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2014-10-10T10:06:26Z hlavaty: hi, would it be possible to make ccl run under wine?
2014-10-10T10:12:42Z pjb: Why not? Did you try it?
2014-10-10T10:13:21Z hlavaty: if i did i would not be asking
2014-10-10T10:13:35Z pjb: I would assume it works.
2014-10-10T10:14:15Z hlavaty: it doesnt -> VirtualProtect spjump: 0x57 Invalid parameter.
2014-10-10T10:15:00Z hlavaty: ah i misunderstood; i though you meant did you try changing it to work with wine :-)
2014-10-10T10:17:08Z pjb: No, I was saying try to run it under wine.
2014-10-10T10:17:34Z hlavaty: yes, understand; it doesnt run under wine, see the error above
2014-10-10T10:17:54Z pjb: There's a _spjump macro in the sources of ccl, but I'm not sure this error message refers to it. It might be a spjump in wine.  One would have to find what 0x57 invalid parameter means.
2014-10-10T10:19:13Z pjb: IIRC, ccl doesn't do anything too evil with memory (contrarily to sbcl).  I may be wrong.  But if not, it shouldn't be too hard to solve this problem.
2014-10-10T10:19:26Z hlavaty: yeah, i was hoping to hear some opinion on that from people who actually do ccl internal stuff
2014-10-10T10:19:36Z pjb: They'll be here later.
2014-10-10T10:19:56Z hlavaty: ok, i'll try later; thanks!
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2014-10-10T13:45:20Z billstclair: hlavaty: rme may be able to answer your question about  your error running CCL in Wine.
2014-10-10T13:45:21Z billstclair: "VirtualProtect spjump: 0x57 Invalid parameter."
2014-10-10T13:46:42Z billstclair: or gbyers
2014-10-10T13:47:02Z billstclair: But he was here when you asked, so may be sleeping
2014-10-10T13:54:07Z rme: hlavaty: see https://lists.clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/2013-July/010183.html
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2014-10-10T14:15:16Z hlavaty: billstclair rme: thank you, i'll have a look
2014-10-10T14:16:07Z billstclair: Seems that neither rme nor gbyers are paying attention right now
2014-10-10T14:18:13Z hlavaty: billstclair: rme gave me https://lists.clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/2013-July/010183.html i think you were away or had network issue
2014-10-10T14:18:51Z billstclair: Ah. I was offline
2014-10-10T14:19:05Z billstclair: My Mac froze and I had to reboot
2014-10-10T14:19:51Z billstclair: Thank you rme
2014-10-10T14:20:40Z billstclair: Seems we've known about that problem for a long time. Looks like a work-around would be a big project. And I guess Wine hasn't yet fixed their bug.
2014-10-10T14:32:54Z brucem: hlavaty: I've had good luck talking to some of the WINE people before in their IRC channel.
2014-10-10T14:33:08Z brucem: hlavaty: and they've got some tools that can help track things down a bit further, IIRC
2014-10-10T14:33:39Z hlavaty: brucem: thanks, i might try that
2014-10-10T14:34:31Z brucem: hlavaty: IIRC, in my case, it ended up being that I had stuff that needed dbghelp.dll which just wasn't implemented at all and is largely undocumented by MS ... so I was out of luck as I didn't have the time to invest.
2014-10-10T14:37:00Z hlavaty: brucem: last time something didnt work for me under wine, it was enough to upgrade wine; but i think this situation is different;  somehow sbcl runs under wine so they probably dont rely on that trick with ro memory specified by linker
2014-10-10T14:37:37Z brucem: hlavaty: *nod* ... well, assume the best of them until they prove you wrong! :)
2014-10-10T14:37:45Z hlavaty: :-)
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