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I am not at all familiar with the way things used to be, but the wrappers around qt have done quite a lot to insulate the programmer from some of the more expected memory management handling cases that are commonly encountered... and alternatively, what is it about the racket environment that makes it so easy to develop a cross platform ide in the first place 2017-03-30T21:35:28Z rumbler31: ? or is it really the case that a lack of a gui ide isn't really such an impediment? 2017-03-30T23:19:50Z pjb joined #ccl 2017-03-30T23:52:43Z rumbler3_ joined #ccl 2017-03-31T00:00:20Z mrottenkolber quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2017-03-31T00:07:23Z rumbler3_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2017-03-31T00:20:08Z sjl quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-03-31T00:31:44Z rme joined #ccl 2017-03-31T01:31:50Z brucem quit (Changing host) 2017-03-31T01:31:50Z brucem joined #ccl 2017-03-31T02:07:54Z rumbler3_ joined #ccl 2017-03-31T02:12:05Z rumbler3_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-03-31T02:48:28Z pjb quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-03-31T03:13:57Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2017-03-31T04:16:46Z rumbler3_ joined #ccl 2017-03-31T06:35:22Z rumbler3_ quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2017-03-31T07:28:30Z milanj joined #ccl 2017-03-31T07:36:05Z rumbler3_ joined #ccl 2017-03-31T07:37:49Z hhdave joined #ccl 2017-03-31T07:41:33Z rumbler3_ quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-03-31T07:42:18Z hhdave quit (Client Quit) 2017-03-31T07:59:22Z hhdave joined #ccl 2017-03-31T08:00:37Z pjb joined #ccl 2017-03-31T08:09:27Z milanj quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2017-03-31T08:31:30Z mrottenkolber joined #ccl 2017-03-31T09:09:34Z milanj joined #ccl 2017-03-31T09:21:49Z mrottenkolber: Sad to hear rme will not be at ELS, was looking forward to chat about CCL. Will anyone else from CCL come by? 2017-03-31T09:37:59Z milanj quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2017-03-31T11:24:30Z milanj joined #ccl 2017-03-31T11:34:47Z pjb: Unfortunately, I won't. 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