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element)) 03:34:04 beach: every 42 element? 03:34:19 (i know, nthcdr, but it gets ugly) 03:34:34 A bit, yes. 03:34:52 ...by #'cddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddr do... 03:36:46 -!- echo-area [~echo-area@114.251.86.0] has left #lisp 03:39:39 mcsontos [~mcsontos@nat/redhat/x-ssikdjhcxmmayioz] has joined #lisp 03:45:23 rich_holygoat_ [~rnewman@rrcs-64-183-136-38.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #lisp 03:45:24 -!- rich_holygoat_ [~rnewman@rrcs-64-183-136-38.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 03:45:24 rich_holygoat_ [~rnewman@pdpc/supporter/student/rich-holygoat] has joined #lisp 03:46:28 -!- rich_holygoat [~rnewman@pdpc/supporter/student/rich-holygoat] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:46:29 -!- rich_holygoat_ is now known as rich_holygoat 03:49:34 -!- sabalaba [~sabalaba@219.237.162.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:53:01 -!- rich_holygoat [~rnewman@pdpc/supporter/student/rich-holygoat] has quit [Quit: rich_holygoat] 03:53:34 -!- beach 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[~rbarraud@118-92-15-104.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 06:51:38 rbarraud__ [~rbarraud@118-92-15-104.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #lisp 06:53:00 stassats: (documentation subs-better 'function) is not working, subs-better is a function 06:53:27 if it's not working, then you're doing something wrong 06:53:35 stassats: Error is EVAL: variable SUBS-BETTER has no valu 06:54:03 then it's not a function, and subs-better isn't a function name either 06:54:26 try (documentation 'subs-better 'function) 06:55:33 stassats: Yes that works, I wonder why? 06:55:54 i wonder why you wonder why it shouldn't work 06:56:19 simplechat [~simplecha@unaffiliated/simplechat] has joined #lisp 06:56:29 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 06:56:34 Krystof [~csr21@84-51-132-95.christ977.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #lisp 06:56:41 stassats: I don't wonder why it should work, but I wonder why it wasn't working when I didn't put the quote 06:56:50 and i wonder why you thought it should work the way you though it should work, although the spec says how it should work 06:57:53 smik: because documentation awaits either a function, or a symbol, or a list naming a function 06:58:15 stassats: but wasn't subs-better a function? 06:58:28 Of course it was also a symbol naming a function 06:58:29 it was nothing, an unbound variable 06:58:55 stassats: I did (defun) it 06:59:01 are you aware of the fact that CL has different namespaces for functions and variables? 06:59:06 I think I am missing something fundamental here 06:59:14 stassats: No 06:59:18 indeed, it's very fundamental 06:59:23 stassats: Oh yes 06:59:39 I remember, that I can name a function and variable both with the same name 07:00:46 jgracin [~jgracin@dh111-186.xnet.hr] has joined #lisp 07:01:46 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-78-230-100.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #lisp 07:02:18 jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has joined #lisp 07:02:55 stassats: Intresting that none of the in built functions are returning any doc-strings. 07:04:26 -!- kleppari [~spa@bitbucket.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:05:11 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@eth649.act.adsl.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:05:18 smik: are you sure? 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09:04:24 kiuma [~kiuma@212.66.226.129] has joined #lisp 09:04:39 pjb: ? 09:04:48 oh, right 09:05:04 yes, some readers might get very very very confused 09:06:45 ghostscript: 1700 man-hours per month ... wow 09:08:29 -!- xyxxyyy [~xyxu@58.41.3.254] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:10:10 morning lispers 09:10:44 hello kiuma 09:10:46 hello maus 09:11:36 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-235.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11:45 maus: I just had a brief conversation in Vietnamese with your classmates here in Bordeaux. The mostly understood me. (Yay!) 09:12:17 nikodemus: What is that? 09:12:18 hello spiaggia! :) 09:12:44 about 10-20 programmers working on ghostscript. 09:13:17 http://sourceforge.net/blog/potm-201009/ 09:13:43 spiaggia: you are awesome! :) 09:14:42 spiaggia: how long have you been studying Vietnamese? 09:15:00 maus: Thanks, but the conversations are not terribly interesting quite yet. I have studied almost a year now. 09:15:17 H4ns` [~user@pD4B9E80A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #lisp 09:15:41 nikodemus: That is truly impressive. How hard can it be? 09:17:15 spiaggia: pretty hard, considering all the stuff they have to support. 09:17:23 the PDF and XPS specifications are huge. 09:17:53 of course, using C makes it harder. 09:17:54 spiaggia: Do you feel Vietnamese is hard to study? 09:18:58 Adamant: I guess they are big, and they change regularly as well I suppose. But yeah, C is not the right language for that. 09:19:08 -!- H4ns [~user@p579F8C49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:19:20 maus: Not particularly. It is just hard to remember all new words, 09:19:26 -!- mr5v3n is now known as ChanZ 09:19:31 spiaggia: it's definitely not right if you want to optimize for programmer time expended. 09:20:07 Adamant: And that's exactly what we (people who work on FLOSS) need to optimize for. 09:20:32 spiaggia: barring possible customer performance concerns, I agree. 09:20:46 spiaggia: i was interested to learn they sell OEM licences as well 09:20:52 (Ghostscript is also a compnay) 09:21:01 *company 09:21:40 -!- cmm [~cmm@bzq-79-181-202-240.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22:26 Well, pretty soon people (i.e. Google) will turn software like that into servers, so that it doesn't matter what language is used (while at the same time keeping a copy of all documents ever submitted). 09:22:44 mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has joined #lisp 09:23:07 spiaggia: probably, which will work great until Google shits itself for some reason :P 09:23:43 mstevens [~mstevens@89.145.84.152] has joined #lisp 09:23:43 -!- mstevens [~mstevens@89.145.84.152] has quit [Changing host] 09:23:43 mstevens [~mstevens@fsf/member/pdpc.active.mstevens] has joined #lisp 09:23:53 and/or people start caring about privacy again 09:24:20 Yeah, exciting times ahead. 09:24:43 yes, I might have to DuckDuckGo some articles on this subject. 09:24:44 spiaggia: yes, it's true.. sometimes, they are the same in writing, but have different meanings when combine with other words :) 09:24:48 (subtle plug) 09:25:48 cmm [~cmm@bzq-79-183-198-101.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #lisp 09:26:07 -!- astoon [~astoon@213.141.244.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:26:59 maus: I can deal with that. It's just the sheer amount of stuff to learn that is a problem for me. My memory has never been very great, and I can't rely on previous experience (such as knowledge of Latin-based, Germanic or Scandinavian languages) to help me. 09:27:24 spiaggia: are you trying spaced-repetition flashcard based stuff? 09:27:29 like Anki? 09:27:35 that may help. 09:27:41 Adamant: I do, but the computerized version of it. 09:27:45 right. 09:27:52 -!- neoesque [~neoesque@210.59.147.232] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:06 Anki is a piece of software that does all that. 09:28:23 Adamant: are you working on Duck? 09:28:32 I found that flashcards don't work, because I am getting a bit dyslexic over the years, and I would *think* I knew the word, and my reading the answer would confirm it, yet I was wrong. 09:28:34 jdz: no, I just like it 09:28:58 spiaggia: yes :) 09:29:04 legumbre_ [~leo@r190-135-13-139.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #lisp 09:29:51 jdz: my bit about Google shitting itself wasn't a subtle attack on Google or anything; anything that big used for long periods of time like Google runs that risk. 09:30:01 Google has good engineers 09:31:01 jdz: whatever you think about it, Google is pretty close to the information equivalent of the power grid and shits itself far less. :) 09:31:23 -!- legumbre [~leo@r190-135-85-207.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:31:44 i tried Duck for like 2 weeks, it has some nice things, but google still returns more relevant stuff when i'm looking for something 09:31:55 Krystof [~csr21@cpc2-dals3-0-0-cust1263.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 09:32:14 yeah. I'd be lying if I didn't say part of it was a general "political" stand as well. 09:32:25 but it is pretty nice overall. 09:32:26 and i have not turned on the personalized results option 09:33:50 -!- H4ns` is now known as H4ns 09:36:11 jdz: I'm just sick of articles about "mind-reading" computing technologies and other personal profiling technologies with immense potential for abuse which is more or less being ignored in pursuit of profit and selling targeted advertising, and I think a good way to avoid these things is to limit the amount of data I give people obsessed with that stuff. 09:36:46 yeah, i'm not really going to enable that thing for me :) 09:37:01 yup. :P 09:37:02 does not mean google is not watching me, anyway 09:37:06 of course. 09:37:55 "The fact that I'm paranoid does not mean the whole world is not after me." 09:38:00 I would like my universe to not resemble something out of a P.K. 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For queue operations you essentially only pay when the buffer needs to be resized. 12:45:29 schoppenhauer [~christoph@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has joined #lisp 12:45:41 incandenza [~djm@ip68-231-109-244.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lisp 12:46:40 LiamH [~healy@129-2-130-108.wireless.umd.edu] has joined #lisp 12:46:41 does someone have sbcl on snow leopard? 12:46:59 xyxxyyy [~xyxu@116.227.199.58] has joined #lisp 12:49:07 -!- Krystof [~csr21@cpc2-dals3-0-0-cust1263.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:49:39 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:49:46 nikodemus: at certain times of day I do. now is not one of those times, though. 12:50:02 I can help in 8 hours or so. 12:50:29 i once had... like 4 months ago 12:50:29 Krystof [~csr21@cpc2-dals3-0-0-cust1263.hari.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #lisp 12:50:44 ahah, no need. i was able to reproduce the issue on plain leopard 12:51:10 is plane leopard the upcoming revision of leopard? 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14:51:48 Fade: it follows the spec with regard to the allowed ordering of clauses. 14:51:55 MIT loop doesn't. 14:51:58 ah 14:52:06 and MIT loop is widely copied. 14:52:49 does MIT loop break due to clause ordering that it implicitly allows? 14:53:27 in some cases, it's stricter than the ref 14:53:41 my own loopology is usually fairly modest. 14:55:54 -!- Rearden [~John@209-217-211-155.northland.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:34 Jasko [~tjasko@c-174-59-223-208.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #lisp 14:57:38 -!- slyrus_ [~slyrus@adsl-75-36-215-204.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:58:24 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@164.164.250.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:51 Davidbrcz [~david@212-198-87-124.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #lisp 14:58:57 -!- xyxxyyy [~xyxu@116.227.199.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:59:38 pdponze [~pdponze@144.85.120.235] has joined #lisp 15:00:21 -!- puddingpimp [~dave@118-93-168-180.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:05:16 -!- bozhidar [~user@212.50.14.187] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:52 -!- b-man_ [~b-man@189.34.50.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:06:36 -!- ChanZ [mr5v3n@unaffiliated/mr5v3n] has quit [Quit:  ] 15:07:00 it's orgasmic to just look up java classes in the javadoc, look around their methods, and call anything you want willy nilly 15:07:06 amazingly convenient 15:07:13 oh, from CL 15:07:17 -!- Athas [~athas@shop3.diku.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:34 Anyway, "fcgi" breaks in clisp with a "NIL is not a number" error. 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"failed to find the TRUENAME of /tmp/opengl.lisp: No such file or directory"? 18:14:49 i have no idea why it started looking in /tmp :P 18:15:31 derrida: truename follows links, right? 18:15:53 My collegue had the same problem; restarting his inferior lisp solved the issue automagically 18:15:55 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1503031474.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:01 not really sure, these are all real files though (in my own project) 18:16:12 tcr: hm 18:16:48 -!- Xach [~xach@cpe-72-227-90-1.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:17:33 -!- Davidbrcz [~david@212-198-87-124.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:22:27 rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has joined #lisp 18:22:47 rootzlevel [~hpd@91-66-216-220-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #lisp 18:24:59 Anyone know what's up with ILC? 18:26:13 s1gma_ [~d.d.derp@77.107.164.131] has joined #lisp 18:26:41 tcr: bah, fixed through frobbing unfortunately, it wasn't 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What's wrong with this (Hunchentoot) piece of code ? http://paste.lisp.org/+2GJU 19:29:43 -!- Fullma [~fullma@ram94-2-82-66-69-246.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:29:58 fmeyer [~fmeyer@187.45.253.35] has joined #lisp 19:30:25 tritchey [~tritchey@12.43.172.41] has joined #lisp 19:32:09 prljavi_hari: Works for me. 19:32:41 I get the HTML output when visiting /index.html 19:33:07 It did works few times then it stopped 19:33:37 Works for me repeatedly. 19:34:07 prljavi_hari: What CL are you using? 19:34:12 derrida: you did C-c C-k on your .asd? 19:34:29 It seems problem is somewhere else 19:34:43 Lispworks 19:34:56 *Xach* normally wouldn't try any example that involves starting hunchentoot, but getting everything with quicklisp took 13 seconds! 19:35:17 13 seconds? that's an eternity! 19:36:13 I'll restart Windows and try again 19:39:24 mcsontos [~mcsontos@hotspot8.rywasoft.net] has joined #lisp 19:39:54 stassats: a good catch, the c-c c-k 19:39:56 -!- mega1 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[~milanj_@109-93-62-202.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #lisp 23:40:41 Xach: i'm trying to use zpng to write a pixel array i'm grabbing with cl-opengl and i'm having a little trouble figuring out what i'm doing wrong. currently, it's giving me the error that the index is too large,i started off by adapting the stream example from the docs. if you have a sec and wouldn't mind taking a look: http://paste.lisp.org/display/114769 23:41:35 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1503031474.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:42:31 *Xach* peeks 23:43:24 -!- astoon [~astoon@213.141.244.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43:57 excuse the rgba counter :) 23:44:08 derrida: what kind of object is *pixels*? 23:44:26 a giant vector of unsigned-bytes 23:44:42 derrida: how many items are in the vector? 23:44:48 4 x width x height? 23:45:13 1600 if i set it to 20 20 23:45:27 so... 4 x width x height 23:45:29 that sounds right :) 23:45:58 (yes) 23:46:00 derrida: the problem is your loop executes 1600 times, taking 4 values each time. 23:46:11 but you can only take 4 values from 1600 400 times. 23:46:19 -!- dracco235 [~andy@pool-96-224-53-152.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:46:24 dracco235 [~andy@pool-96-224-53-152.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #lisp 23:46:32 *derrida* facepalms 23:46:33 there are...other problems 23:46:44 that's the cause of the indexing issue, though. 23:46:48 -!- insomniaSalt [~milan@port-92-204-33-145.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:47:15 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #lisp 23:47:37 derrida: a PNG object has its own big unsigned-byte vector. you can get it via the IMAGE-DATA gf. you might have better performance if you can translate the png pixels into it directly. 23:47:45 insomniaSalt [~milan@port-92-204-33-145.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #lisp 23:47:59 derrida: heck, if i were you, i'd try a straight REPLACE and see what happens. there might be alignment and ordering issues, but it would be interesting. 23:48:15 sorry, "translate the GL pixels" 23:48:35 hmm 23:48:45 that might be good because reading the pixels this way is really slow :) 23:49:12 -!- kjbrock [~kevin@173-11-106-193-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has left #lisp 23:49:38 *Xach* doesn't doubt it 23:49:59 -!- aidalgol [~user@202.36.179.68] has quit [Quit: class] 23:50:19 -!- rrice [~rrice@adsl-76-253-135-9.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:50:22 rrice1 [~rrice@adsl-76-253-135-9.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lisp 23:50:38 -!- Patzy [~something@coa29-1-88-174-11-170.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:51:12 timack [~tim@hlfx62-1-77.ns.sympatico.ca] has joined #lisp 23:52:09 -!- rrice1 [~rrice@adsl-76-253-135-9.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:54:18 derrida: if you make any cool pngs, show me! 23:54:47 i certainly will :D 23:55:36 -!- mrSpec [~Spec@unaffiliated/mrspec] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:56:38 -!- 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