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I doubt its bad awk skills, b/c each of those two system names have oddness 00:21:19 zomgbie [~jesus@84.119.86.249] has joined #lisp 00:22:38 Xach: e.g. asn.1 has the ".1" and s-protobub has the early dash w/ "s-" 00:23:38 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-24-217-28.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 00:24:14 actually s-protobuf is prob. not the culprit as there is also f-underscore 00:24:49 -!- kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.215.146] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 00:26:47 ska``` [~user@ppp-58-8-94-231.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #lisp 00:26:54 -!- ska`` [~user@ppp-58-8-94-231.revip2.asianet.co.th] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:57 alama [~alama@2001:888:19f0:2:cabc:c8ff:fea1:9ae5] has joined #lisp 00:30:31 kpreid [~kpreid@128.153.215.146] has joined #lisp 00:32:05 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@dsl081-060-042.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:32:05 -!- lemoinem [~swoog@162-76-252-216.dsl.colba.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:29 lemoinem [~swoog@251-85-252-216.dsl.colba.net] has joined #lisp 00:40:13 timack [~tim@hlfx62-1-61.ns.sympatico.ca] has joined #lisp 00:41:17 Kenjin [~josesanto@bl16-195-88.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 00:42:01 -!- confounds is now known as confounds_afk 00:44:26 -!- Mococa [~Mococa@186.214.242.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:44:29 DukePatience [~LordPatie@CPE-121-216-228-144.lnse3.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #lisp 00:47:13 -!- mishoo [~mishoo@79.112.237.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:47:49 -!- DukePatience [~LordPatie@CPE-121-216-228-144.lnse3.ken.bigpond.net.au] has left #lisp 00:49:31 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Quit: mrSpec] 00:49:33 -!- TeMPOraL [~user@188.146.140.121.nat.umts.dynamic.eranet.pl] has quit [Quit: zZz] 00:51:15 -!- Kenjin [~josesanto@bl16-195-88.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep] 00:53:04 sellout [~Adium@pool-71-175-25-141.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 00:56:46 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:57:34 -!- rvirding [~chatzilla@h134n5c1o1034.bredband.skanova.com] has left #lisp 00:58:58 azaq23 [~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23] has joined #lisp 01:00:50 -!- drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:11 drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lisp 01:01:53 -!- carlocci [~nes@93.37.176.7] has quit [Quit: eventually IE will rot and die] 01:03:40 -!- pmd [~user@2001:690:2100:4:200:1aff:fe19:ddfc] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:00 fisxoj [~fisxoj@cpe-24-59-205-231.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 01:06:39 -!- _s1gma [~herpderp@77.107.164.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:08:17 pizzledizzle [~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 01:08:29 -!- zc00gii [~zc00gii@thefacepalm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:09:28 -!- fisxoj [~fisxoj@cpe-24-59-205-231.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:12:21 cheezus [~Adium@75-119-248-180.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #lisp 01:12:40 Was Gabor Melis' clon ever in quicklisp or am I imagining things? 01:12:53 It was not 01:13:13 Xach: Thanks. Off to create an issue. :) 01:16:12 zc00gii [~zc00gii@thefacepalm.net] has joined #lisp 01:22:18 krfs [~jonata@189-16-43-233.cte.net.br] has joined #lisp 01:22:36 -!- zc00gii [~zc00gii@thefacepalm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:23:44 homie [~user@xdsl-78-35-137-118.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 01:24:05 -!- Joreji [~thomas@79-125.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:24:52 -!- ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:27:19 ikki [~ikki@189.139.219.88] has joined #lisp 01:28:23 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-78-35-137-118.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 01:30:33 zc00gii [~zc00gii@thefacepalm.net] has joined #lisp 01:31:03 homie [~user@xdsl-78-35-137-118.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 01:34:16 -!- alama [~alama@2001:888:19f0:2:cabc:c8ff:fea1:9ae5] has quit [Quit: alama] 01:37:06 rien [~rien@dyn-160-39-34-114.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #lisp 01:37:35 dfkjjkfd [~paulh@210-11-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #lisp 01:41:37 -!- enthymeme [~kraken@adsl-76-245-60-219.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.1.1] 01:44:54 -!- njan [~james@freenode/staff/njan] has left #lisp 01:50:31 -!- sc0ty` [~user@a85-138-126-73.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:53:15 -!- peterhil [~peterhil@a91-153-127-82.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:57:04 -!- dto [~dto@pool-96-252-62-25.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:01:13 -!- tmitt [~seg@adsl-86-22-244.tys.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:05:41 rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has joined #lisp 02:07:59 -!- drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:43 drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lisp 02:12:24 -!- cheezus [~Adium@75-119-248-180.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:13:18 enthymeme [~kraken@cpe-76-90-52-4.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 02:14:05 -!- zomgbie [~jesus@84.119.86.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:14:50 homie` [~user@xdsl-78-35-172-237.netcologne.de] has joined #lisp 02:16:48 -!- drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17:04 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-78-35-137-118.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:21:18 bsod1 [~osa1@188.56.184.153] has joined #lisp 02:24:59 -!- askatasuna [~askatasun@190.97.34.146] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 02:27:05 udzinari [~user@209.158.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #lisp 02:27:17 tronador__ [~guille@190.67.36.175] has joined #lisp 02:27:30 -!- pabst [~anonymous@208.74.177.139.static.etheric.net] has quit [Quit: pabst] 02:27:50 is there a glossary from which I can learn that terpri stands for TERminate and PRInt new line and rplaca stands for RePLAce CAr ? (I hope those are right) 02:28:05 rien: glossary is included in CLHS 02:28:29 is there a magic word we can ask fsbot for the direct link? :) 02:28:37 ,clhs glossary 02:28:41 :/ 02:29:28 -!- tronador_ [~guille@190.253.157.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:29:28 -!- tronador__ is now known as tronador_ 02:29:51 http://l1sp.org/search/terpri 02:29:52 Sometimes I think format ~:d is my favorite feature in CL. 02:30:02 ~:D is happier 02:31:10 Xach: 02:31:23 Xach: that's incredibly useful, did you write that? 02:31:24 yamina [~Tu1ly@212.203.98.114] has joined #lisp 02:31:29 rien: Yes. 02:31:37 nice, thanks for that. 02:32:21 oudeis [~oudeis@conffw.macrovision.com] has joined #lisp 02:32:42 k04n [~k04n@cpe-76-175-192-194.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 02:33:57 mais de rien, rien 02:34:16 :) 02:34:36 -!- yamina [~Tu1ly@212.203.98.114] has quit [Client Quit] 02:40:10 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@conffw.macrovision.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:40:17 -!- k04n [~k04n@cpe-76-175-192-194.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42:32 slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-99-39-233-50.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 02:45:15 evening 02:45:26 k04n [~k04n@cpe-76-175-192-194.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lisp 02:46:00 'morning 02:53:05 -!- urandom__ [~user@p548A662D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:55:02 -!- zc00gii [~zc00gii@thefacepalm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:56:12 AdotB [~andrew@85.sub-75-208-101.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 02:57:16 -!- ssacc [~sa@91-66-179-192-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:00:24 drl [~lat@125.167.140.159] has joined #lisp 03:02:01 zc00gii [~zc00gii@thefacepalm.net] has joined #lisp 03:05:56 -!- sellout [~Adium@pool-71-175-25-141.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:07:13 -!- AdotB [~andrew@85.sub-75-208-101.myvzw.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:07:20 -!- bsod1 [~osa1@188.56.184.153] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:46 -!- krfs [~jonata@189-16-43-233.cte.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:09:50 -!- confounds_afk [~confounds@CPE0013f7f0bd88-CM0013f7f0bd84.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:11:04 sellout [~Adium@pool-71-175-25-141.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:11:07 -!- madnificent [~madnifice@83.101.62.132] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:12:00 icbh [~icbh@ntszok054022.szok.nt.adsl.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #lisp 03:15:32 -!- pizzledizzle [~pizdets@pool-96-250-215-244.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 03:15:57 pc__ [~pc@pool-71-163-139-151.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:16:42 props to mega1 03:17:18 krfs [~jonata@189-16-43-233.cte.net.br] has joined #lisp 03:17:43 -!- RaceCondition [~erik@dsl-hkibrasgw4-fe5ddc00-120.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: RaceCondition] 03:18:10 What do you guys think of ML 03:18:36 -!- pc__ [~pc@pool-71-163-139-151.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:19:27 -!- tronador_ [~guille@190.67.36.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:59 stassats: Thanks for the slime fix. Works great now! Who woulda thunk it would be another multiple-value problem! I saw that code and suspected init-popup, but totally missed the multiple-value issue. 03:20:53 -!- Posterdati [~tapioca@host127-230-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21:44 -!- sellout [~Adium@pool-71-175-25-141.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:21:54 pdc [~patrickdc@pool-71-163-139-151.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:24:40 -!- pdc [~patrickdc@pool-71-163-139-151.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has left #lisp 03:27:09 leersog [~leers@c-68-40-9-146.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 03:28:29 -!- leers [~leers@c-68-40-9-146.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:28:29 -!- leersog is now known as leers 03:28:59 Patrick-DC [~Patrick-D@pool-71-163-139-151.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:29:04 sellout [~Adium@pool-71-175-25-141.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 03:30:01 /test 03:30:12 pattern_ [~pattern@ool-45715287.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #lisp 03:30:39 -!- pattern [~pattern@unaffiliated/pattern] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:31:05 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: night] 03:32:32 Hi everyone, this is my first day here 03:32:36 I love LISP 03:32:51 Welcome 03:32:58 What's your favorite dialect? 03:33:10 This channel is for Common Lisp. 03:33:26 What's your favorite Common LISP? 03:33:38 I like the SBCL implementation. 03:33:52 Me too 03:34:42 Where is the best place to find awesome macros and libraries for SBCL? 03:34:51 If it's your first time here, you might want to lurk a while to see how things go. 03:35:00 k 03:35:10 cliki.net, quicklisp 03:35:30 jesusito [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #lisp 03:37:51 so if I get this right, the only difference between flet and labels is that using the function name in flet refers to the global function, whereas labels doesn't (and thus allows you to do recursion)? 03:38:35 Patrick-DC: I didn't mean to imply that you should be quiet or anything, but this channel has a history of upsetting newcomers who don't get the vibe. 03:38:51 Haha cool 03:38:58 Thank you for the links 03:39:13 Landr: no, functions introduced by labels are visible inside definitions 03:39:38 inside definitions of those functions inside labels, that is 03:40:02 well yes, so that allows me to have the definition call itself, no? 03:40:09 it has nothing to do with global functions 03:40:11 i mean, the function being defined 03:40:13 Landr: right 03:40:32 and the function which will be defined later in the text, or beforehand 03:40:36 which still leaves me to wonder what the flet equivalent of let* is, since I need to build a function on top of another 03:40:44 unless i just do flet twice? 03:41:03 -!- xan_ [~xan@167.Red-79-158-92.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:41:06 labels 03:41:40 -!- dkasak [~dkasak@93-141-124-88.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:42:09 ah, thanks 03:43:30 -!- pattern_ [~pattern@ool-45715287.dyn.optonline.net] has left #lisp 03:44:03 rien|wor` [~user@rrcs-69-193-217-130.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 03:44:14 pattern [~pattern@unaffiliated/pattern] has joined #lisp 03:45:05 -!- theBlackDragon [~dragon@83.101.84.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:45:34 -!- rien|work|away [~user@rrcs-69-193-217-130.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:45:34 -!- sonnym1 [~evissecer@rrcs-184-74-137-167.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:46:06 theBlackDragon [~dragon@83.101.63.124] has joined #lisp 03:48:30 -!- dfkjjkfd [~paulh@210-11-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:53:13 sonnym [~evissecer@rrcs-184-74-137-167.nys.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 03:54:53 rdd` [~rdd@c83-250-51-60.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 03:55:00 -!- k04n [~k04n@cpe-76-175-192-194.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:15 churib_ [~churib@95.156.194.105] has joined #lisp 03:55:29 snafuchs [~foobar@ec2-184-73-244-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #lisp 03:55:45 dostoyev1ky [sck@oemcomputer.oerks.de] has joined #lisp 03:55:56 cmm- [~cmm@109.64.211.191] has joined #lisp 03:56:08 maxigas`` [~user@mail.szervermegoldasok.hu] has joined #lisp 03:56:08 jesusito` [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #lisp 03:56:25 naryl1 [~weechat@213.170.70.141] has joined #lisp 03:56:32 -!- timack [~tim@hlfx62-1-61.ns.sympatico.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:57:35 fds_ [~frankie@ajax.webvictim.net] has joined #lisp 03:57:39 Jabberwock [~quassel@83.151.30.10] has joined #lisp 04:00:35 -!- jesusito` [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Client Quit] 04:00:38 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-99-39-233-50.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00:39 -!- churib [~churib@95.156.194.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:39 -!- antifuchs [~foobar@ec2-184-73-244-158.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:39 -!- cmm [~cmm@109.64.211.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:39 -!- frodef [~frode@shevek.netfonds.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- naryl [~weechat@213.170.70.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- dostoyevsky [sck@oemcomputer.oerks.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- jesusito [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- rdd [~rdd@c83-250-51-60.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- chrnybo` [~user@148.122.202.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- maxigas` [~user@mail.szervermegoldasok.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- Taggnostr2 [~x@dyn57-215.yok.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- Jabberwockey [~quassel@83.151.30.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:40 -!- fds [~frankie@fsf/member/fds] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:41 -!- snafuchs is now known as antifuchs 04:00:41 Taggnostr2 [~x@dyn57-215.yok.fi] has joined #lisp 04:00:46 -!- AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:01:07 jesusito [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #lisp 04:01:09 -!- krfs [~jonata@189-16-43-233.cte.net.br] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 04:01:10 -!- Jabberwock is now known as Guest52202 04:01:48 -!- fds_ is now known as fds 04:02:56 AntiSpamMeta [~MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot] has joined #lisp 04:04:59 -!- nefo [~nefo@unaffiliated/nefo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:05:22 -!- fds [~frankie@ajax.webvictim.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:05:23 fds [~frankie@fsf/member/fds] has joined #lisp 04:06:21 -!- sellout [~Adium@pool-71-175-25-141.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:07:10 chemuduguntar [~ravi@118-92-4-220.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #lisp 04:07:13 pers [~user@57.sub-75-198-253.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 04:07:23 LightingLight [defeb710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.222.254.183.16] has joined #lisp 04:09:01 -!- jesusito [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has left #lisp 04:09:50 Hi, I have a function in lisp and want to use it in windows, do you know how to compile it into dll with sbcl or ccl? Thanks 04:10:21 you can't do that with sbcl or ccl 04:11:42 I see on the internet something about FFI, and there was a plugin in eclipse called cusp can compile lisp project into exe file 04:12:08 so I think there might have some command to do that 04:12:23 you can compile into exe files, but not into DLLs 04:13:01 so could you tell me how to compile into exe? thanks 04:13:47 LightingLight: http://www.cliki.net/Creating%20Executables 04:14:07 thank you 04:14:11 tronador_ [~guille@190.67.36.175] has joined #lisp 04:14:20 dto [~dto@pool-96-252-62-25.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 04:14:50 Liera [~Liera@113.172.68.155] has joined #lisp 04:15:21 -!- sako|AFK is now known as sako 04:16:26 I see that ECL can compile to dll, that's cool 04:16:40 -!- theBlackDragon [~dragon@83.101.63.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:18:14 leersog [~leers@c-68-40-9-146.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 04:18:41 theBlackDragon [~dragon@83.101.63.158] has joined #lisp 04:21:17 -!- leers [~leers@c-68-40-9-146.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:21:17 -!- leersog is now known as leers 04:22:40 -!- LightingLight [defeb710@gateway/web/freenode/ip.222.254.183.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 241 seconds] 04:26:06 -!- drl [~lat@125.167.140.159] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:31:13 -!- rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:32:02 The_Fellow1 [~spider1@62.219.129.123] has joined #lisp 04:34:08 -!- azaq23 [~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:34:08 Gmind [~Nevermind@113.190.186.128] has joined #lisp 04:34:09 oh :D 04:34:09 -!- Gmind [~Nevermind@113.190.186.128] has left #lisp 04:34:09 Gmind [~Nevermind@113.190.186.128] has joined #lisp 04:34:10 hey cky 04:34:10 :)) 04:34:10 u there too ? 04:34:10 stassats: Sorry to bug you again. Can you give me a hint on how to get asdf to use my own compile function? 04:34:10 *Gmind* wonder if ppl in #scheme is here too 04:34:11 c2hk [~hujvpalto@109-184-40-163.dynamic.mts-nn.ru] has joined #lisp 04:35:39 -!- The_Fellow [~spider1@62.219.129.123] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:43:43 -!- sonnym [~evissecer@rrcs-184-74-137-167.nys.biz.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:44:17 rtoym: http://paste.lisp.org/display/119784#1 04:45:09 quasisane [~sanep@c-76-24-80-97.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 04:46:10 -!- shth0Rx [~sth0R@125.69.3.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:46:40 jesusito [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #lisp 04:47:42 stassats: Thank you very much! 04:48:39 So if I wanted to do something special for a particular file? 04:49:27 MetalDust_Clouds [~metaldust@75-32-203-61.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 04:49:47 Maybe (:fortran-file "foo" :perform )? 04:49:59 right 04:50:19 -!- MetalDust [~metaldust@75-32-203-61.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:50:27 Thanks. I'll give it a try. 04:50:44 :perform (compile-op :around (op c) (print "something special") (call-next-method)) 04:51:39 psilord2 [~psilord@76.201.149.53] has joined #lisp 04:51:50 -!- psilord2 [~psilord@76.201.149.53] has left #lisp 04:51:58 I think I'd want something like :perform (compile-op (op c) (f2cl-compile c )) 04:56:28 -!- l0ve [~l0ve@208-58-71-117.c3-0.fch-ubr1.lnh-fch.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 05:01:16 simplechat [~simplecha@unaffiliated/simplechat] has joined #lisp 05:04:29 oudeis [~oudeis@adsl-99-33-130-209.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 05:07:51 -!- Ralith [~ralith@S010600221561996a.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07:58 Ralith [~ralith@S010600221561996a.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #lisp 05:08:06 shth0Rx [~sth0R@125.69.119.178] has joined #lisp 05:15:41 slyrus [~chatzilla@adsl-99-39-233-50.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 05:16:43 pankajm [~pankajm@202.3.77.219] has joined #lisp 05:17:29 hargettp 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07:18:00 so I have a program I'm trying to run using run-program in sbcl, but it immediately exits (code 1). how do I find out the cause? strace? 07:18:34 :output t :error t doesn't output anything, and I'm not getting any signals about what is going on that makes execution fail. 07:19:30 -!- sabalaba [~sabalaba@173-10-44-57-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:19:53 <_3b> are you sure run-program is finding it? 07:19:58 I am not! 07:20:21 shouldn't I get a condition? :search t or nil makes no difference 07:20:34 ah. 07:20:41 it's not on my path. that would explain it. 07:20:45 <_3b> https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/676987 07:21:35 and off we go! thanks (: 07:21:50 jesusito [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #lisp 07:22:34 -!- juniorroy [~juniorroy@212.36.224.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:40:22 gemelen [~shelta@shpd-92-101-130-124.vologda.ru] has joined #lisp 07:40:40 daniel [~daniel@p5B327579.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined 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10:19:49 i think the real problem is that my compiler doesn't give me more information (aside from "there's a problem somewhere over there... not that I'll tell you what it is exactly or what line it's near") 10:19:54 beach` [~user@116.118.6.202] has joined #lisp 10:20:17 -!- beach [~user@116.118.9.118] has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:20:19 -!- beach` is now known as beach 10:20:44 Gmind [~Nevermind@123.16.105.165] has joined #lisp 10:25:11 that's the problem with too clever macros 10:25:30 i hope SICL's LOOP is more friendly 10:26:06 morphling [~stefan@gssn-5f755c27.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #lisp 10:26:50 Amadiro_ [~Amadiro@ti0021a380-dhcp2364.bb.online.no] has joined #lisp 10:26:51 stassats: It is planned to be much more friendly. 10:26:55 beach: does SICL optimize (loop for i from 0 for a across vector-1 for b across vector-2 collect (cons a b)) to use I as an indexing variable for both vectors? 10:27:01 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-141-167-222.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has 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I'll make sure mvilleneuve takes that into account. :) 10:28:49 -!- Amadiro [~Amadiro@ti0021a380-dhcp2364.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:28:52 although a sufficiently clever compiler should do that automatically, but i don't think any existing Lisps can pull such a trick 10:29:31 -!- jesusito [~user@91.pool85-49-229.dynamic.orange.es] has left #lisp 10:29:38 eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #lisp 10:35:32 -!- myu2 [~myu2@x108121.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35:37 -!- Gmind [~Nevermind@123.16.105.165] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:36:00 myu2 [~myu2@x108121.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined #lisp 10:36:40 Yeah, in general, when I have a choice with a SICL module, i prefer not to assume a sufficently smart compiler. 10:37:38 -!- adu [~ajr@softbank220043139062.bbtec.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 10:39:49 and instead of checking for whether an indexing variable has exceeded the length of each vector it could only check for the length of the smallest vector 10:40:46 and the index variable must be a fixnum, so that can be assumed. 10:41:36 right, so that could result in quite a speed-up 10:43:32 kami` [~user@unaffiliated/kami-] has joined #lisp 10:43:47 In fact, on most 64-bit Lisp implementations, if there is a (loop for i from x ...) where x is a small number, then i must be a fixnum. 10:44:19 ... but I think it is bad taste to make that assumption anyway. 10:45:34 -!- kami [~user@unaffiliated/kami-] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45:35 bsod1 [~osa1@188.56.244.192] has joined #lisp 10:50:34 -!- tfb [~tfb@94.197.53.179.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Quit: gone] 10:51:14 tfb [~tfb@94.197.53.179.threembb.co.uk] has joined #lisp 10:56:48 Liera`` [~Liera@123.21.157.178] has joined #lisp 10:57:54 Soulman [~knute@250.80-202-238.nextgentel.com] has joined #lisp 10:58:03 tfb_ [~tfb@92.41.37.133.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has joined #lisp 10:59:04 -!- Liera` [~Liera@113.172.41.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:59:09 -!- tfb [~tfb@94.197.53.179.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:02:30 where's minion? 11:07:19 -!- gaidal [~gaidal@116.21.203.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:07:40 -!- ska``` [~user@ppp-58-8-94-231.revip2.asianet.co.th] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:07:41 gaidal [~gaidal@116.21.203.161] has joined #lisp 11:09:48 MoALTz [~no@92.18.83.182] has joined #lisp 11:11:49 RaceCondition [~erik@dsl-hkibrasgw4-fe5ddc00-120.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #lisp 11:11:51 -!- RaceCondition [~erik@dsl-hkibrasgw4-fe5ddc00-120.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 11:12:14 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@catv-80-98-24-21.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #lisp 11:12:14 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@catv-80-98-24-21.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Changing host] 11:12:14 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #lisp 11:12:55 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181199216.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:18:36 -!- bsod1 [~osa1@188.56.244.192] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21:11 -!- ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:21:15 -!- tfb_ is now known as tfb 11:22:22 -!- insomnia1alt is now known as insomniaSalt 11:23:50 Jacke [jacke@valhalla.bofh.org] has joined #lisp 11:25:40 ehu [~ehuels@ip118-64-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #lisp 11:25:40 -!- gaidal [~gaidal@116.21.203.161] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26:18 leo2007 [~leo@117.28.17.59] has joined #lisp 11:26:20 gaidal [~gaidal@116.21.203.161] has joined #lisp 11:31:04 -!- gemelen [~shelta@shpd-92-101-130-124.vologda.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:32:20 gemelen [~shelta@shpd-92-101-146-214.vologda.ru] has joined #lisp 11:34:13 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181199216.pp.htv.fi] has joined #lisp 11:36:16 -!- Modius [~Modius@cpe-70-123-158-125.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: "Object-oriented design" is an oxymoron] 11:37:27 beach: sufficiently smart compilers (and this doesn't mean extraordinarily smart either, just some basic data flow analysis, constant unfolding and block reordering may sometimes be enough), render CS papers obsolete. 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"lexical intercourse" o_O 15:46:28 *p_l|backup* has been reading about free variable injection 15:47:04 bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 15:47:29 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-114-173.dip.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:49:15 don't let the details escape into #lisp 15:50:33 heh 15:50:37 afk 15:52:44 ch077179 [~urs@adsl-84-227-25-16.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 15:52:56 -!- ch077179 [~urs@adsl-84-227-25-16.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:28 ch077179 [~urs@adsl-84-227-25-16.adslplus.ch] has joined #lisp 15:54:30 BrandLeeJones [~BrandLeeJ@88.116.134.106] has joined #lisp 16:04:05 -!- beach [~user@116.118.6.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:04:49 -!- Amadiro [~Amadiro@ti0021a380-dhcp2364.bb.online.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:33 kejsaren [~kejsaren@111.25.95.91.static.ras.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #lisp 16:06:52 dkasak [~dkasak@93-141-124-88.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 16:07:00 Amadiro [~Amadiro@ti0021a380-dhcp2364.bb.online.no] has joined #lisp 16:07:15 Mococa [~Mococa@186.214.242.124] has joined #lisp 16:07:22 cheezus [~Adium@75.119.248.180] has joined #lisp 16:07:49 hey guys, how can I build all the code being loaded by sbcl with optimization? 16:08:12 cheezus: what optimization? 16:08:21 splittist [~splittist@wana-135-235-12-196.wanamaroc.com] has joined #lisp 16:08:22 Xach: for maximum speed, if there is one 16:08:52 The default settings are pretty good for that. 16:09:07 hm 16:09:41 If you use (optimize (speed 3)), you might not get much faster, but you will get a lot of notes from the compiler about what it can't automatically optimize for speed. 16:09:42 -!- gaidal [~gaidal@116.21.203.161] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10:14 gaidal [~gaidal@116.21.203.161] has joined #lisp 16:10:14 lol 16:10:34 (sb-ext:restrict-compiler-policy 'speed 3) before loading stuff might do what you want. 16:10:39 langerd [~obsidian@74.198.164.226] has joined #lisp 16:10:44 thanks Xach! 16:11:05 and might do what you don't want 16:11:15 cheezus: Out of curiosity, what do you hope this will do for you? 16:11:35 Xach: just want to see if it will make some code faster 16:12:18 but it seems like as the process runs, it's being less slow.. Not sure why 16:12:20 cheezus: It's usually easier to do some targeted profiling and tweaking. 16:12:56 Xach: yeah you're right, I'll try that instead 16:13:31 psilord1 [~psilord@76.201.144.30] has joined #lisp 16:13:56 -!- dto [~dto@pool-96-252-62-25.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14:36 albino [~albino@69.12.222.214] has joined #lisp 16:14:49 -!- tsuru [~charlie@adsl-179-29-10.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:03 molbdnilo [~Ove@c80-216-207-2.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #lisp 16:15:19 psilord2 [~psilord@76.201.144.30] has joined #lisp 16:15:21 bsod1 [~osa1@188.56.182.195] has joined #lisp 16:15:39 -!- Zephyrus [~emanuele@unaffiliated/zephyrus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16:05 heh, reed hastings also has code in common lisp music's xerox code walker 16:16:16 -!- malida [malida@190.255.91.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17:09 drdo` [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lisp 16:17:33 is clm getting added to ql? 16:17:48 tronador_ [~guille@190.253.148.80] has joined #lisp 16:18:08 Fade: Not at the moment. I vaguely remember that it's not asdf-based, but I haven't checked recently. 16:18:30 was just googling around for reed hastings + lisp 16:18:40 I got interested in clm, and was reading about a few projects that use it, but haven't tried to build it yet. 16:18:45 https://ccrma.stanford.edu/workshops/linux2001/lectures/6a/clm/walk.lisp turns it up 16:19:49 this thinkpad sl510 is pretty decent and cheap, i'm not unhappy 16:19:51 jcazevedo [~jcazevedo@2.83.203.210] has joined #lisp 16:20:04 -!- drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:20:07 -!- drdo` is now known as drdo 16:20:25 -!- splittist [~splittist@wana-135-235-12-196.wanamaroc.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 16:21:26 -!- wuj [~wuj@207-172-162-191.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:22:33 milkpost_ [~milkpost@dhcpw80ff91a0.dynamic.uiowa.edu] has joined #lisp 16:22:49 -!- bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has 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there's a defun for markdown* which calls out to cl-markdown:symbols. 16:32:54 *Xach* scratches head 16:32:59 Exactly. 16:33:01 hkr [~hkr@541F738C.cm-5-8b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #lisp 16:33:13 Xach: cl-markdown, unless you have something better to offer 16:33:23 slyrus: why does it :depend-on markdown instead of cl-markdown? 16:33:31 slyrus: What xach said 16:33:32 :) 16:33:44 do you have some symlink pranks or something? 16:33:48 -!- cheezus [~Adium@75.119.248.180] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:33:48 probably because it's a mistake 16:33:50 Silly ln -s. 16:33:57 Kenjin [~josesanto@bl19-226-120.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lisp 16:34:08 even so, that wouldn't work as simply as that, since the defsystem would define cl-markdown. 16:35:11 slyrus: does it still work properly if you switch the defsystem to reference cl-markdown? 16:35:56 -!- pankajm [~pankajm@202.3.77.219] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:36:09 -!- Joreji [~thomas@79-125.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 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tsuru [~charlie@adsl-179-29-10.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #lisp 19:41:53 mon_key: I don't read it that way. 19:41:53 Probably. 19:42:20 Xach: That was a question not an assertion :) 19:42:24 Xach: where do you see a list of character names, apart for some special characters and semi-standard ones? 19:42:43 -!- pankajm [~pankajm@202.3.77.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:42:51 dkasak_ [~dkasak@78-1-166-181.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #lisp 19:44:03 Ok, now that I read the glossary entry, I read it differently. 19:44:41 "5. n. (of a character) a string that names the character and that has length greater than one." I mistakenly thought the char-name of e.g. #\A was "A". 19:44:50 -!- sc0ty [~user@a85-138-126-73.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:45:17 (name-char (char-name (code-char 32))) 19:45:30 -!- dkasak [~dkasak@93-141-124-88.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46:11 mon_key: for space, there's a standard name: #\Space 19:46:26 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@ppp-70-242-127-27.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:46:51 "Space", actually. 19:47:01 pjb: thanks. I'm getting "#\ " is there a *print- var that might affect this? 19:47:07 Xach: right. 19:47:17 mon_key: it is required for #\Space to print as #\ . let me see where... 19:47:18 mon_key: it's probably implementation dependant. 19:47:35 No, I remember this came up in a prior discussion and everyone was dismayed to find it specified. 19:47:43 *Xach* digs 19:47:50 -!- dmytrish__ [~dmytrish@beting-proceeds.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:48:40 -!- dberg` [~user@c-24-130-149-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49:26 "For the graphic standard characters, the character itself is always used for printing in #\ notation---even if the character also has a name[5]." ... 22.1.3.2 19:50:55 -!- Bronsa [~brace@host14-180-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:50:57 Not bad. :-) 19:51:20 varjag [~eugene@4.169.249.62.customer.cdi.no] has joined #lisp 19:51:24 *Xach* does not like to read #\ in source code 19:51:26 -!- varjag [~eugene@4.169.249.62.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:30 *Xach* much prefers #\Space 19:51:33 varjag [~eugene@4.169.249.62.customer.cdi.no] has joined #lisp 19:51:38 kejsaren [~kejsaren@111.25.95.91.static.ras.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #lisp 19:51:41 So, does this mean that "#\Newline" is printed as "#\" followed by e.g. the printed representation of code-char 10? 19:51:57 mon_key: no, newline is not a graphic character. 19:52:03 yeah. any whitespace-only characters are much better when printed by their name 19:52:07 But space sometimes is not classified in graphic characters either. 19:52:23 this may be one area where it pays off (to the user) if the implementation doesn't follow the spec (-: 19:52:57 pjb: in CL it is graphic. 19:53:14 milkpost [~milkpost@dhcpw80ff91a0.dynamic.uiowa.edu] has joined #lisp 19:53:49 Bronsa [~brace@host55-120-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lisp 19:53:54 -!- kejsaren_ [~kejsaren@111.25.95.91.static.ras.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:54:04 dmytrish__ [~dmytrish@inherent.puzzler.volia.net] has joined #lisp 19:54:14 -!- bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:16 -!- sigjuice [~sigjuice@c-71-198-22-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:56:40 -!- milkpost_ [~milkpost@dhcpw80ff91a0.dynamic.uiowa.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:57:20 FWIW I'm thinking about a CL version of elisp's `concat' with an &key w-char-literals that would frob occurences of #\\newline #\\page #\\tab 19:57:20 #\\return #\\no-break_space #\\space" etc. to a `princ' like representation. 19:57:27 -!- timack [~tim@hlfx62-1-106.ns.sympatico.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57:34 bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 19:58:12 francogrex [~user@109.130.144.178] has joined #lisp 19:59:50 mon_key: Why? 20:01:06 The concat i have now does this (concat "~%" "bubba") => "~%bubba" 20:01:18 sigjuice [~sigjuice@c-71-198-22-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:01:26 and this (concat "#\\newlline" "bubba") => "#\\newllinebubba" 20:02:35 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-77-24.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 20:03:57 e.g. It can be nice to have something like elisps concat which differs in that: 20:04:00 (vconcat (concat "\n" "bubba")) => [10 98 117 98 98 97] 20:07:36 -!- dmiles_afk [~dmiles@74.209.54.217] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:07:51 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-141-167-222.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:08:24 mon_key: When I've done stuff like that, I've used keywords to designate control characters, e.g. :cr, :lf 20:08:47 -!- bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:49 PPALP 20:09:13 bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:09:48 -!- bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:13 bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:12:01 OK. Thats a nice idea. I remember that section. 20:13:13 Mapex [~Guest1091@81-178-166-194.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #lisp 20:13:18 -!- Mapex [~Guest1091@81-178-166-194.dsl.pipex.com] has left #lisp 20:13:58 -!- Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-77-24.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:36 -!- francogrex [~user@109.130.144.178] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:48 Beetny [~Beetny@ppp118-208-77-24.lns20.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #lisp 20:17:40 -!- bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:23 bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:18:34 Xach: Thanks, for the tip! Though, I think I will use "#x*" instead of ":**" e.g. "#xa" for newline. 20:20:22 They have about the same mnemonic overhead but this way I can replace occurences of "#" with "\" when sliding code between elisp and CL. 20:20:49 loxs [~loxs@2002:4e5a:7cb3:0:224:d7ff:fe0a:73b4] has joined #lisp 20:21:17 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-141-164-254.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 20:24:01 oudeis [~oudeis@48.sub-75-210-238.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 20:26:58 -!- bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:24 bhyde [~user@c-66-30-201-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 20:28:15 orivej [~orivej@m90-139-4-75.cust.tele2.ru] has joined #lisp 20:30:19 dmiles_afk [~dmiles@74.209.54.217] has joined #lisp 20:31:07 -!- dkasak_ is now known as dkasak 20:31:07 -!- xan_ [~xan@167.Red-79-158-92.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:25 xan_ [~xan@167.Red-79-158-92.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #lisp 20:31:49 EarlGray [~dmytrish@inherent.puzzler.volia.net] has joined #lisp 20:31:57 -!- dmytrish__ [~dmytrish@inherent.puzzler.volia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:34:17 orivej_ [~orivej@m90-140-183-192.cust.tele2.ru] has joined #lisp 20:35:03 -!- bsod1 [~osa1@188.56.182.195] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:06 -!- orivej [~orivej@m90-139-4-75.cust.tele2.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:35:37 -!- Guest264 [~longshot@180.184.10.145] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:03 longshot [~longshot@216.131.74.24] has joined #lisp 20:36:45 ignas [~ignas@ctv-79-132-160-221.vinita.lt] has joined #lisp 20:38:29 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-88-87.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:39:44 -!- DrForr_ is now known as DrForr 20:39:52 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@48.sub-75-210-238.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:40:22 conky [~anon@ip56583baa.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lisp 20:45:07 oudeis [~oudeis@150.sub-75-208-46.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 20:46:31 Joreji [~thomas@79-125.eduroam.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #lisp 20:51:15 -!- conky [~anon@ip56583baa.direct-adsl.nl] has left #lisp 20:53:25 -!- The_Fellow [~spider1@62.219.129.123] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:55:04 The_Fellow [~spider1@62.219.129.123] has joined #lisp 20:55:31 -!- m1ngus [~nmajo@mi061032.klientdrift.uib.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:55:42 its too bad `parse-integer' doesn't recognize radix-specifier prefixes... 20:56:19 mon_key: yes, but useless. 20:56:33 m1ngus [~Adium@tunnel-32-74.vpn.uib.no] has joined #lisp 20:56:51 pjb: why, b/c ther is *read-base*? 20:56:56 it has a :radix parameter, and you can use read-from-string to execute the reader macros. 20:57:08 mon_key: there's no such thing as a "radix-specifier prefix". 20:58:27 |Wolf|2| [~x@dyn57-215.yok.fi] has joined #lisp 20:58:27 -!- oudeis [~oudeis@150.sub-75-208-46.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:58:31 -!- |Wolf|2| [~x@dyn57-215.yok.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:41 pjb: maybe not but http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_parse_.htm#parse-integer uses the term wrt to `parse-integer' 21:00:39 mon_key: yes, but it uses the term as a way to denote reader macros. They're something entirely different to what you could find eg. in C as 0 or 0x. 21:01:09 Taggnostr2 [~x@dyn57-215.yok.fi] has joined #lisp 21:02:14 C personally find to _really_ ugly 21:02:50 er I personally find C's 0 and 0x to be _really_ ugly 21:03:07 oudeis [~oudeis@48.sub-75-210-238.myvzw.com] has joined #lisp 21:03:20 Nonetheless, the mechanism behind them is entirely different from the mechanism of lisp reader macros. 21:04:34 pjb: I didn't read it as such. 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I've been busy with other stuff, but I think it's come together fairly well. 23:56:22 hrm... why is using row-major-aref into a 2d array? so much (2x) slower than using a 1d array? 23:56:28 s/array?/array/ 23:57:05 -!- fisxoj [~fisxoj@cpe-24-59-205-231.twcny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:57:12 sounds like a missed optimisation