00:02:03 -!- milanj [~milanj_@93-87-255-145.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:16:07 -!- billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:26:59 -!- leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:07:31 alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 03:17:03 -!- alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms_] 03:17:42 alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 03:20:00 -!- rme [rme@clozure-1F3CDCA9.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 03:20:00 -!- rme [~rme@pool-70-106-129-201.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 03:35:32 -!- alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: alms_] 03:45:46 alms_ [~alms_@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 04:01:13 unkanon [~unkanon@dyn-160-39-34-114.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #ccl 04:01:28 oh good! 04:01:32 there's a channel for CCL 04:01:48 I've just downloaded the .dmg and dumped it all in a folder 04:01:53 I can't run any of the examples! 04:01:58 I need some help 04:02:20 I goto examples/rubix and double click loader.lisp 04:02:28 then shift+command+E to execute 04:02:41 and : 04:02:41 > Error: value NIL is not of the expected type (OR STRING PATHNAME STREAM). 04:02:41 > While executing: PATHNAME-DIRECTORY, in process Listener(6). 04:05:46 What happens if you start the lisp and load the file from a listener prompt instead ? 04:07:34 loader.lisp finds the files that it loads relative to the pathname of the file being loaded. 04:17:36 well all the files are in the same folder 04:18:10 Yes. So how does loader.lisp refer to the other files ? 04:19:14 load-relative "other files" 04:19:37 http://paste.lisp.org/display/118136 04:19:57 relative to *LOAD-TRUENAME*. 04:20:46 oh should I replace that with the actual path? 04:21:28 No. You should LOAD the file, not open it in an editor buffer and expect that to bind *LOAD-TRUENAME*. 04:23:17 ok so I open Clozue CL64, go to File -> Load and pick loader.lisp 04:23:25 nothing happens, blank listener 04:24:02 Now, open the file in the editor; there's a commented-out form at the bottome of the file. Select that form and execute it. 04:25:18 lol that's really strange :) 04:25:27 I'd never guess that's how one should do it 04:25:46 Can you read lisp code ? 04:25:51 so do I do the same for all the other examples? (none of the others have a loader.lisp file) 04:25:56 I can read some scheme 04:26:00 I want to learn CL 04:26:32 why? were you going to point something out to me? 04:26:41 If you learn to read CL code, you won't have to guess. 04:26:52 yeah, I want to learn CL 04:27:04 Good luck! 04:27:06 -!- gbyers [~gb@c-68-35-35-22.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:27:22 thanks. and thanks for the help! if I get stuck again I'll let you know :P 05:12:23 gbyers [~gb@c-68-35-35-22.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 08:11:56 leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #ccl 11:07:53 -!- leo2007 [~leo@cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.2.91.1] 12:43:42 billstclair [~billstcla@unaffiliated/billstclair] has joined #ccl 13:15:31 rme [~rme@pool-70-106-129-201.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 14:29:28 unkanon_ [~unkanon@rrcs-69-193-217-130.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #ccl 14:30:25 so last night I compiled the currencyConverter example that came with CCL for mac. it compiled it into a nice .app but it was 100+MB in size. that's not right, is it? 14:56:46 unkanon_: That does seem abnormally large. 14:56:56 rme: yes, it does :) 14:57:14 step by step, here's what I did 14:58:00 File -> Load... then loaded the currencyconverter.lisp. then I probably used Open to open the selfsame file. then I clicked Compile 14:58:32 There was a report on the mailing list about a user seeing abnormally large images also, so maybe there's a bug somewhere. http://clozure.com/pipermail/openmcl-devel/2010-November/012302.html 15:01:04 hmm 15:05:00 milanj [~milanj_@79-101-251-67.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 15:15:07 rme: at 7pm EST I'll be at home and I'll try again. then if you're here I can tell you exactly what I'm doing 16:04:23 -!- sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: sellout] 16:21:04 sellout [~greg@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 16:59:53 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.67.0] has joined #ccl 17:23:51 oconnore [~eric@c-24-61-119-4.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 17:31:42 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.67.0] has quit [Quit: anRch] 17:38:35 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.67.0] has joined #ccl 18:05:07 -!- sellout [~greg@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: sellout] 18:09:06 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.67.0] has quit [Quit: anRch] 18:33:08 sellout [~greg@c-24-61-13-161.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 19:26:02 anRch [~markmilli@64.134.68.90] has joined #ccl 20:31:34 -!- unkanon_ [~unkanon@rrcs-69-193-217-130.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #ccl 20:41:55 -!- milanj [~milanj_@79-101-251-67.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:46:30 milanj [~milanj_@212-200-193-106.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 20:46:52 -!- anRch [~markmilli@64.134.68.90] has quit [Quit: anRch] 21:37:16 -!- milanj [~milanj_@212-200-193-106.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:12 wormphlegm [~wormphleg@c-98-234-185-107.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 23:31:39 -!- wormphlegm [~wormphleg@c-98-234-185-107.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]