00:32:33 sesuncedu1 [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 00:34:12 -!- sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:01:28 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:57:09 -!- jimmy99 [~bonsai@65.111.78.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:16:28 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 05:05:21 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-bpoaddpflmawqmxw] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:19:12 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 05:23:51 -!- Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:35:31 -!- erikc [~erikc@CPE00222d53fe78-CM00222d53fe75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: erikc] 06:49:34 -!- sesuncedu1 [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:32:13 sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 12:13:43 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:14:18 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 14:16:33 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:19:05 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 14:26:35 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 14:42:51 bhyde [~bhyde@50.12.146.82] has joined #ccl 14:43:46 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@50.12.146.82] has quit [Client Quit] 14:49:39 bhyde [~bhyde@50.12.146.82] has joined #ccl 14:49:39 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@50.12.146.82] has quit [Client Quit] 15:07:32 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 15:57:49 erikc [~erikc@CPE00222d53fe78-CM00222d53fe75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ccl 16:02:23 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 16:07:16 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 16:32:45 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 16:41:32 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:44:22 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 16:55:00 -!- sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:59:27 sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 17:03:37 -!- erikc [~erikc@CPE00222d53fe78-CM00222d53fe75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: erikc] 17:41:52 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 17:43:15 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 18:06:24 -!- sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:11:26 sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 18:13:14 -!- sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:25:26 dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 18:25:36 erikc [~erikc@CPE00222d53fe78-CM00222d53fe75.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ccl 18:26:52 hello. I have a question about using CCL to make Windows EXE's. up to know I've been using Wine and SBCL.EXE to make EXE's of my games for distribution on Windows. However I've encountered a bug with SBCL on 64-bit windows that makes the game crash with a segfault 18:27:04 and i'm wondering if building with CCL might be a better solution, assuming I can do that with CCL 18:27:29 do you think it's realistic? (a friend of mine got my game working fine with CCL so i don't htink it should be too hard to try) 18:31:11 dto: Sure, I think it's realistic. CCL is supported on Windows. 18:31:48 If you need help, I'm often here, or you can use the openmcl-devel mailing list. 18:31:52 now what will be tricky is building them with Wine so that i never have to involve real Windows. 18:32:03 rme: lovely. thanks :) 18:32:08 btw would you like to see what it is? 18:32:24 I don't know what issues you'll run into trying to use Wine. 18:32:38 that part isn't crucial 18:33:25 The question is not whether ccl is supported on ms-windows, but rather how many sbclisms you've used in your application. 18:33:32 dto: I've been keeping an eye on your games. 18:33:41 If you've only written conforming code, using portability libraries, it should be doable. 18:33:51 hey pjb . no i'm pretty sure it'll be very simple. 18:34:59 rme: oh cool ok. yeah i'm excited that the newest got some exposure (and that made it more important for me to find a way to make a proper windows version that works for everyone) 18:35:35 i'll be back in a few minutes. 18:41:31 rme: is it wiser to just make a single win32 binary and distribute that, or should i make separate win32/win64 binaries 18:42:02 i could just distribute the ccl one as a 64bit windows version that you can run if the other fails 18:42:33 If a 32-bit binary is sufficient, I'd just distribute that. (The 32-bit CCL runs on both 32-bit and 64-bit Windows.) 18:42:50 okay. second question, 18:43:35 what is the equivalent function to dump the EXE? to sb-ext:save-lisp-and-die https://github.com/dto/blocky/blob/master/build-unix.lisp 18:45:16 Something like (save-application "2x0ng.exe" :prepend-kernel t :application-type :gui :toplevel-function 'whatever) 18:45:50 ok it doesn't work under Wine. VirtualProtect spjump: 0x57 Invalid parameter. 18:45:57 The manual is http://ccl.clozure.com/ccl-documentation.html; it has a section about save-application. 18:46:00 will try on a windows laptop in a little bit. 18:46:03 oh, thank you :) 18:46:42 It might not be 100% up-to-date for Windows. 18:46:44 dto: I use Didiers CLON library to abstract stuff like command-line options and dumping an image across implementations. 19:12:46 -!- dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:47 dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 19:17:49 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 19:52:03 rme: got ccl working on a windows laptop with quicklisp, will try to build a bit later. i'll keep you posted. thanks 19:52:19 Good luck. 20:40:49 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:45:44 Fare [~fare@173-9-65-97-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #ccl 20:58:45 sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-90-138.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 21:09:37 rme: :application-type or :application-class 21:10:03 in any case, the binary i made just quits without doing anything. 21:10:10 is :gui the right thing? i use opengl 21:15:28 https://github.com/dto/blocky/blob/master/build-ccl.lisp 21:15:42 here's the script i'm using. it appears to succeed and creates an exe, but the exe doesn't do anything. 21:15:49 no output, nothing 21:17:13 oh i have another issue. i'll get back to you. 21:33:29 -!- dto [~user@pool-96-252-62-13.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:13 sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 22:20:50 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.147.85.30] has joined #ccl 22:37:28 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 23:12:45 http://bitcoin.org/dos 23:18:56 oops wrong channel 23:20:32 -!- sellout- [~Adium@c-98-245-90-138.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:30:17 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.147.85.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:36:55 -!- bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: bhyde] 23:37:46 -!- sesuncedu [~Adium@cpe-076-182-016-061.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:40:33 bhyde [~bhyde@c-24-61-81-138.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl