00:52:42 kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-215-95.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ccl 00:54:25 PuffTheMagic [~PuffTheMa@unaffiliated/puffthemagic] has joined #ccl 00:56:11 -!- kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-215-95.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:56:56 kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-215-95.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ccl 01:07:25 -!- kingless [~kingless@adsl-242-215-95.rmo.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:18:07 kingless [~kingless@166.137.14.198] has joined #ccl 01:24:52 -!- kingless [~kingless@166.137.14.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:19:50 does ccl have a parse-float 02:20:00 im trying to port some code i wrote in lw 02:20:07 and that is the last missing function 02:20:31 PuffTheMagic: I don't think so  just use FORMAT. 02:20:43 oh, nm 02:20:59 I mean, read-from-string 02:21:52 (and make sure *read-eval* is nil, of course) 02:40:55 bfulgham_ [~brent@adsl-69-234-103-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ccl 03:10:26 -!- bfulgham_ [~brent@adsl-69-234-103-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: bfulgham_] 03:26:27 sellout, that does not work 03:26:37 read-from-string that is 03:26:43 err 03:26:49 maube i didnt set read-eval 03:27:01 ;) 03:28:52 -!- rme [~rme@pool-70-105-87-127.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: rme] 03:33:27 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 03:39:16 sellout, even with *read-eval* nil its not working 04:02:48 (let ((*read-eval* nil)) (read-from-string "23.23")) 04:03:00 doesn't return 23.23 and 5? 06:48:53 roffe [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has joined #ccl 08:20:11 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:44:12 -!- roffe [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44:31 roffe [~roffe@vpn-client430.uio.no] has joined #ccl 08:48:21 roffe_ [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has joined #ccl 08:50:30 -!- roffe [~roffe@vpn-client430.uio.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50:30 -!- roffe_ is now known as roffe 09:28:08 jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has joined #ccl 11:44:34 gnooth [~test@ip98-176-79-151.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ccl 11:52:31 -!- roffe [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53:12 roffe [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has joined #ccl 12:18:54 -!- roffe [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:24 roffe [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has joined #ccl 13:20:31 jajcloz [~jaj@pool-108-7-68-199.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 14:16:08 tfb [~tfb@94.197.33.149.threembb.co.uk] has joined #ccl 14:28:54 milanj [~milanj_@93-86-213-224.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 15:07:46 -!- tfb [~tfb@94.197.33.149.threembb.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:08:40 tfb [~tfb@92.41.40.177.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has joined #ccl 15:58:27 -!- roffe [~roffe@adsl-149-197.romerikebb.no] has quit [Quit: roffe] 16:03:48 -!- jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:24:02 rme [~rme@pool-70-105-87-127.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 16:27:50 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 16:28:17 rangerpb [~baude@gentoo/developer/rangerpb] has joined #ccl 16:30:22 anyone tried cc1 on sles11? 16:30:33 i'm trying on sles 11 powerpc without much luck 16:31:09 ./ppccl 16:31:09 remap spjump: Invalid argument 16:32:41 -!- tfb [~tfb@92.41.40.177.sub.mbb.three.co.uk] has quit [Quit: tfb] 16:33:05 rangerpb: what does "sysctl vm.mmap_min_addr" say? 16:34:00 172_29_149_204:~ # sysctl vm.mmap_min_addr 16:34:00 vm.mmap_min_addr = 65536 16:34:05 change to 1024 right? 16:34:25 Well, 4096 should be fine. see http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/wiki/PlatformNotes 16:34:58 right, shame on me. I remember the note from last night 16:35:33 It's irritating that the linux distros give that parameter such a ridiculous value. 16:35:44 yeah, unfortunately same result with that change 16:36:01 Does it work as root? 16:36:23 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:36:32 nope 16:37:18 let me try the recommendation for 0 16:37:32 same 16:38:56 it does execute on rhel5 but i get glibc complaint 16:40:12 I assume you can get rid of the glibc complaint by rebuilding the lisp kernel. (cd ccl/lisp-kernel/linuxppc; make clean; make). 16:45:46 rme, i didnt know that. I did rebuild it and now I get the exact same error as sles11 16:45:47 [root@172_29_149_125 ~]# cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr 16:45:47 4096 16:47:19 well that's nice. 16:47:24 huh 16:49:01 i wonder about another error liek the mmap thing 16:49:06 looking at the strace 16:54:37 rme, strace ->http://paste.pocoo.org/show/271819/ anything jump out at you? 16:59:21 Well, it's not letting us map what we want at 0x5000. 16:59:39 rme, thinking that this is a 64k page system is the culprit... 17:00:18 That's probably it. We assume in numerous places that the page size is 4K. 17:00:31 That's probably a bug that we do that. 17:00:55 is it fairly intrusive? 17:04:07 I'm not sure how hard it would be to work on a system with non-4K pages. I'd have to think about it and talk to gbyers. 17:07:16 k 17:09:34 rangerpb, what machine is it? 17:09:50 ccl used to work on an old ppc mac of a friend's 17:09:53 POWER6 and POWER7 17:10:06 yeah, older distributions werent 64k page sizes 17:10:09 If the ppc port is going to stay alive, it's probably going to be because people are interested in running it on big machines; it's reasonable to expect that those machines might use a larger page size. 17:10:10 everything is now 17:10:19 yeah 17:10:21 agree 17:11:05 *Fare* remembers the time when 64KiB was his whole machine's memory, and it was considered a lot. 17:11:39 :) 17:12:09 so this whole thing started when a customer asked us about a Common-LISP on powerpc linux combination 17:12:39 so I started hunting, ccl seemed like a logical choice 17:13:05 and it worked fine on my Gentoo POWERPC Mac at home, so this confounded me at first on why when I tried on RHEL and SLES it didnt work 17:13:14 at least we have answered that part 17:20:22 http://trac.clozure.com/ccl/ticket/752 17:21:10 rangerpb: If you want to register on the trac and comment or cc yourself on that ticket, you'd be welcome to do that. 17:21:21 I use ccl on a G4 based powerbook loaded with ubuntu. 17:30:47 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 17:33:10 btw, just pushed asdf 2.009 - please update 17:42:01 The short-term fix to that is probably to map 64K at address 0, which means that you lose NULL pointer trapping and open yourself up to whatever kernel exploits they aren't really fixing. It'd be hard to know for sure how easy that'd be to fix without borrowing a POWER6 or POWER7 box, of course ... 17:45:57 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:03 gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ccl 17:46:24 At least some of the high end machines that use a large page size have MMUs that allow some sort of protection at smaller (4K) granularities. I don't remember the details. 17:46:59 -!- lnostdal [~quassel@167.80-203-136.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 17:48:46 lnostdal [~quassel@167.80-203-136.nextgentel.com] has joined #ccl 18:03:30 gbyers, i can arrange access if that's required 18:18:10 -!- milanj [~milanj_@93-86-213-224.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:23:08 milanj [~milanj_@109-93-201-18.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl 18:52:28 -!- gigamonkey [~user@adsl-99-58-28-211.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:46:36 -!- rangerpb [~baude@gentoo/developer/rangerpb] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:58:21 -!- jajcloz [~jaj@pool-108-7-68-199.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: jajcloz] 23:28:53 -!- milanj [~milanj_@109-93-201-18.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:33:09 milanj [~milanj_@77-46-219-167.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has joined #ccl