01:02:12 H4ns: just setting up raspberry pi now. 01:10:25 -!- sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:16:14 sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 01:38:36 -!- pirateking-_- [~piratekin@c-67-169-182-169.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pirateking-_-] 01:39:34 rme [~rme@50.43.145.91] has joined #ccl 01:41:15 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.150.181.215] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:35:55 -!- sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:40:54 sellout42 [~Adium@c-98-245-92-119.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 02:51:33 dented42 [~dented42@c-98-202-104-182.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 03:42:35 ddp [~ddp@71.92.93.45] has joined #ccl 03:59:12 -!- rme [~rme@50.43.145.91] has quit [Quit: rme] 04:13:52 DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.150.181.215] has joined #ccl 04:28:58 -!- ddp [~ddp@71.92.93.45] has quit [Quit: ddp] 05:49:56 my build failed again, with theinclude path problem that i've seen before (http://paste.lisp.org/display/131553#2) 05:58:18 consolers [Donahue@59.92.47.94] has joined #ccl 06:05:05 -!- consolers [Donahue@59.92.47.94] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:16:02 That looks like another issue. You likely don't have /usr/include/sys, /usr/include/gnu, and some other directories that the host C compiler doesn't look in. 06:20:52 sorry; actually it's this C compiler (xgcc, which will be ffigen) which is looking for those directories instead of The New Secret Places that're used because the old places made too much sense. 06:21:56 they're in /usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ 06:23:12 i guess i can somehow try to link them to /usr/include/sys, but that seems not very sustainable and will also result in conflicts for some files (i.e. a.out.h) 06:23:21 Obviously. Where else ? 06:24:10 all in that arm-linux-gnueabihf subdirectory 06:24:34 Probably better to find a way to convince this gcc to look in the magic places. 06:27:15 Someone at Debian is undoubtedly proud of this New Order. I'd hate to be the one that has to tell them that hard-float vs soft-float doesn't affect much of anything except for some generated code. 06:28:56 hm. some people downright refuse to use debian and i'm kind of sympathetic. but still, it'd be good to be able to use the standard distribution for the pi. 06:29:27 do you have an idea where that extra path could be put so that it goes from the configure run all into the generated makefiles? 06:29:54 i can certainly hack it into the configure output now and restart the make to see if it passes then, but again, that'd be hard to repeat 06:31:34 I'm fairly sure that such a thing exists; I'd have to think about where to put it. One option: there's a compiler-specific header-file directory (selected at this point via -B/some/place), and if there's no better way the Makefile could create links in there to the magic subdirectories. 06:34:01 for now, i'll just symlink the directory to /usr/local/armv6l-unknown-linux-gnu/include which does not exist but is on the include path for the build as it is now 06:34:24 Probably reasonable. 06:36:12 -!- DataLinkDroid [~DataLinkD@1.150.181.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:37:18 ok, now i'm back to the "processor does not support ARM mode" problem: http://paste.lisp.org/display/131553#3 06:40:18 As far as I know, those aren't ARM mnemonics. 06:43:11 (aren't any flavor of ARM mnemonics). This all probably means that I should build from a newer GCC that understands the new multiarch magic and realizes that ARMv6 has a more modern FPU than whatever that is. That's worth doing, but will likely take a while. 06:45:55 ok, so that means i'll have no ffigen for that while, right? 06:48:01 You could build it as a cross-compiler, or on an ARMv7, but I doubt if I can fix whatever's going on as quickly as I'd first hoped. 06:50:05 i received this cortex-a8 fpga board yesterday and wanted to play with that anyway, so i'll try to build ffigen there once i got something other than busybox running on it. 06:50:18 (a zedboard, to be specific) 06:54:40 If you have the option to install something other than the latest Debian (sid/wheezy) on it, that'd be good. I -think- that Ubuntu 12.04 is also free of this nonsense. 06:55:24 Yes, it still has /usr/include/sys, as god intended. 06:55:45 _first_ i need to install this monstrous fpga development software so that i can create the configuration bitstream that i need to build the boot loader and so on .... 06:55:48 :) 06:56:12 but i'll try installing ubunto and see how i can go from there. 06:57:35 Good luck. On ubuntu 12.04/ARMv7, it's just 'make'. If I build on Ubuntu - even if I target ARMv6 - some of the C startup code is ARMv7-specific. 06:58:28 ok, but the cdb files should work on ARMv6 provided i've got reasonably similar header files on the ARMv7 box, right? 06:59:48 Yes. (There's nothing different about the .h files - unless they contain inline assembler - either. The only issue is that "eabi" stuff, which affects structures that contain 64-bit fields (like double-floats), and the Makefile should select that. 07:01:28 Okay, thank you so far. 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