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came with 1.5 i cannot fix myself: the 32bit kernel gives me SIGBUS when calling create_stack upon startup 19:25:17 no matter whether i use a 64bit or 32bit machine, the provided kernel or one built myself using arbitrary compiler and/or assembler options 19:25:18 1.6 will be out Any Day Now and works around that (it seems to be a bug in recent Linux kernels.) 19:25:25 aah nice! 19:26:48 The workaround is to remove MAP_GROWSDOWN from a call to mmap() in memory.c (there's only one such call.) 19:28:10 gyers: i'll just wait for 1.6 then :) but it's nice to know how to create a working 1.5 for my netbook now - ccl seems to be so much faster than sbcl 19:29:02 the other issue is that i need to patch away all stabs sections in the assembler code for x86_64 with each new release as the sh_size 0xfd80 vs. sh_entsize 0x14 is wrong 19:32:24 gbyers: shall i open a ticket for that? and, is there a reason to not use dwarf instead? 19:33:45 clop2 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The debugging info that we try to generate via .stabs/.stabd is pretty much just line number info (for which DWARF has always seemed like overkill.) I don't know for sure that that explict .stab info is really needed; we -may- get all we need just from .line directives and that sort of thing. If you could, please enter a ticket. 20:22:24 well i'm pretty much an elf newbie myself :) just acquired as much knowledge as necessary because i really want ccl in fedora. it feels good to know upstream is as cooperative as you seem to be btw, kudos 20:24:32 btw you can check the ongoing review process yourself, includes all the information on now and future problems before the first actual release: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=562226 20:25:19 there's also minor issues with the hardcoded locations of examples and contributed code (comments 12, 14) 20:48:17 gbyers: is it possible to add m4 conditionals for the stab information? that would save me from a lot of pain for future releases :) 21:34:54 -!- clop2 [~jared@99-23-192-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:38:36 rme [~rme@pool-70-106-138-18.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 21:41:45 kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-219-75.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ccl 21:45:51 clop2 [~jared@99-23-192-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 22:04:12 -!- kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-219-75.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 22:39:45 -!- |3b|` [foobar@cpe-72-179-19-4.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: b] 22:40:11 |3b|` [foobar@cpe-72-179-19-4.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ccl 22:44:29 -!- Adlai` is now known as Adlai 22:55:59 -!- clop2 [~jared@99-23-192-153.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:37:29 -!- Adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:39:54 -!- e-user [~e-user@port-87-234-24-237.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]