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has quit [Quit: rme] 03:59:05 consolers [walker@59.92.66.98] has joined #ccl 03:59:13 gb why are you so resistant to adopting satan? I really don't get it. 04:02:08 i guess there is no chance that ccl will move from using svn 04:02:14 as a means of delivery 04:02:37 -!- consolers [walker@59.92.66.98] has left #ccl 05:28:48 -!- DataLinkD2 [~DataLinkD@1.145.22.252] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:47:13 -!- kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:49:34 kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #ccl 07:57:58 -!- lacedaemon [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:58:07 fe[nl]ix [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has joined #ccl 08:10:12 what's satan? 08:53:06 -!- pirateking-_- [~piratekin@unaffiliated/pirateking---/x-2885143] has quit [Quit: pirateking-_-] 09:01:54 -!- asedeno_work [asedeno@nat/google/x-vmfqidxryrwzsdgw] has quit [*.net *.split] 09:01:54 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@CPE-121-217-241-27.lnse3.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [*.net *.split] 09:01:54 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@CPE-121-217-241-27.lnse3.cht.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ccl 09:02:01 asedeno_work [asedeno@nat/google/session] has joined #ccl 10:12:47 -!- asedeno_work [asedeno@nat/google/session] has quit [Changing host] 10:12:47 asedeno_work [asedeno@nat/google/x-yallpzhsnugrklfx] has joined #ccl 11:57:42 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@CPE-121-217-241-27.lnse3.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 12:08:32 rme [~rme@50.43.140.165] has joined #ccl 12:26:51 -!- kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:29:04 kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #ccl 13:11:08 -!- rme [rme@39136D57.2D6491A5.699BA7A6.IP] has quit [Quit: rme] 13:11:09 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.140.165] has quit [Quit: rme] 13:44:00 PuffTheMagic [u3325@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jmjkbtrltfjexcnc] has joined #ccl 13:44:28 is there a way to get linedit to work with ccl? 13:44:45 or is there some other equivalent that works with ccl 13:48:44 rlwrap 13:49:58 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 13:54:12 ya i know of rlwrap, was hoping for something that provided completions too 13:54:27 why doesnt ccl use realine natively 13:54:39 s/realine/readline 13:55:05 PuffTheMagic: readline is gpl code, so that may be one reason. 13:55:39 what the ccl license? 13:56:07 PuffTheMagic: you'll find out that using emacs or an ide around any lisp is preferable to a sophisticated line editor 13:56:27 PuffTheMagic: http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/License (llgpl) 13:58:04 H4ns: i cant seem to get my self to fully embrace emacs, I wish there was something like the LW ide that worked with ccl 13:58:35 PuffTheMagic: if you want an ide, lispworks is probably the best way to go. 13:59:01 PuffTheMagic: What OS are you on? There is a CCL IDE. Not at the level of LW, but more users would encourage more improvements. 13:59:18 i go between linux and osx 13:59:33 osx on the latop, linux on the desktop 14:00:03 The CCL IDE is available in the Mac App Store (or you can build it yourself, of course) 14:01:30 does the app store ide come with the dx86cl bins as well? 14:02:12 PuffTheMagic: You mean the 32-bit ones specifically? It does include bins, but I'm not sure if it's 32- or 64-bit. 14:02:50 no i just mean can i remove the ccl install i had previously 14:02:52 or is it just the gui 14:04:05 Oh, but I'm not sure if you can run the version in the IDE app without the GUI. There's a bug for that  I'm looking for it. 14:04:30 But you don't need CCL installed separately to use the GUI, for sure. Does that make sense? 14:04:52 that makes sense 14:04:56 i see /Applications/Clozure\ CL.app/Contents/MacOS/dx86cl64 14:05:14 i still use lisp from the command line sometimes 14:05:24 Yeah, this is the bug: http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/ticket/956 14:05:52 PuffTheMagic: you can also start the ide from your installed osx ccl 14:06:00 PuffTheMagic: (require 'cocoa) is all you need. 14:06:03 Reported by me. rme has at least commented (but apparently not on the ticket) that it would be good to implement that. 14:06:23 doh! 14:06:36 now I wish i didnt delete my install 14:06:38 (if i'm not entirely mistaken or the appstore version has some awesome sauce with it) 14:06:43 PuffTheMagic: Yeah, what H4ns said  and that'll also generate a .app bundle that you can use directly thereafter. 14:06:52 :/ 14:06:54 H4ns: Nope, no extra awesomesauce. 14:07:03 damit! 14:07:04 lol 14:07:09 PuffTheMagic: Sorry :/ 14:07:16 naa thats cool 14:07:19 download is quick 14:09:54 PuffTheMagic: And when you build it yourself, its easier to stay on the cutting edge and submit patches :D 14:10:16 on gentoo i build it 14:10:25 tend not to bother on osx 14:11:02 is the gui cocoa only? 14:11:49 PuffTheMagic: Yep, Cocoa only. It uses Cocotron on Windows with some success, but I don't know about Cocotron/Linux. 14:15:48 rme [~rme@50.43.140.165] has joined #ccl 14:19:04 so I see it makes the tmp bundle 14:19:12 how to I get to me non-temp 14:20:02 -!- jdz [~jdz@85.254.212.247] has quit [Quit: Byebye.]