00:26:23 palter [n=palter@c-24-128-76-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 00:38:07 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 00:47:09 alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 00:53:41 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 01:03:56 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 01:06:20 alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 02:15:46 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 02:22:23 bfulgham_ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-114-78.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ccl 02:26:22 palter_ [n=palter@c-24-128-76-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 02:26:22 -!- palter [n=palter@c-24-128-76-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:26:27 -!- palter_ is now known as palter 02:32:20 -!- alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 02:38:21 alms [n=alms@146-115-42-237.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 02:43:52 quodlibetor [n=user@ool-4570c6ff.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ccl 02:46:37 hey there, I'm new to clozure, trying to load a couple of files into the slime repl, and they load succesfully (or at least without errors) but for some reason none of my defuns, defmethods, or defclasses know about any of the others 02:47:25 I'm just doing C-c C-l (and sometimes C-c C-k) from the source buffers, and it seems like it should work 02:47:34 Dumb question, but is the repl in a package where they're visible? 02:48:10 i'm obviously dumberer, because I don't know how to answer that question 02:48:15 i'm not defining any packages 02:49:37 if that helps 02:49:43 if you've defined a function named "foo", do (apropos "foo") at the repl. Does it show up? 02:50:42 no 02:51:02 but slime says that it compiled it fine 02:52:08 ;Compiling "/media/shared/school/09fall/ai/search-lisp-examples/basic search engine.lisp"... 02:52:08 ;Loading #P"/home/school/ai/search-lisp-examples/basic search engine.lx64fsl"...; 02:52:20 CL-USER> (apropos "problem") 02:52:20 ; No value 02:52:20 02:52:52 lisppaste5: url 02:52:53 To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/ccl and enter your paste. 02:53:35 could you paste the first several lines of your file there? 02:54:33 quodlbietor pasted "slimeweird" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/88192 02:55:01 oops, i just pasted what I just posted 02:55:43 sure, but just to warn you, there's nothing interesting in it, i mean, from a packaging standpoint, it starts with a bunch of defclasses 02:56:20 no in-package form? 02:56:56 quodlbietor annotated #88192 "untitled" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/88192#1 02:57:02 nope 02:57:09 nowhwere 02:57:31 the only lisps i'm used to are emacs- and a little bit of scheme 02:57:46 should I be in-package-ing? 02:59:08 It's good style. Anyway, I just saved your example in a file, did C-c C-k, and (apropos "problem") showed me some symbols from your code. 02:59:25 Does it work to compile individual forms with C-c C-c? 02:59:35 yes, perfectly 02:59:41 well, actually 03:00:06 oh, wait, yeah, it didn't, the individual forms are available if I C-c C-c them 03:00:48 I just have about 50 or 60 methods I'd have to do, and also I'd rather understand what's going on. 03:01:05 that second to last sentence didn't make sense: I meant to say: "yes" 03:01:21 You can always LOAD the file, e.g., with (load "/home/path/to/your/file.lisp"). 03:01:36 actually, that didn't work either 03:01:41 because i have two files 03:02:13 i think, each of them load fine individually, but they don't seem to know about each other from within slime 03:04:42 Are you using an up-to-date slime? Not from a Debian package or anything? 03:04:58 which.. hmph: if I just copy-and paste everything into one giant file, it's all fine, and everything runs. So, it's (probably) definitely multi-file thing 03:07:07 should I be using packages? 03:07:07 emacs 23.1, compiled myself 03:07:10 um, I don't know which slime is included with the standard distribution, though 03:08:39 I don't see how having stuff in multiple files should be a problem; but I don't know all the details of your set-up. The slime developers suggest running CVS slime: http://trac.clozure.com/openmcl/wiki/InstallingSlime 03:09:51 you're probably more interested in getting work done than fiddling with slime, but I'm virtually certain that you're not seeing a ccl problem, but some other issue. 03:10:08 yeah 03:10:11 that makes sense 03:10:51 well, actually at this point, I got my work finished by copy-and-pasting, and since it's just for school it doesn't have to work well, just run to completion 03:11:00 so, futzing around with slime sounds fun 03:12:09 heh, well, there you go then. people who know a lot more about slime than I do hang out on #lisp if you want to ask over there. 03:12:42 thanks 03:16:40 i'll check that out, read up some more on slime, and probably finish PCL some time soon as well. 03:17:15 -!- quodlibetor [n=user@ool-4570c6ff.dyn.optonline.net] has quit ["gotta go!"] 06:39:29 -!- rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [] 06:46:39 -!- bfulgham_ [n=brent@adsl-69-234-114-78.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [] 09:27:49 -!- mdc_mobile [n=mdc_mobi@ds9.entity.com] has quit [] 14:21:13 milanj [n=milan@93.86.215.194] has joined #ccl 14:35:09 anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx07812.woburma.wayport.net] has joined #ccl 15:01:03 -!- anRch [n=markmill@nmd.sbx07812.woburma.wayport.net] has quit [] 17:10:59 -!- gz` [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [] 17:34:01 rme [n=rme@pool-70-105-93-115.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 18:40:37 -!- sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 18:54:45 -!- Summermute [n=scott@c-68-34-67-216.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:03:57 sellout [n=greg@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #ccl 19:06:55 milanj- [n=milan@93.86.241.8] has joined #ccl 19:15:01 -!- milanj [n=milan@93.86.215.194] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:22:06 lispm [n=joswig@e177153198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ccl 20:10:24 anRch [n=markmill@12.147.116.254] has joined #ccl 20:37:19 -!- pem_ [n=pem@159.226.35.246] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:51:28 -!- sellout [n=greg@static-72-85-235-154.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 21:01:37 -!- anRch [n=markmill@12.147.116.254] has quit [] 21:09:44 sellout [n=greg@c-24-128-50-176.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ccl 22:24:37 -!- palter [n=palter@c-24-128-76-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 22:34:09 gz [n=gz@209-6-18-72.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ccl 22:58:28 -!- lispm [n=joswig@e177153198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 23:17:22 -!- milanj- [n=milan@93.86.241.8] has quit ["Leaving"]