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with slime 03:31:02 anyone here that experience the same problem ? 03:31:14 Im on a mac 03:31:59 What version of SLIME, what version of CCL, and what are the warnings about ? 03:32:09 I'm using slime, but not the cvs version. 03:32:58 IIIRC, there have been some recent cvs slime changes that introduced some problems. 03:33:57 Im using a 1day old slime cvs version and ccl 1.2 cvs version 03:34:03 perhaps 2 day old cvs 03:34:23 I can post the warnings etc, hang on 03:35:21 http://paste.lisp.org/display/66429 03:43:49 is the error something new ? 03:44:41 Well, STREAM-FILE-POSITION isn't an external symbol in CCL (or an internal symbol, for that matter), and hasn't been in any CCL version that I can find. or in svn/cvs history going back to 2003, as far as I can tell. So I'd guess that that's a problem in newer versions of SLIME. 03:45:02 aha :S 03:46:03 If you can catch segv (Marco Baringer) here, he may know what's going on there. 03:46:23 oki, will do =) 03:46:25 thanks 03:47:01 I wonder if it would work if you change stream-file-position to stream-position. 03:47:54 in swank-openmcl.lisp? 03:49:41 It's probably best to get some slime hacker to look at it anyway. 03:49:52 yes 03:51:21 thanks for the help :) 03:51:25 -!- denatus [n=denatus@084202166205.customer.alfanett.no] has quit ["zzz now for real"] 05:43:45 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-86-106.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 07:48:13 mikesch [n=axel@xdsl-87-78-7-201.netcologne.de] has joined #ccl 11:59:31 denatus [n=denatus@084202166205.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #ccl 11:59:58 segv: Are you here ? 12:01:57 H4ns [n=Hans@p57BBA181.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 12:10:37 denatus: yup. 12:11:25 segv: Hi, I have some problems with ccl and slime. And someone here pointed me to ask you about the errors Im getting. 12:12:16 So, Im going to ask to ask :) Could you have a look at the error/warnings Im getting ? 12:12:22 saw the paste. 12:12:31 gimme a second and i'll see what's up 12:12:35 ah, great 12:14:43 so, in the short term comment out line 207 of swank-backend.lisp 12:14:59 slime thinks stream-file-position is part of the gray stream protocol. ccl disagrees. 12:15:08 ah, hehe 12:15:26 ok Ill do that 12:17:21 there we go, it starts 12:18:11 -!- H4ns1 [n=Hans@p57BBA0C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:19:27 Thanks alot segv 12:19:33 np. 12:19:52 i'm talking to tcr now and i'll see if my simple "we don't use it so don't try to import it" patch is the right thing to do. 12:25:40 I couldnt find anything on google about my issue, is it something new in SLIME ? 12:25:56 yeah, that code is very recent (this week i believe) 12:26:19 ok 12:27:55 The closest thing that there is to a reference for the Gray stream protocol (AFAIK) is in ftp://clozure.com/pub/stream-definition-by-user.mail. That doesn't seem to define any generic function for getting/setting a stream's position. CCL defines CCL::STREAM-POSITION, but doesn't export it or document it in detail. 12:30:47 there's a mail on slime-devel yesterday saying the symbol had been removed. but the actualy change didn't appear in CVS. 12:31:05 (removed from the lisp of symbols slime tries to import) 13:12:55 if foo names a class is there a case where (typep x 'foo) and (typep x (find-class 'foo)) are allowed to differ? 13:13:28 this paste shows that on ccl, for classes of type funcallable-standard-class, they seem to: CL-USER> (test) 13:13:28 NIL 13:13:28 NIL 13:13:28 T 13:13:32 oops. 13:13:40 http://private.clozure.com/paste/?page=view&id=1220793082 13:18:34 see http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/ticket/329 13:36:42 gbyers: awesome. 14:34:56 segv_ [n=mb@p4FC1C8EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 14:34:58 -!- segv_ [n=mb@p4FC1C8EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:35:18 -!- segv [n=mb@p4FC1DE0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:36:30 segv [n=mb@p4FC1C8EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 18:35:24 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 18:52:27 alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 18:52:31 -!- mikesch [n=axel@xdsl-87-78-7-201.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:56:29 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:25:58 -!- denatus [n=denatus@084202166205.customer.alfanett.no] has quit ["leaving"] 21:48:29 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-86-106.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 03:41:15 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-86-106.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 06:11:13 mikesch [n=axel@xdsl-87-78-59-254.netcologne.de] has joined #ccl 06:29:38 -!- lynx` [n=lynx@pool-96-232-159-170.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["..."] 06:30:50 -!- mikesch [n=axel@xdsl-87-78-59-254.netcologne.de] has quit [] 06:46:49 mikesch [n=axel@xdsl-87-78-59-254.netcologne.de] has joined #ccl 06:47:52 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-86-106.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 06:50:18 -!- mikesch [n=axel@xdsl-87-78-59-254.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 07:45:48 mikesch [n=axel@tmo-104-2.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #ccl 07:47:50 H4ns1 [n=hans@p57A0DC4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 07:56:00 -!- H4ns [n=Hans@p57BBA181.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:56:04 -!- H4ns1 is now known as H4ns 07:57:00 H4ns1 [n=Hans@p57BBA181.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 08:03:59 -!- mikesch [n=axel@tmo-104-2.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [] 08:31:29 mikesch [n=axel@static-87-79-66-80.netcologne.de] has joined #ccl 09:08:20 -!- mikesch [n=axel@static-87-79-66-80.netcologne.de] has quit [] 09:11:53 mikesch [n=axel@static-87-79-66-80.netcologne.de] has joined #ccl 09:13:00 -!- mikesch [n=axel@static-87-79-66-80.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:02:15 H4ns2 [n=Hans@p57BB9BB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 12:20:14 -!- H4ns1 [n=Hans@p57BBA181.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:57:57 billstclai [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 13:59:08 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:59:33 -!- billstclai is now known as billstclair 14:32:55 -!- segv [n=mb@p4FC1C8EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:33:14 segv [n=mb@p4FC1F2A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 15:30:35 -!- chandler is now known as wanegknea 15:30:54 -!- wanegknea is now known as chandler 15:54:32 billstclai [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 15:55:38 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:56:00 -!- billstclai is now known as billstclair 16:58:49 -!- segv [n=mb@p4FC1F2A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:58:54 segv_ [n=mb@p4FC1EE14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 21:18:40 milanj [n=milan@93.86.56.252] has joined #ccl 21:32:41 sellout- [n=greg@63.107.91.105] has joined #ccl 21:35:52 -!- sellout- [n=greg@63.107.91.105] has quit [Client Quit] 22:25:10 -!- milanj [n=milan@93.86.56.252] has left #ccl 22:25:31 milanj [n=milan@93.86.56.252] has joined #ccl 22:45:03 gonzojive [n=red@adsl-99-175-100-82.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 22:45:37 anyone have ideas for getting Lisp on an iPhone? 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18:27:58 denatus: Nope. 18:28:14 But, it's been a while since I've used the bridge. Should remedy that. 18:32:22 ok 18:32:30 then its probably something wrong Im doing 18:32:35 Im trying to compile my code in slime 18:32:54 alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 18:39:08 denatus: There's always lisppaste 18:39:10 lisppaste5: help 18:39:10 To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/ccl and enter your paste. 18:39:33 Will do =) 18:40:15 http://paste.lisp.org/display/66534 18:40:36 Its inspired by the tutorial for the converter 18:42:05 What's wrong with the surrounding DEFCLASS form ? 18:45:10 Im not sure: http://paste.lisp.org/display/66544 18:46:54 What Im not sure about is if its because my .nib file has something to do with it or not 18:56:37 No, but it might have to do with what package you're in, and whether DEFCLASS is CL:DEFCLASS or RANDOM-PACKAGE::DEFCLASS. 18:57:04 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [] 19:08:21 Im in my own package, but I have :use :ccl 19:08:26 I can try CL:DEFCLASS 19:08:38 billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 19:08:58 when I use cl:defclass I get the same error 19:14:27 did you :use "CL" also? 19:23:33 Im using: (:use :CL-USER :CCL)) 19:25:15 denatus: You probably want :CL instead of :CL-USER. Does :CL-USER export anything? 19:25:44 I've normally used :common-lisp 19:25:52 denatus: Same as :CL 19:26:18 I just tried :CL, got the same errror 19:28:30 I started a fresh lisp, did (require 'cocoa), and evaluated your defclass form. It worked. 19:32:34 I just noticed that I got all sorts of different errors now 19:32:44 Im going to start a fresh lisp 19:33:47 yep, it compiled now 19:34:22 I wonder what was wrong 19:38:19 http://www.flownet.com/gat/packages.pdf might be worth a read. 19:40:05 but I havent changed anything, my package code works 19:40:21 Im using (:use :common-lisp :ccl) now 19:51:47 -!- gonzojive_ [n=red@adsl-99-175-100-82.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:52:21 gonzojive [n=red@adsl-99-175-100-82.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 19:54:48 -!- gonzojive [n=red@adsl-99-175-100-82.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:54:58 gonzojive [n=red@adsl-99-175-100-82.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 19:55:14 alms_ [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 19:55:21 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 104 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We're looking into redesigning the look of the whole site. 13:14:42 sellout- [n=greg@63.107.91.105] has joined #ccl 13:35:40 I'd appreciate if someone could checkout latest slime and try (break) at the REPL. 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I could do a check tho, all tho I belive my code could be slow and, not pretty ;P 21:43:12 I think there's a way to timeout waiting to read input; it may be that it's documented only for sockets. 21:43:48 Do you think it would work for any function ? 21:45:40 seems like it only works with streams 21:45:42 http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2005-09/msg01075.html 21:45:49 that might be helpful 21:47:55 I note that the sleep() takes a real argument: 21:47:56 http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_sleep.htm 21:48:23 so you could tune the function a bit. 21:49:38 ah, thanks, I'll have a look 21:49:47 You might be able to hack up something gross something up with process-wait-with-timeout. 21:52:19 denatus: trivial-timeout 21:53:29 http://common-lisp.net/project/trivial-timeout/ 21:58:48 sellout- [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 22:01:09 awesome! 22:01:44 thanks alot 22:09:58 I bette go to bed 22:10:03 better* 22:10:12 later people 22:10:15 -!- denatus [n=denatus@084202166205.customer.alfanett.no] has quit ["leaving"] 22:10:16 goodnight! 23:25:04 -!- mdc [n=mdc@ds9.entity.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:25:16 mdc___ [n=mdc@ds9.entity.com] has joined #ccl 23:29:49 -!- milanj [n=milan@77.46.224.212] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:36:14 -!- sellout- [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:37:20 sellout- [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:07:07 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-104-97-50.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 01:30:26 rme [n=rme@pool-70-104-97-50.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 04:36:26 -!- jajcloz [n=jaj@209-6-216-149.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 05:42:31 milanj [n=milan@77.46.224.212] has joined #ccl 05:50:43 -!- milanj [n=milan@77.46.224.212] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:47:20 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-104-97-50.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 07:49:26 H4ns [n=Hans@p57BBA0AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ccl 11:56:01 -!- sellout- [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 12:25:01 anRch [n=markmill@m135a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ccl 12:33:58 -!- billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [] 12:46:20 jajcloz [n=jaj@209-6-216-149.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 12:47:00 -!- anRch [n=markmill@m135a36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:48:01 billstclair [n=billstcl@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 12:55:23 anRch [n=markmill@m245a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ccl 12:55:29 sellout- [n=greg@63.107.91.105] has joined #ccl 13:12:05 -!- mdc___ [n=mdc@ds9.entity.com] has quit [verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 13:12:43 mdc___ [n=mdc@ds9.entity.com] has joined #ccl 13:49:45 -!- anRch [n=markmill@m245a36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [] 13:54:58 mcb30: why aren't you answering your cell phone? :) 14:20:11 anRch [n=markmill@m185a36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ccl 14:47:19 -!- mdc___ [n=mdc@ds9.entity.com] has quit [] 14:54:52 mdc [n=mdc@ds9.entity.com] has joined #ccl 15:08:29 -!- segv [n=mb@p4FC1FB50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:09:48 segv [n=mb@p4FC1F593.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 16:23:17 -!- anRch [n=markmill@m185a36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [] 16:27:00 -!- lisppaste5 [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 17:08:47 rme [n=rme@pool-70-104-97-50.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 17:12:11 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 18:18:47 alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 18:23:32 milanj [n=milan@77.46.224.212] has joined #ccl 18:24:03 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 18:46:21 alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 20:28:28 H4ns2 [n=hans@p57A0F77A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 20:40:41 -!- jajcloz [n=jaj@209-6-216-149.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 20:47:59 -!- H4ns1 [n=hans@p57A0FA83.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:54:54 lisppaste5 [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #ccl 20:56:13 -!- sellout- [n=greg@63.107.91.105] has quit [] 21:00:22 -!- lisppaste5 [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit ["Want lisppaste5 in your channel? 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It's customizable, though. 20:14:34 alms_ [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 20:14:34 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:27:54 H4ns2 [n=hans@p57A0FDC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ccl 20:34:24 -!- H4ns1 [n=hans@p57A0E4B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:35:50 alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 20:35:50 -!- alms_ [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:51:16 denatus [n=denatus@084202166205.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #ccl 21:53:07 Have anyone here tried the trivial-timeout library ? It wont build properly for me 21:58:56 l haven't, no. Were you asking about I/O timeouts the other day ? 22:05:27 Yea I was 22:05:39 I'm trying to use trivial-timeout 22:05:51 its not quite IO timeout, as the function is a C function, not a lisp one 22:06:18 using termios.h to open a serial port to communicate with it, so Im writing a serial library for lisp 22:07:32 http://paste.lisp.org/display/67099 22:09:12 hm, the two or three last lines there are from my own code trying to use the library 22:16:59 I could probably write something similar using ccl:process-wait-with-timeout 22:18:43 PROCESS-WAIT-WITH-TIMEOUT is kind of an anachronism. There are functions that check whether input or output is available on a file descriptor within a specified number of milliseconds; the stream timeout code uses them. 22:27:31 ah ok 22:27:56 But I just found the bug in the trivial-timeout library, and I think I fixed it 22:28:17 OK; that'd make your code more portable, certainly. 22:34:20 using the trivial-timeout library or the file descriptor you suggested ? 22:34:41 Using the library would be more portable. 22:38:44 ok, thanks 22:57:22 Yea, I fixed it. 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(I maunally did (rebuild-ccl :full t) after updates were downloaded, and all seems to have gone well) 19:03:16 gz_ [n=gz@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 19:39:38 -!- gz_ [n=gz@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 19:48:07 mdc__: after doing (rebuild-ccl :full t) it is necessary to quit and restart your current lisp to start using the new bits. 20:30:41 -!- sellout- [n=greg@guest-fw.dc4.itasoftware.com] has quit [] 21:14:58 sellout- [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 21:38:39 -!- alms [n=alms@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 22:07:43 -!- H4ns3 [n=hans@p57A0FF74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:28:28 is there a known problem with hunchentoot and ccl, i'm getting value NIL is not of the expected type SIMPLE-VECTOR 22:29:01 trying to load hnchentoot default page 22:49:08 alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 23:00:19 -!- rme 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Verizon probably backhauls my DSL traffic to Chicago, but I live in northeast Ohio. 18:15:16 Ah, OK. 18:16:30 stassats: about all you can do at this point is type B to get a kernel backtrace, and report a bug. 18:16:39 rme: ok 18:17:22 stassats: does the lisp start up at all, or does it crash when you're trying to do something? 18:17:48 rme: it crashes at start-up 18:19:27 does your hardware support sse2? 18:19:38 (I don't know if we check for that...) 18:20:01 yes 18:20:35 top function in bt is (:INTERNAL REVIVE-SHARED-LIBRARIES) 18:21:04 -!- anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx09269.readima.wayport.net] has quit [] 18:22:04 Anyway, http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/ticket/334 is a good example bug report, if you would be so kind as to make a trac ticket for the problem. 18:22:27 rme: i'm already filling it 18:22:34 thank you 18:28:23 here it is http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/ticket/338 18:54:11 alms [n=alms@146-115-31-121.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 19:40:03 -!- H4ns 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