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23:04:37 <dented42> will the garbage collector handle cocoa objects? or will I need to retain and release those?
23:54:45 <pjb> The later. Notably, Apple removed support for GC. They had it briefly, but no more.
23:54:52 <pjb> I don't know why, GC works nicely in lisp.
23:54:59 <pjb> and a lot of other programming languages.
23:55:59 <pjb> I use a wrapper class that does the retaining/releaseing and that has #+ccl (defmethod ccl:terminate ((self wrapper)) (setf (handle self) nil)) ; to release when the wrapper is GC'ed.
23:57:27 <pjb> See http://fossil.informatimago.com/patchwork/artifact/3ef718a073ff2c19ae6e453579e92ad1009d2172