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17:52:47 SBCL has ~/.sbcl/systems/ 17:52:55 is there something analogous for CCL? 17:56:13 adamvh: Just use Quicklisp, and let that store your systems for all impls. 17:56:49 adamvh: In CCL, just (load "http://beta.quicklisp.org/quicklisp.lisp") and follow the instructions. 17:56:57 I have a .asd that I wrote myself 17:57:07 Is there a way to handle this in Quicklisp? 17:57:16 (I have been using quicklisp for libraries) 17:58:08 adamvh: Ah, I just have an asdf-systems directory in the same dir I keep all my personal projects in and fill it with symlinks to my projects' .asd files, then I add /asdf-systems/ to asdf:*central-registry* 17:58:22 And again, I share that between all my CL impls. 17:59:01 I'm not much a fan of impl-specific stuff when I don't need it. 18:00:54 sellout: It's been necessary depressingly frequently for me (i.e. lisplab claims to only work on SBCL, objective-C bridge only works on CCL, etc.) 18:01:20 I kind of have to switch back and forth depending on whether I'm doing something numerical or GUI-y 18:01:30 adamvh: Oh, I agree  but those libs can still be stored in a non-specific dir, just can't load those systems. 18:01:49 Point taken. 18:01:51 *sellout* ends up fixing lots of libs to be more portable. 18:02:16 It would be nice to get the Obj-C bridge working on SBCL at least 18:02:41 adamvh: I even share the bulk of my init files  I have ~/.common-lisp-init.lisp that is loaded by .sbclrc, .ccl-init.lisp, etc. 18:02:52 Putting a cocoa interface in front of my number-crunching stuff would be nice 18:03:01 That's a good idea 18:03:27 I don't have many custom init file things though :p 18:03:34 perhaps I will accumulate more in the feature 18:03:38 *future 18:03:44 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.66.255] has quit [Quit: anRch] 18:06:50 -!- sellout [~greg@gw3.tacwap.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08:07 alms__ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 18:08:07 -!- alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:08 -!- alms__ is now known as alms_ 18:09:24 sellout: Does quicklisp already push its own dirs to asdf:*central-registry*? 18:14:44 -!- adamvh [~adamvh@adsl-99-103-186-186.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:03 -!- GeneralMaximus [~general@122.173.231.205] has quit [Quit: See you in another life.] 18:50:29 -!- alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms_] 18:51:09 sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 18:55:14 alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 18:57:40 -!- alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Client Quit] 19:17:21 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.241.19] has joined #ccl 19:23:39 adamvh: CCL uses ASDF2, so just put things in your ASDF2 default locations. 19:28:55 Xach [~xach@pdpc/supporter/professional/xach] has joined #ccl 19:32:17 Hi friends. If I rebuild clozure cl when Quicklisp is loaded, I get some asdf errors when things start up again. Is it better/best to rebuild ccl from a "clean" startup? 19:32:41 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/quicklisp/xJXEHwThAs4/discussion has some of the context 19:33:05 Xach: It's recommended that when you rebuild CCL, you start it with --no-init. 19:34:00 sellout: http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/UpdatingFromSource doesn't mention that recommendation. Should it? 19:35:30 *Xach* checks the manual 19:35:41 Xach: I think so  but I'll wait for rme or gbyers to back me up before I change it. 19:36:06 Ahh, I see where this tickled my brain before. 19:36:11 http://www.mail-archive.com/asdf-devel@common-lisp.net/msg01560.html 19:36:12 Ah, yeah, the manual mentions that. I'll fix the wiki. 19:40:01 jdz [~jdz@host8-107-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ccl 19:41:00 Thanks! 19:41:22 -!- Xach [~xach@pdpc/supporter/professional/xach] has left #ccl 20:26:20 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.241.19] has quit [Quit: anRch] 20:59:12 alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 21:29:24 -!- alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:51:09 alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 23:45:10 -!- milanj [~milanj_@109-93-104-132.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:47:12 -!- jdz [~jdz@host8-107-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]