments (300 200) . 15:14:49 vaal349: seems like you didn't use it right. 15:15:08 i've just copy and paste the example on the main page 15:15:23 http://common-lisp.net/project/adw-charting/#sec-3.1 <-here, the pie chart 15:15:27 You can't copy and paste without understanding the context. 15:15:47 :-\ i just would try if it works.. 15:16:02 A simple way to get further is (use-package 'adw-charting) 15:16:20 then try the example again. 15:16:20 aaaah 15:16:23 i've understand now 15:16:31 Not likely! 15:16:33 it will wark also with 15:16:37 -!- pnq [~nick@AC82B9F1.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:16:41 (with-chart (adw-charting_pie blalba) 15:16:42 right? 15:16:44 ops 15:16:47 adwcharting:pie 15:16:54 adw-charting:pie : D 15:16:58 right? 15:17:17 vaal349: http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ 15:17:33 -.- 15:19:08 Using # in # 15:19:17 would cause name conflicts with symbols already present in that package: 15:19:18 -.- 15:19:22 :-\ 15:19:40 your adventures with lisp will be much less frustrating if you understand the basic fundimentals of the language. 15:19:46 vaal349: no offense, but it seems like you lack the basic understanding of package. pcl is a good book. 15:20:28 what delta do you use for adw-charting? 15:20:36 i once tried a sine and it was all messy 15:20:49 idk what delta is 15:20:54 an epsilon 15:21:05 s/tried a sine/tried plotting a sine/ 15:25:25 Modius_ [~Modius@cpe-70-123-140-183.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 15:26:00 -!- Modius [~Modius@cpe-70-123-140-183.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:27:07 -!- vaal349 [~vaal@host36-7-dynamic.33-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:30:24 vaaal [~vaaal@host225-9-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 15:30:27 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@ANantes-151-1-35-40.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:31:58 -!- lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:37:20 ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 15:37:23 pnq [~nick@AC813CA5.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 15:37:30 -!- agspathis [~user@ppp-94-64-128-184.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:51 -!- ngz [~user@209.141.80.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:38:49 PokeTron [~PokeTron@unaffiliated/poketron] has joined #lisp 15:39:12 -!- Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:39:20 -!- PokeTron [~PokeTron@unaffiliated/poketron] has left #lisp 15:41:19 cyrillos [~cyrill@188.134.33.130] has joined #lisp 15:43:35 zomgbie [~jesus@h081217131002.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #lisp 15:44:26 lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has joined #lisp 15:44:52 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 15:46:36 -!- jimmy1980 [~jimmy@112.224.2.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:47:45 jimmy1980 [~jimmy@112.224.2.100] has joined #lisp 15:48:10 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:49:24 -!- lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:52:21 weirdo: You are weird :P 15:52:25 Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has joined #lisp 15:52:32 why? 15:52:59 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c2023.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:53:27 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@unaffiliated/sykopomp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 15:53:37 [18:20] idk what delta is [18:20] an epsilon You sure helped him out there :D 15:54:01 vaaal: You should really read the pcl book 15:54:17 xach:I have a question about innards of zpng. 15:54:32 Or the gentle introduction to symbolic computation if you're still new to programming 15:54:35 Joreji [~thomas@83-096.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #lisp 15:54:41 -!- vaaal [~vaaal@host225-9-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:58:48 wgl: what's up? 16:01:46 lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has joined #lisp 16:02:24 -!- pnq [~nick@AC813CA5.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:02:24 jleija [~jleija@50.8.10.126] has joined #lisp 16:03:12 Davidbrcz [~david@ANantes-151-1-35-40.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #lisp 16:04:49 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@ANantes-151-1-35-40.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:16 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 16:15:00 Bike [~Glossina@71-38-156-210.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #lisp 16:20:31 schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-050-127.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #lisp 16:20:35 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 16:20:53 ravster [~user@184.175.28.107] has joined #lisp 16:21:43 -!- ravster [~user@184.175.28.107] has quit [Client Quit] 16:22:33 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 16:22:56 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 16:23:14 -!- dbushenko [~dim@146-163.vpn.aichyna.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:24:05 -!- LakatosI [53a6d29d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.166.210.157] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:24:46 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:26:31 wgl: the suspense is killing me 16:26:50 wgl: we need Xach, don't make him die 16:27:06 mstevens [~mstevens@ceres.etla.org] has joined #lisp 16:27:06 -!- mstevens [~mstevens@ceres.etla.org] has quit [Changing host] 16:27:06 mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #lisp 16:28:18 -!- zmv is now known as wgl_ 16:28:32 Xach: not much 16:28:38 Sorry. phone call 16:28:38 -!- wgl_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:28:57 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 16:29:03 -!- zomgbie [~jesus@h081217131002.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:29:05 zpng writes chunks out in 4096 byte sizes 16:29:22 Wondering how to convince it to write it out with max size. 16:30:02 -!- ramusara [~ramusara@220.156.210.236.user.e-catv.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:30:09 hmm 16:30:25 Max size is apparently 32768. 16:30:48 agspathis [~user@ppp-94-64-128-184.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lisp 16:30:56 The way I found this out was to use imagemagick/convert to take a png file to tiff, then convert it back again. 16:31:11 converted back to png shows chunk size of 32768. 16:31:37 let me see 16:31:45 As a result the file is many times smaller. 16:31:48 juniorroy [~juniorroy@212.36.228.103] has joined #lisp 16:32:18 wellll 16:32:33 Is it because of that or because salza2 is not as good at compression? 16:33:02 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-121.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 16:33:10 No, the thing is that the compression gets dramatically better results with larger chunks. 16:33:14 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 16:33:18 Or at least I have convinced myself that this is the case. 16:33:24 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:33:43 Looking through salza briefly, it seems to use all the tricks that it should be using, unless I am missing something. 16:34:47 wgl: no, the chunk size of idat has nothing to do with the compression window 16:34:50 -!- ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:34:51 -!- Joreji [~thomas@83-096.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:35:00 wgl: it doesn't start a new compression context for each chunk 16:35:07 Hmmm. 16:35:21 So it compresses, then chunks it up? 16:35:22 salza doesn't explore as many possible compression strategies as C zlib 16:35:27 Ah. 16:35:27 yeah. 16:35:43 i'm open to increasing the chunk size anyway, i could see that having some overhead 16:35:48 just not sure it will make a big difference to you 16:35:58 I see your point. 16:36:47 looking at zpng code it seems to use 16k idat chunk size 16:36:58 actually, maybe not. 16:37:05 They come out as 4096 16:37:43 I wrote a decoder that reads the chunk names and sizes. 16:37:55 I see why it works like that. 16:39:17 wgl: when i write pngs with zpng where i care about the size, i usually postprocess with pngcrush 16:39:36 Ah. 16:40:35 Ok. I achieved the same thing with convert to tiff and back again. The only problem is that it took an hour on my 8 gig mac and about 16 gigs of intermediate disk space. 16:41:14 yow. how big is the png in total? 16:41:26 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-128-121.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:41:31 tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has joined #lisp 16:42:04 zpng produces a 24 meg file. Internally, it is one gig of pixels. 16:42:47 -!- juniorroy [~juniorroy@212.36.228.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:43:54 an hour? jebus. 16:43:58 which lisp? 16:44:12 imagemagick sucks on really big images. 16:44:36 Sorry. zpng takes at most a minute. It is the imagemagick/convert steps that take an hour. 16:44:39 -!- lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:44:53 sanjoyd [~sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has joined #lisp 16:44:55 i had to write my own C compositor for my poster project because imagemagick took 30-60 seconds to do the job. 16:45:00 C compositor takes 2-3. 16:45:22 Cool. 16:45:28 wgl: pngcrush could probably do a lot better, too. it doesn't do any kind of image analysis. 16:45:48 the problem, i think, with imagemagick is its use of a bloated intermediate format. 16:45:59 That was my guess. 16:46:00 lots of bits per channel 16:46:52 and it loads the whole image into memory first. you could get way faster by doing a row at a time with libpng. or just not looking at the data as an image at all. 16:48:21 Right. But imagemagick converts images of type * to type * so it shortcuts with some intermediate form. 16:49:02 lispone [~lispone@host163-17-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 16:49:19 who can help me to use my first library? :-\ 16:49:27 Fade: to specifically answer your question, sbcl. 16:49:49 Pretty much my standard. But I have done some clojure for gigs that have java ecosystem. 16:52:35 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 16:52:44 lispone: what's up? 16:53:26 still adw charting :-D 16:53:32 (i'm vaaal) 16:53:54 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:53:56 i explain what i wrote: 16:54:01 (ql:quickload "adw-chart") 16:54:07 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.135.8] has left #lisp 16:54:08 (ql:quickload "adw-charting-vecto") 16:54:25 and (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op 'adw-charting-vecto) but simply doens't work. 16:54:57 Xach: thanks for help. 16:55:01 (ql:quickload :adw-charting) 16:55:07 there is no system called adw-chart 16:55:10 ops 16:55:19 yes, chartin, (ql:quickload "adw-chart") didn't even works. 16:55:28 yes, i've done adw-chartin and doens't work. 16:55:34 *ing 16:55:41 -!- sanjoyd [~sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55:57 well, use paste.lisp.org and paste what you have. 16:56:49 if it's just an error trying to load the libraries, try: (ql:quickload '(adw-charting adw-charting-vecto)) 16:57:26 the call to asdf:oos isn't needed after the quickload. the systems will be loaded in your image. 16:57:55 vaaal [irc2gowebc@net-93-144-201-82.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #lisp 16:58:03 sorry, the connection went down 16:58:11 lundis [~lundis@dyn56-31.yok.fi] has joined #lisp 16:58:21 so i sayd that i wrote adw-charting and still doens't work. 16:58:23 any idea? 16:58:30 if it's just an error trying to load the libraries, try: (ql:quickload '(adw-charting adw-charting-vecto)) 16:58:39 the call to asdf:oos isn't needed after the quickload. the systems will be loaded in your image. 16:59:45 -!- lispone [~lispone@host163-17-dynamic.18-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:00:22 still doesn't work :-( 17:00:36 then use paste.lisp.org to paste the problem. 17:02:51 http://paste.lisp.org/display/123671 17:03:46 the symbol with-chart is in the adw-charting package 17:03:50 replore_ [~replore@ntkngw133234.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 17:03:55 tcr [~tcr@77-58-246-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #lisp 17:04:10 yes, so? 17:04:17 i've load it, or no? 17:04:21 ammend the call to read (adw-charting:with-chart ...) or (use-package :adw-charting) 17:04:28 from cl-user 17:04:33 ah 17:04:37 ok, i'll try 17:04:50 you should really heed our advice about Practical Common Lisp. 17:05:05 you're going to thrash around at every little thing because you don't understand the basics. 17:05:34 fade, i want to use just this library. It worth to understand all that chapter on practical cl? 17:06:35 agspathi` [~user@ppp-94-64-153-157.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lisp 17:08:11 -!- agspathis [~user@ppp-94-64-128-184.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:08:38 http://paste.lisp.org/display/123671#1 17:08:58 thank you, it works now! 17:08:59 ^^ 17:09:02 vaaal: if you want to write programs in common lisp, it's worth while to read the whole book. 17:09:19 fade, i've read two other book of lisp 17:09:27 but i've never put into package 17:09:36 maybe i should :-) 17:09:40 gffa [~gffa@5249FBAA.cm-4-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #lisp 17:09:56 then read the section in pcl on packages 17:10:04 this is basic. :) 17:10:49 -!- gffa [~gffa@5249FBAA.cm-4-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 17:11:08 ok, you totally persuade me :-) 17:11:13 and thank you for your help 17:11:35 gffa [~gffa@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #lisp 17:11:59 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 17:12:43 no problem. 17:14:09 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:17:05 ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 17:18:20 -!- genieliu [~genieliu@59.78.62.120] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:20 *Xach* tackles the broken update report problem 17:19:32 -!- sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 17:20:20 Joreji [~thomas@83-096.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #lisp 17:20:42 sykopomp [~sykopomp@gateway/tor-sasl/sykopomp] has joined #lisp 17:24:44 -!- agspathi` [~user@ppp-94-64-153-157.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28:57 nauar [~kvirc@70.Red-213-4-38.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 17:29:17 ISF [~ivan@187.106.54.41] has joined #lisp 17:29:45 -!- vaaal [irc2gowebc@net-93-144-201-82.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:31:49 peteriserins [~peteris@84.237.180.192] has joined #lisp 17:34:30 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:35:05 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 17:42:29 -!- tfb [~tfb@restormel.cley.com] has quit [Quit: sleeping] 17:47:30 -!- peteriserins [~peteris@84.237.180.192] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:52:01 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 17:54:41 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55:18 oudeis [~oudeis@109.64.215.151] has joined #lisp 17:58:53 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@109.64.215.151] has quit [Client Quit] 18:04:50 how many letters for caaaaaaaaaaars are optimal? 18:04:58 between 'c' and 'r' 18:06:23 4 18:06:34 oh between 18:06:36 then 2 18:06:52 I think that three is reasonable. 18:06:53 Simul [~user@97-93-224-156.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #lisp 18:06:57 e.g., cadar. 18:07:13 cadadr 18:07:20 well 18:07:24 that goes ok too i think 18:07:43 but more than that i don't know.... 18:08:32 as long as the longest normal english word(noun/verb) maybe.... 18:08:47 zomgbie [~jesus@h081217131002.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #lisp 18:09:27 longest english normal word which is also frequent i mean.... 18:10:15 i have to put at least 4 because a lisp's gotta be a lisp 18:11:21 pnq [~nick@AC8260E3.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 18:12:35 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:14:56 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:15:02 jewel [~jewel@196-215-16-133.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #lisp 18:15:41 -!- neaer [~adskjf@118.39.114.41] has quit [] 18:17:59 wtf, why do i get always maxima-23.post sources when i cvs checkout it, tho the latest seems to be 24 version ? 18:18:40 -!- pnq [~nick@AC8260E3.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:19:30 laaav [irc2gowebc@net-93-144-205-21.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #lisp 18:19:45 damn, i've a problem with adw-charting :-D 18:19:51 i think it's a buf of the program... 18:19:55 of the library 18:22:00 http://paste.lisp.org/display/123674 18:22:39 lisper [18d1340b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.209.52.11] has joined #lisp 18:23:26 Hi, Does anyone know if clozure common lisp supports a compare and swap primitive? 18:24:00 I found atomic-incf and atomic-decf but nothing similar to sb-ext:compare-and-swap 18:25:51 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:26:29 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:30:11 DrYes [~me@host109-149-254-175.range109-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lisp 18:31:35 zmv__ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:31:46 hmmm, woolets maxima-init.mac file does not work in my maxima-23.post with sbcl backend.... 18:31:52 on slackware 18:32:48 i get always not an infix-operator error on stdin 331, incorrect syntax )$ 18:33:11 simple control error 18:33:50 Balooga [~balooga@pool-173-55-252-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 18:35:07 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:35:18 -!- mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:35:36 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:39:17 ahriman` [~ahriman@109.123.146.178] has joined #lisp 18:40:21 Balooga_ [~balooga@pool-173-55-252-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 18:42:06 -!- Balooga [~balooga@pool-173-55-252-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:42:06 -!- Balooga_ is now known as Balooga 18:50:39 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:51:08 zmv___ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 18:51:24 Is there a way to export all the symbols in a class without typing them out explicitly? 18:51:55 Symbols aren't in classes. 18:51:56 <_3b> lots of them, doesn't mean it is a good idea though 18:52:05 hmm 18:52:16 <_3b> since most of the symbols used to define a class aren't part of that classes API 18:52:17 like, say, all fields in a clsql class 18:52:36 The accessors, then? 18:52:43 yes 18:52:44 <_3b> if you are doing something specific, then a macro for that specific purpose might be appropriate 18:54:07 -!- zmv__ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:54:19 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:58:55 -!- alama [~jessealam@dm230.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:06:05 SuChek_ [~SuChek@unaffiliated/suchek] has joined #lisp 19:06:09 -!- zomgbie [~jesus@h081217131002.dyn.cm.kabsi.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:09:07 -!- SuChek [~SuChek@unaffiliated/suchek] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:10:18 GrayMagiker [~steve@c-174-56-88-247.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:10:45 xxxyyy [~xyxu@222.68.163.207] has joined #lisp 19:11:57 A sort of lisp-related joke http://pastebin.ch/6627 19:12:03 aerique [310225@xs8.xs4all.nl] has joined #lisp 19:12:57 pnq [~nick@ACA25B38.ipt.aol.com] has joined #lisp 19:13:00 realitygrill [~realitygr@c-24-5-7-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:13:25 -!- replore_ [~replore@ntkngw133234.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:32 alama [~jessealam@dm230.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lisp 19:19:40 replore [~replore@ntkngw133234.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 19:19:42 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-16-133.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:19:42 -!- Spion [~spion@unaffiliated/spion] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:21:03 -!- laaav [irc2gowebc@net-93-144-205-21.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:22:19 -!- taiyal [~taiyal@bb-216-195-184-102.gwi.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22:42 -!- aerique [310225@xs8.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: ...] 19:23:24 -!- Balooga [~balooga@pool-173-55-252-200.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has left #lisp 19:25:37 -!- DrYes is now known as DrMaybe 19:25:59 -!- DrMaybe [~me@host109-149-254-175.range109-149.btcentralplus.com] has left #lisp 19:28:45 sanjoyd [~sanjoyd@unaffiliated/sanjoyd] has joined #lisp 19:29:43 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@c-24-5-7-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: realitygrill] 19:32:25 taiyal [~taiyal@bb-216-195-184-102.gwi.net] has joined #lisp 19:34:32 -!- zmv___ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:34:35 -!- tcr [~tcr@77-58-246-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:35:36 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:36:39 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 19:36:40 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 19:38:51 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:38:53 -!- zmv_ is now known as zmv 19:44:11 lakkris [~furfag@pool-71-164-242-237.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 19:46:15 -!- bandu [kvirc@unaffiliated/bandu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:46:56 -!- jrockway [~jrockway@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe93:50b0] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:52:49 jrockway [~jrockway@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe93:50b0] has joined #lisp 19:53:00 -!- xxxyyy [~xyxu@222.68.163.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:53:22 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 19:55:46 -!- morphism [~Nevermind@123.16.109.146] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:56:09 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:56:13 -!- zfx [~zfx@unaffiliated/zfx] has quit [Quit: Be back later] 19:59:49 I just noticed, the login of Donald Knuth is "uno". 20:01:48 Hi, Does anyone know if clozure common lisp supports a compare and swap primitive? 20:01:52 I found atomic-incf and atomic-decf but nothing similar to sb-ext:compare-and-swap 20:02:27 lisper: Still nope. 20:02:41 lisper: the mailing list is usually extremely helpful. 20:02:50 openmcl-devel is what it's called. 20:02:54 -!- fgump [~fgump__@openvpn-124-140.inf.ed.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:03:04 *Xach* found the dist update report bug, can now fix 20:03:06 zfx [~zfx@unaffiliated/zfx] has joined #lisp 20:03:16 setmeaway [~setmeaway@183.106.96.61] has joined #lisp 20:04:21 ok, also how hard would it be to get a double compare and swap in sbcl? That is atomically updating two pointer sized memory locations at a time? 20:04:36 *Xach* does not know, sorry 20:05:44 no problem, I'll hang around just in case someone else does :). Mostly interested in lock free algorithms. :) 20:06:14 lisper: natively? not very much possible. 20:06:38 With some wrapping, . 20:09:43 dl [~download@dhcp95.hpc.unm.edu] has joined #lisp 20:12:05 -!- lakkris is now known as bandu 20:12:06 -!- bandu [~furfag@pool-71-164-242-237.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:12:06 bandu [~furfag@unaffiliated/bandu] has joined #lisp 20:12:30 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 20:13:27 pkhuong, interesting. So no way to write a transform or whatnot to have the compiler use the machine instructions if they are there? 20:13:49 there is no such machine instruction. 20:14:10 At best, we have 64 and 128 bit CAS. 20:15:07 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:18:09 -!- schaueho [~schaueho@dslb-088-066-050-127.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:08 -!- oGMo [~rpav@66.219.59.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:20:13 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 20:22:40 sorry for offtopic 20:22:41 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23:00 when i add some code to my codebase, where do i put its license? 20:23:20 can i just add it to the file, or does it have to be with my main license, appended, for every contrib? 20:24:21 -!- pnq [~nick@ACA25B38.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:29:10 -!- drdo` is now known as drdo 20:35:47 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37:33 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 20:40:42 gravicappa [~gravicapp@p57A40AAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lisp 20:40:59 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-6-95.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 20:41:53 -!- EyesIsMine is now known as Eyes|Sleeping 20:42:19 alex` [~alex@p549B487C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 20:43:41 n1tn4tsn0k [~nitnatsno@46.158.183.66] has joined #lisp 20:47:54 ravster [~user@184.175.28.107] has joined #lisp 20:47:58 Hello all 20:49:18 martinhex [~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #lisp 20:52:40 zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 20:54:50 -!- n1tn4tsn0k [~nitnatsno@46.158.183.66] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:54:58 weirdo: we are not lawyers. 20:55:32 weirdo: as a not-lawyer, I will observe that I often see LICENSE files noting that some components of a project may be licensed differently, and to see see them for details, with actual licenses in heading comments 20:55:46 i see. thank you. 20:55:47 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:01:27 -!- nauar [~kvirc@70.Red-213-4-38.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:06:43 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@p57A40AAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:03 ngz [~user@209.141.80.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lisp 21:08:49 -!- jleija [~jleija@50.8.10.126] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:11:48 -!- BlankVerse [~pankajm@202.3.77.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:14:02 zmv [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #lisp 21:16:21 seangrove [~user@c-69-181-192-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 21:17:39 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@189-47-123-113.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:26:27 -!- gemelen 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